[anewtypedude]

I am about to give up the elderly model from Day Bang simply because it isn't giving me bangs. . A problem is that nowhere in this model was actual attraction being built. Don't get me wrong, I have been getting few dozen numbers (I have close to 100% number close rate) from this model but those numbers don't ever go anywhere. It probably has something to do with my chosen targets. I am at a very heavily Asian populated place and the idea of hanging out one on one or grabbing a drink with a cool stranger is likely unheard of. I always feel like somewhere in my rambling I am getting friendzoned because I am spending too much time talking about her stupid gadget and not enough time actually building attraction.

I don't know about you, but I would rather getting blown out on the spot than wasting my time with numbers that go nowhere. Looks like it's back to going direct for me. Anyone actually bang a girl from going elderly?

[memcpy]

I don't know, I follow the day bang model here in Japan and it's gotten me several dates, numbers, insta-dates.

[soup]

Calibration

Don't get stressed. Try some shit out. Think of it as a science experiment, and report back to us and add to the wealth of game knowledge.

[anewtypedude]

I don't know man. I have gotten much better response by simply going direct. I am a pretty good looking guy (have done some modeling) and young looking, and I think I am killing her attraction by talking about her boring labtop. Maybe some guys just don't have the vibe to go elderly. I've gotten them to ask me many many personal questions and become super enthusiastic. But when I call or text, the response was universally that they didn't realize that's where this is headed. Keep in mind I am in a place where girls probably have never gone on a date with someone they've just met, and most of their dates come from knowing someone for a long long time, and creeped out by the concept of "going for a drink". Also, I believe the problem with this approach is that the intention of the interaction was never clear to the girl, and when it comes time to ask her out, she is simply not ready to make the mental leap from chatting casually in public to an one on one date.
Not trying to be a prick, but I am always with the belief that going indirect like the elderly works better for average looking Joes while good looking fellas should always go direct as to be congruent with girls' expectations.

[RawGod]

It's all about subcommunication. When you are feeling sexual and dominant, it will come through. You will look intensely at her eyes, with a slight smirk. But this comes from within, don't try to fake it. If you lift weights, you might find yourself walking down the street thinking about males "I will fuck you up" and women "I will fuck you" when you're jacked on natural testosterone. With this sort of attitude, you have to dial it down when you actually interact with people, but subconsciously people will pick up on your vibe and you will never be friendzoned. Since you're a good-looking dude, you might have to be careful to dial it down even more. You should be like a tiger being gentle so as not to scare the bunny rabbit.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Quote:

(I have close to 100% number close rate)

Fuck. I have to give it a try.

[Roosh]

If direct gets you better results, then go with that. Game is not one size fits all. You have to try different things to see what works.

[I'mWaitingForTheMan]

(08-14-2012 05:41 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

It's all about subcommunication. When you are feeling sexual and dominant, it will come through. You will look intensely at her eyes, with a slight smirk. But this comes from within, don't try to fake it. If you lift weights, you might find yourself walking down the street thinking about males "I will fuck you up" and women "I will fuck you" when you're jacked on natural testosterone. With this sort of attitude, you have to dial it down when you actually interact with people, but subconsciously people will pick up on your vibe and you will never be friendzoned. Since you're a good-looking dude, you might have to be careful to dial it down even more. You should be like a tiger being gentle so as not to scare the bunny rabbit.

I have to agree with this. When I stroll down the street, I always try to keep a predatory mindset. Keep thinking you are the boss, and then inject a little playful smirk when it does come time to interact. This does cut out attempted friend zoning.

[Gmac]

Numbers are just a gateway. You may need to work on your date game, attraction building, and escalation. You only get that with practice, by going out on those dates. Day game isn't going to transition into a bang on its own, it's all about the date once you get that number.

[Giovonny]

(08-14-2012 02:50 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

I am about to give up the elderly model from Day Bang simply because it isn't giving me bangs. . A problem is that nowhere in this model was actual attraction being built. Don't get me wrong, I have been getting few dozen numbers (I have close to 100% number close rate) from this model but those numbers don't ever go anywhere. It probably has something to do with my chosen targets. I am at a very heavily Asian populated place and the idea of hanging out one on one or grabbing a drink with a cool stranger is likely unheard of. I always feel like somewhere in my rambling I am getting friendzoned because I am spending too much time talking about her stupid gadget and not enough time actually building attraction.

I don't know about you, but I would rather getting blown out on the spot than wasting my time with numbers that go nowhere. Looks like it's back to going direct for me. Anyone actually bang a girl from going elderly?

I feel you. Time to start going direct! The answer for you is probably somewhere in the middle. Sometimes you open indirectly but the quickly turn to more direct communication. Sometimes, you open directly but then quickly switch to a more indirect topic. Its a social art form. Keep practicing and experimenting with different styles. After 1000 approaches or so, you will have learned the best style for you.

If you are getting alot of numbers but they are all flaking then you are not making a strong enough impression during the pick up. They have to feel you!!! Go more direct, be more bold! You have nothing to lose at this point. And, everything to gain.