[speakeasy]

(08-12-2012 04:47 PM)houston Wrote:  

Does anyone think any movies accurately portray the future (from what you've read and guess it will be like)?

I'm kind of glad I'm alive during the last wave of real happiness. I don't like to much crazy technology. Even cell phones get to me since so much info can be acquired with your number.

Every time you see the future portrayed in movies it's always this dystopian world like Blade Runner, Avatar or Madmax.

I actually think the future will be awesome. I think people will work less, travel more, have more lifestyle options, more diseases will be curable, advances in understanding the human genome will allow us to live longer, we'll be able to take vacations to mars or a hotel at the bottom of the ocean. In my opinion there will be fewer wars and conflicts, many of the poor countries now will be better developed,causing population growth to stabilize. More nations will be democratic. You will have fewer people that are violently religious as the world becomes more secularized.

My main worry though is energy and resources. If we can get past that hurdle I think we'll be set. I also worry that women everywhere will basically turn into men with Skrillex haircuts. Overall though I look forward to the future.

[polymath]

Robots are going to be huge in the next thirty years. You won't be able to walk a mile without seeing one perform a once-human task.

(08-11-2012 03:30 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yup, 3d printing will be a major disruptor.

What the internet did to music/movies and eventually books, 3d printing will do the same to physical products. Download schematics and print.

I'm looking forward to the day that 3D printers become affordable for household ownership.

The biggest remaining hurdle, in my eyes, is that of material properties. You can sinter a metal part on a 3D printer, precisely dimensioned, but it won't have the same properties as a piece that was milled out of, say, 4046 aluminum alloy, so you can't always use it for the same application.

[Excelsior]

(08-12-2012 07:26 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

You will have fewer people that are violently religious as the world becomes more secularized.

...assuming that those remaining religious folk do not simply outbreed everyone else.

[Aliblahba]

In the nearer future I see a greater demand for analog technology to rise.

[Screwston]

Curious if theres anyone out there working on technology that lets humans live a lot longer. Living for a few hundred years...

[Therapsid]

(10-20-2013 01:15 AM)houston Wrote:  

Curious if theres anyone out there working on technology that lets humans live a lot longer. Living for a few hundred years...

Yes.

Check out SENS - strategies for engineered negligible senescence.

http://www.sens.org/

They're the major organization out there, either profit or non-profit, working to significantly extend human lifespan.

Paypal founder Peter Thiel has invested heavily into SENS. Their leader and spokeman is the gerontologist Aubrey de Grey:

[soup]

[Hades]

My guess is that the ever-growing sperg population will throw a lot of money at chemicals and products designed to combat terrible loneliness, agoraphobia, and latent sexual frustration.

Weird ass pheromone sprays, jackets that make you feel like you're being hugged, sex bots, strong immersive interactive environments with absolutely none of the risk of real life (sort of like the computer system on The Gamer - pretty gay in other words), ultra porn, computer/neuro interfaces designed to find neurological 'flaws' and monitor them, massive quantities of drugs. Like most things you can get the trappings of human interaction but with greater tolerance to robotic lameness even these "improvements" will inevitably feel hollow. The norm will be a risk-averse crippling depression.

Men are nature's guinea pigs and will inevitably be affected worse (and require greater adaption to) the future.
I agree that it was better in the 90s.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(08-12-2012 04:47 PM)houston Wrote:  

Does anyone think any movies accurately portray the future (from what you've read and guess it will be like)?

I'm kind of glad I'm alive during the last wave of real happiness. I don't like to much crazy technology. Even cell phones get to me since so much info can be acquired with your number.

houston, do you still feel that way? What makes you think we're living during the last wave of real happiness?

[Vaun]

Went to Maker Faire recently. Everyone had a 3D printer, they are only $1000 bucks and pretty cool and I think you will see them everywhere in the next 5 years.

Wearable technology, computing in your clothes, shoes, glasses, food, tools, cars, basically everything we use as humans will be computerized in some way giving some feedback. This is only getting started.

Wireless charging. Wireless device charging(phones, computers, tablets) this tech has been out for a long time, but its really going to ramp up soon.

Drones - the use of drones in any and all ways. Drone college degrees, drone driver jobs, drone manufacturing and design.

[Screwston]

I dont even know Lizard. I do think you have to put your phone away while doing something to be truly happy. A lot of people cant even do that. So many people are just mad at the world right now.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

I think that with the arrival of Google Glass, the world will change. I've heard a lot of DOA opinions, but I think that the system will be polished off in a relatively timely manner and it will make us even more dependent on the internet and technology. Some benefits will be great though. Surgeons and trauma personnel can have a wealth of resources in front of them during surgery, police and military will have resources to make their jobs safer, students will be able to overlay information in class, etc.

I'm guessing that clean energy will also move forward at a quicker pace than it currently does. Tesla (car company) has revolutionized the EV market, and I'm pretty sure that we'll all have some sort of electric car in the future. Solar energy is becoming cheaper and cheaper, and I would like more homes to have it.

[Nemencine]

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[j r]

(08-12-2012 04:47 PM)houston Wrote:  

Does anyone think any movies accurately portray the future (from what you've read and guess it will be like)?

Most movies don't even accurately portray the present. Movies are made by people who tend to live in a bubble.

[Quintus Curtius]

The advances that come in the next ten thousand years of history would shock all of us. Terraforming of planets in the solar system, quantum teleportation, the branching off of humanity into different species, the whole works. I read a mind-blowing book a few years back called "The Next Ten Thousand Years" (Adrian Berry) that said: even if the worst happens (e.g., nuclear war or a civilizational collapse), mankind will eventually recover and go on to greater and greater advancement.

Mankind has come close to extinction in the past, and will so in the future. After the Toba eruption about 75000 years ago, humanity was reduced to probably just few thousand people.
Who knows? This stuff is impossible to say with certainty. But I do think that it's easy to lose perspective and not think in terms of millenia...

The book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-next-ten-thous...0841503028

[j r]

(10-20-2013 07:46 PM)Nemencine Wrote:  

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Would that lessen the overall life of the battery? I always thought that constantly charging and draining the battery halfway makes it harder to hold a full charge. Or is that just a myth?

[Cattle Rustler]

(10-20-2013 09:12 PM)j r Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 07:46 PM)Nemencine Wrote:  

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Would that lessen the overall life of the battery? I always thought that constantly charging and draining the battery halfway makes it harder to hold a full charge. Or is that just a myth?

It's true, it happened to my cellphone and loaned macbook. After a yaer or so the charge was not as good.

[Nemencine]

@ JR @ CATTLERUSTLER.

I imagine it will be like a hybrid car, except this is a 4g cellphone that uses sunlight. like a hybrid green technology. and the nickel/lithium battery could be split into two, "a" and "b".

when the power from "a" has been drained the phone will switch to "b"...at the same time, the photovoltaic cells from the touchscreen will start using sunlight to recharge "a" as the phone uses the power from "b". vice versa. rotating as needed.

It was just a brainstorm on the spot idea that i had from reading puckman's post. It is not something that i have sat down and worked through.

i can imagine it being useful for people stuck in a place without electricity.

it can also be market as green tech. especially, if you can make a phone-skin that can perform that photovoltaic charging function. that way, people can buy and use it with their present phone.

just brain storming.

[Nemencine]

@QUINTUS CURTIS

I used to read sci fi. i especially like sci fi from decades ago. It is funny how their projection of the future(our present age) is completely different from what eventually materializes today. I enjoy reading and seeing what they get wrong and right... what is their thought process like.... From h.g. wells to arthur c clarke to a.e. van vogt. or isaac asimov, etc...

Which leads me to the obvious conclusion that all that teleportation, planetary terraforming, etc are merely extrapolation of current science and technology, obviously. Just like sci fi of yesteryears are merely extrapolation of science and technology of that time... new breakthroughs will lead to unexpected path. What we imagine will happen will hardly happen(only some will). The technological future will be radically different. It has always been, it will always be.

I remember reading how people used to see the world(scientists included) until blackbody radiation breakthrough happen with Planck's equation; leading to the dawn of quantum age that radically changed everything. In fact, there was a time that the US patent office was recommended to be shutdown because there is not a new invention that could be invented.

that was how limited their views were. How limited is our present views today?

That is why all the doom and gloom about feminism, etc may (a) not materializes (b) materializes in such ways that nobody expected or anticipated. Due to the changes future science and technology will impact society. Immediate future is easier to predict. A few standard deviations farther, in my humble opinion, all bets are off. It is anybody's guess.

Technological breakthroughs has a way of making total fools of social science predictors.

Which leads to two things.

Firstly, my issue with historical analyses by historians... based on some of the things i have read, i think it will really help if historians are strongly familiar with science and technology to see the significant role that science/technology play in pivotal historical development. In fact, i am willing to postulate, that you cannot have major historical shift without (a)technological development to make that historical shift happen (b) politician and political consciousness/zeitgeist to push that historical shift.

Historians tend to focus on "b" while ignoring "a". Generally, you read stuff that basically says "Julius ceasar did or that" or "napoleon did this or that" or "ghenghis khan did this or that". Few historians are familiar with science and technological enough to really grasp the role that without technological breakthroughs, Julius ceasar or ghenghis khan or napoleon may very well had become nobody. I cannot blame them. They are historians, not scientists. I am of the conviction that these historical leaders/politicians wont be able to do what they did without technological breakthroughs laying the foundation. I think major historical changes has a twin leg: first,the technological breakthroughs that lay the foundation; secondly, the leader that recognizes an opportunity and is able to exploit that technological changes to their benefit. Even Obama wont be able to become the president of america in 2008 without social media.(i think howard dean was the trial run with social media).

anyways, that is my hypothesis.

So, what is the technological changes of the future going to be like? Only heaven knows. How is it going to affect society? that is even more unpredictable--it all depends on the technological breakthroughs and the kind of political leader that materializes.

The near future is easier to predict with google glasses and stuff. Even that, dont be surprised if something came out of the left field and render that obsolete overnight. Like what? Genetic engineering.

Which leads to my second point:
the Chinese tampering with human genetics could cause two things: inadvertently unleash a devastating genetic plague on humanity or (b)inadvertently results in a genetic superbrain human. It only take one such superhuman intelligence to render all our current science and technology obsolete overnight. The seismic shift will be insane. There is no way we can control such a superbeing. it will be like a bunch of monkeys thinking they are soo intelligent and are capable of raising and controlling a leonardo da vinci. Not a snowball's chance in hell.

Most of the technological extrapolations that i have seen are based on what current humans are doing... not on what super-humans will do. What will a superbrain human do? We cannot imagine it. It will be like a monkey trying to imagine what a human will do. We wont even understand him. The day a superbrain human is born is the day the earth stops. There is no way we can imagine what s/he will be capable of inventing or doing, scientifically or politically or socially. On that day, we as a species are obsolete.

And that, my friends, is a scary thought.

I am not sure the future is all roses and rainbow and beautiful humming birds.

[Vaun]

(10-21-2013 01:00 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 09:12 PM)j r Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 07:46 PM)Nemencine Wrote:  

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Would that lessen the overall life of the battery? I always thought that constantly charging and draining the battery halfway makes it harder to hold a full charge. Or is that just a myth?

It's true, it happened to my cellphone and loaned macbook. After a yaer or so the charge was not as good.

yeah, that is true and if you are constantly charging you will cook your battery, and kill its charging life prematurely. They say charge it 100% then take it off the charger, and drain it all the way down past 10%. I work with mine always plugged in but I am now more conscious of taking it off the charger(since it comes out of my wallet..)

Not sure how the wireless works. From what I have seen its a charging pad you set the device on.

[pheonix500000]

(10-20-2013 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

The advances that come in the next ten thousand years of history would shock all of us. Terraforming of planets in the solar system, quantum teleportation, the branching off of humanity into different species, the whole works. I read a mind-blowing book a few years back called "The Next Ten Thousand Years" (Adrian Berry) that said: even if the worst happens (e.g., nuclear war or a civilizational collapse), mankind will eventually recover and go on to greater and greater advancement.

Mankind has come close to extinction in the past, and will so in the future. After the Toba eruption about 75000 years ago, humanity was reduced to probably just few thousand people.
Who knows? This stuff is impossible to say with certainty. But I do think that it's easy to lose perspective and not think in terms of millenia...

The book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-next-ten-thous...0841503028

yup i watched a documentary on it, they said the entire human population after could have fit into a baseball stadium. It just goes to show how powerful fucking is.

[Maciano]

Anti-aging research will really take off.

It's possible in nature, reptiles like crocodiles simply don't age; they just get older & bigger. Eventually they die of disease, a predator or an injury -- but they don't die. The secret is in their DNA.

There are people who also become way older than others, their DNA should be studied as well. This will probably lead to direct clues why some people tend to 'age' less.

And, then there are chronic diseases which we, at the moment, can't cure, like cancer, heart disease, dementia, etc. If these disease can be overcome masses of people will get a lot older & many of aging's disadvantages will simply no longer occur. At 80 you could be as healthy as 40 or 50 or even much younger.

Anti-aging is an absolute must to explore and conquer. Just imagine what this could mean for world progress and happiness.

[nek]

(10-13-2014 03:06 PM)Maciano Wrote:  

Anti-aging is an absolute must to explore and conquer. Just imagine what this could mean for world progress and happiness.

I'm all for this as long as they can keep the brain from deteriorating as well.