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#26

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China - Sanya, Hainan. Hainan is an island all the way in the south of China that is popular in China and becoming well known to European and Russian tourists.
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#27

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If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

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#28

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Quote: (01-12-2010 11:29 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

Really? What about other groups? I'd don't know that much about Poland, so if you can elaborate it would be most appreciated.
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#29

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I'm Canadian...I know its not on the top of most people's lists....but as far as second tier cities go. I'd recommend:

London, Ontario - probably the best looking girls in Canada....best college town in Canada (but does not compare to the best college party towns in the US...just being objective)....young, fresh, well taken care of, fun girls ready to party

Banff/Whistler - highest STD rates in Canada...I know that s not a good thing, but it's because the girls at these ski resorts are fucking like rabbits....snowboarding/ski girls are typically very attractive with great attitudes as well.

Kelowna - the epicenter of BC weed....if that s your thing....very hot girls....go in the summer, rent a houseboat...at night 10-20 boats tie on to each other and the party begins hopping from one boat to another...beautiful turquiose lake for wakeboarding

Overall, Canadian girls are not the best looking in the world, but there are still a good number of good looking girls here.

Best feature of Canadian girls - good/great attitudes (unless you are in Toronto....then its horrible at a world class level) and open to all groups, generally speaking. Growing up here, I have to say, I ve had the privilege of dating beautiful girls of all backgrounds, and rarely had any race issues.
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#30

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Quote: (01-12-2010 07:05 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2010 11:29 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

Really? What about other groups? I'd don't know that much about Poland, so if you can elaborate it would be most appreciated.

Well, I never been there actually, but my cousin lived there 3 months or so playing soccer (the girls didn't know them from TV, because they were juniors league - under 21) and the girls were dropping in his lap. One of them wanted to come here to visit him, but in the time he was commited.
I had a similar experience here in Brazil when I met a group of Polish journalists and pilots, they are very easy going and looked me like I was "exotic" and didn't look to anyone else in group (there were more 5 girls, but all white.)
My coworkers said to me that they would sent me in a pac to Polland to them... hahaha

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#31

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Quote: (01-12-2010 01:29 AM)PartyTime Wrote:  

Quote: (01-11-2010 05:10 AM)nomis69 Wrote:  

Hey all newb here,

I have been told University towns >> Krakow - Poland and Heidelberg - Germany are both great.

Yeah, Krokow is definately a university town, but I dont know much else about it. Polish girls are hot. If anyone has been there please report.

I'm in Krakow now. I don't know if I'd classify it as a second-tier city as Warsaw is supposed to be a shithole. I'm headed there on Saturday, so I'll get a better picture then.
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#32

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Quote: (01-12-2010 11:29 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

I do remember visiting Krakow in the mid nineties and having a lot of success there (plus I'm French, which is very appreciated in Poland, and I had dreadlocks at the time, and for many it was probably the first time they saw any.) Hot girls were stopping me in the street to ask me to take a picture with them etc. Unfortunately I was a bit young and the conditions were not right (It was a "school" trip, and we didn't have that much free time) so I did not take full advantage of the situation.

And Krakow is definitely a lovely city with lots of things to see and friendly inhabitants.
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#33

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Quote: (01-12-2010 11:29 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

Utter bullshit. Black guys have a niche market in any Eastern European country but you better be ready to get a lot of racist flack as well -- ESPECIALLY in a Catholic, conservative, Slavic country like Poland.
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#34

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Quote: (01-13-2010 11:09 AM)kindredspirit Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2010 11:29 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

Utter bullshit. Black guys have a niche market in any Eastern European country but you better be ready to get a lot of racist flack as well -- ESPECIALLY in a Catholic, conservative, Slavic country like Poland.

Yes. Though I ve never been there. I was highly dubious of the comment. Just not in line with most of the feedback from EE.
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#35

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Quote: (01-13-2010 11:16 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

Quote: (01-13-2010 11:09 AM)kindredspirit Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2010 11:29 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

Utter bullshit. Black guys have a niche market in any Eastern European country but you better be ready to get a lot of racist flack as well -- ESPECIALLY in a Catholic, conservative, Slavic country like Poland.

Yes. Though I ve never been there. I was highly dubious of the comment. Just not in line with most of the feedback from EE.

I think there's supposed to be a lot of skinheads too. I figure though if you're a black dude there, just go to a hiphop club and you'll probably find your niche. Look at this video at 4:50 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzpugp9_IWg

These Africans dudes in Moscow are cleaning house at the hiphop clubs. I think if you stick with that nitch, you can get plenty of ass, but the second you walk out the club, you better watch your back. Even though Russia sounds like the worst as far as that goes, it sounds like there's elements of that all over eastern Europe.

As a black guy though, my opinion is why even bother. There's hot girls all over the planet without having to put up with the neo-nazi shit. Go to a more friendly country.
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#36

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Krakow is beautiful, almost as stunning as Prague but almost as touristy as well. Warsaw in comparison is ugly apart from the old town, but strangely was much cheaper than Krakow, probably because they get far, far less tourists. Polish girls are on a par with Argentines in terms of looks. They are absolutely stunning, even by eastern European standards. However, i also saw more hot girls in Warsaw than Krakow, but maybe that's because the sheer number of plain tourists dilutes the pool of hot Poles. Strangely, despite the amazing female genetics, most Polish guys look like they've been hit in the face with a shovel. I've never seen so many stunning girls with ugly men as in Poland. Nightlife is incredible in Krakow, but slowly becoming more and more expensive. Apparantly they have more bars and clubs per head of population than any other city in Europe, and I can belive it.

Poles can be very friendly, but they have a reserved demeanour, quite typical in Slavic countries. They're not obviously friendly like Brazilians for example. Generally speaking, younger Poles are friendlier than older ones in my experience.

As for racism, I met a cool Nigerian guy who lived in Krakow and he said he had never had much trouble, although maybe he was lucky. I went out one night with him and his friends - another Nigerian, a Ghanain and a Jamaican - I felt like i was in fucking D12 or something! They more or less cleared up at the club. 3 out of 4 ended up with good-looking Polish girls that night, whilst the other had a white Polish girlfriend. Black guys might have some BS to put up with there, but I agree, there definitely is a niche for a black guy with game in somewhere like Poland.
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#37

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alchemist,

Great report. Poland sounds dope.

"Apparantly they have more bars and clubs per head of population than any other city in Europe, and I can belive it."

I have heard the same about Barcelona, but either way, your point is not lost on me.
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#38

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I'ven never been there, but met a bunch of polish, girls and guys. They might be shy until they get drunk the first time with you, after that, they are really honest, good people to have as friends and their women are extremely beautiful, specially their faces.

The guys are ugly, there is no denying that, so that plays to our advantage.
Talking about blacks in white countries: well, I met a cool guy from Nigeria, in Luzern and we used to hang out from time to time, even if he is married to a swiss woman, he is always flirting with direct game when we go out alone with other guys (canadians, germans) I don't know if only by curiosity or the BBC myth, but we were once having dinner at a Movenpick and he went to the bathroom, he took a long time, so i got curious, went downstairs, and there he was getting phone numbers from 2 girls who were coming out of the women's toilet, really quick and a couple days later, we went out with those girls and he banged one of them.

Blacks have it difficult mainly with other skin coloured men, but with women, if they look clean, they can really pick up many girls.
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#39

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Quote: (01-09-2010 09:17 PM)PartyTime Wrote:  

Quote: (01-06-2010 09:11 AM)armanid27 Wrote:  

I was in the capital, Brasilia, and I got laid 8x in 3 weeks by local girls

Damn! Those are some amazing numbers! 8 times or 8 different girls?

Are the girls there equally beautiful as other parts of Brazil ?

8 different girls my friend!!! Unlike their southern counterparts in Saoi Paolo, Rio or Curitiba - Girls in Brasilia are EXTREMELY down to earth, and welcome anyone that is different - with open arms (and legs).

Girls are as beautiful, if not more than Rio! Yes...I dare say it! They are!

Your Portuguese BETTER be really good. I am not talking basic here - NOBODY speaks English - NOBODY!!! You will have to game girls in Portuguese - no exceptions! Bieng gringo helps, but it will be challenging to say "your place, or mine" and she wil udnerstand you without being completely direct, and just making out with her on teh spot!
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#40

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And here I am in Rio working my ass off.

Where did you lodge in Brasilia? Easy to find a room to rent?
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#41

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Quote: (01-14-2010 07:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

And here I am in Rio working my ass off.

Where did you lodge in Brasilia? Easy to find a room to rent?

I never go to Rio/Sao Paolo/Cutitiba - it's a waste of time for me, too much bullshit and Patricinhas with huge egos to deal with!

My top cities to get laid in Brazil are:

Brasilia, Cuiaba in Matto Grosso, and the beach city of Belem!

Brasilia is very weird in the way it's set up. Here is the lo'-down:

1. The ariport is 1hr away from the actual city, kind of like when you land in Medellin, it takes you 1hr to get to actually Medellin from Rio Negro by Taxi - be ready for this!

2. All street are like alphabet city - Avenue A, B, C etc all the way to Z - its easy, but weird at first.


3. I LOVE the weather! It never gets above 65F or below 55F in Brasilia with 0 humidity!!! Think San Diego here guys!

4. It's about a 2hr flight from RIO/Sao Paulo to Brasilia!

5. There is absolutely NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING touristy to do! No beaches, no fancy fashon district with cafes - nothing! Brasilia is actually a boring city! Which is why women are open to sex so easily - there is nothing else exciting to do!

6. The best attraction in Brasilia is like the equivalent of you hanging out at Target all day long in any US city - cute girls around to game of course, but consider this the highlight of your non-sex tasks.

7. Women are easssssyyyyy! Just play the dumb(but very trendy) business traveler from USA, and in need of assistance, and you are halfway to her panties already!!!

*** TIP! Always say you are there for a job interview at Banco Do Brasil (their major employer), and that you are considering moving there! You say this, and you will be banging in the next 6 hours or less!!! Ask her to help you go apartment hunting!!! They love this! And, it gives you a reason fo "being" there in Brasilia. The most desirable job to have in Brasilia, is either with the local city hall, or gov't office, or Banco Do Brasil. They will eventually want you to help them get a job there. Just go with the flo, but be as honest as possible, and do not work their hopes up too much. Always say, you are very new, and will try your best to help her succeed - without making any concrete guarantees. They are very nice girls, and it breaks my heart to lie to them in hopes of getting laid - it's not really necessary.

-- Where to stay.

Remember I said weird? Well, all hotels are in a pocket of the city, where the only thing that is there are hotels! I did not rent a room, because I was on a company business trip for 6 months total, and my expenses were covered, but pick up the daily newspaper, and you should find some good deals!

Google hotels Brasilia on google.com.br - and just pick a place that suits your budget, until you can find a suitable room to your liking once you are atcually there.

Hotels are usually cheap, at about 65USD bucks per night. I'm sure you can find cheaper places, but I did not look since my expenses were covered.

I can sit there and write more, but my best advice - GO NOW!
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#42

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Quote: (01-12-2010 07:05 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2010 11:29 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

If you are Afro-american, go to Poland. They are crazy about black people.

Really? What about other groups? I'd don't know that much about Poland, so if you can elaborate it would be most appreciated.

What about Latinos or Spaniards with Black Hair/Black eyes and Tan skin? see any of those around getting positive female attention?
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#43

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Great info. Do you have any recommended bars/clubs/daytime spots?

Before I leave Brazil I want to check out Belo Horizonte and at least one other city. Brasilia is looking good.
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#44

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Quote: (01-15-2010 12:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Great info. Do you have any recommended bars/clubs/daytime spots?

Before I leave Brazil I want to check out Belo Horizonte and at least one other city. Brasilia is looking good.

I got the Lo-down on Belo Horizonte for you guys too. i'll post that seperately.

When you go to Brasilia - you MUST change your state of mind - in other words, you must switch from beach tourist to power politician/businessman. Again, think D.C. with better looking women, and friendlier people.


** TIP - wear a power suit! I'm serious about this! if you are going to say you are there on business or job interview with Banco do Brasilia (which you should, nobody goes to brasilia for tourism, there isn't anything to do!")

Look the part - guys! You do not wear shorts and a hawaiian shirt to work or business meetings - unless you work fo MSFT in Seattle, but this is Brasilia!

Dressing business casual is nice, but wearing a power suit is a surefire way to get laid - FAST! Almost 95% of men I saw accompanied by a beuatiful woman, was wearing a suit as if to have a good job. This is important, I cannot emphasize how important this is for Brasilia pick-up game. A suit in Brasilia advertises to potential women you intend to lay that you are someone who is worth meeting, and eventually banging!

There are two major "Prime Time" slots for picking up women in Brasilia.

1. Lunch-hour! head down to the city-hall/downtown areas with busy shopping malls and you will find all you incredibly HOT secretaries just waiting for you to say:

"oi, disculpa ti incomodar, tudo bem?"
she replies "oi, imagina tudo bem y voce?"
" que legal! gatinha, seria que voce podia mi presintiar con sua compahia para almorcar? Sou americano, mais nao tenho ninguen con quem falar um poquinho da vida aqui no brasil - voce ta con fomi?"

- she smiles "claro" - Lights, camera, action - It's on!

This is a good time to pick her brain, and find out what Chopp she is going to after work - invite yourself to tag along, and expand your social circle!

*** If you do not understand what I just said above without using google translate, you are not ready for Brasilia game!

Prime time slot 2 - Quitting time it's happy hour!

After work - happy hours are King in Brasilia - everyone meets up to head down to their favorite Chopp (brewery) for beer, and laughs!

** No particular chopp (pub) is better than the other - just find one that looks happening, and weasel your way in - pretend you are there with other co-workers, and you are waiting for them - I usually was. They can be found anywhere, but just grab a taxi, and tell him you want him to take you to the most active PUB(called Chopp) of that particular they - they know, and are very firendly to help you fnd one!



Give this one a try - it was usually packed on fridays:

http://www.nossochopp.com.br/?gclid=CIeO...swoduWGU1Q


WEAR A SUIT!!!! LOOK LIKE YOU JUST GOT OFF WORK!!!!! NOT OFF THE STREET!!!! all men wear suits, and needless to say, I never saw any of them leave alone!

Got questions? I got answers - fire away!
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#45

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@armanid - I never go to Rio/Sao Paolo/Cutitiba - it's a waste of time for me, too much bullshit and Patricinhas with huge egos to deal with!

Where were you been in SP? My town is huge and the night scene even bigger! Vila Olimpia district always let as worse impression as possible from here.
If come the next time, let me know and I will show you another SP. I promisse!

Deixa que essa fase é passageira, amanhã será melhor você vai ver a cidade inteira seu samba saber de cor!
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#46

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Quote: (01-16-2010 10:42 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

@armanid - I never go to Rio/Sao Paolo/Cutitiba - it's a waste of time for me, too much bullshit and Patricinhas with huge egos to deal with!

Where were you been in SP? My town is huge and the night scene even bigger! Vila Olimpia district always let as worse impression as possible from here.
If come the next time, let me know and I will show you another SP. I promisse!

I was actually all over Sampa - from Jardims area (where I stayed at The Unique Hotel) to Hunting girls at Higienapolis mall, to clubbing at Villa Olimpia - I was everywhere! Sao Paolo is huge, but I think I covered every major area that opening girls was possible. Sure, I met some friendly ones, but it was extremely difficult scheduling them to do anything so we can close short of taking them dancing and spending a ton of money on them like a dumb foreigner would do!


The hotel Unique I stayed at was incredible! Hotel - and even then, saying I was staying there was a challenge closing - even more so, with snobby Paulistanas walking the rooftop bar at night!

I had the hots for this beautiful nipo-brasileira chic...she was nice, but damn she was a snob, and ultra conceited...

Ironically, I banged 2 girls in my stay at Sao Paolo - a French-Canadian business traveling chic, and a Colombian girl there on business as well....

I did not close any Paulistanas. However, in Orlando and Pompano Beach , FL - both areas known for massive amounts of Brazilians immigrants - I can close a Paulista gilr by the 3rd date easily - wtf????


So, what was I doing worng? where was I not going? I even went to hole in the wall chopps where supposedly, the non-rich paulistanas hang - even went to little japan - no closes!
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#47

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Quote: (01-19-2010 09:15 AM)armanid27 Wrote:  

Quote: (01-16-2010 10:42 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

@armanid - I never go to Rio/Sao Paolo/Cutitiba - it's a waste of time for me, too much bullshit and Patricinhas with huge egos to deal with!

Where were you been in SP? My town is huge and the night scene even bigger! Vila Olimpia district always let as worse impression as possible from here.
If come the next time, let me know and I will show you another SP. I promisse!

I was actually all over Sampa - from Jardims area (where I stayed at The Unique Hotel) to Hunting girls at Higienapolis mall, to clubbing at Villa Olimpia - I was everywhere! Sao Paolo is huge, but I think I covered every major area that opening girls was possible. Sure, I met some friendly ones, but it was extremely difficult scheduling them to do anything so we can close short of taking them dancing and spending a ton of money on them like a dumb foreigner would do!


The hotel Unique I stayed at was incredible! Hotel - and even then, saying I was staying there was a challenge closing - even more so, with snobby Paulistanas walking the rooftop bar at night!

I had the hots for this beautiful nipo-brasileira chic...she was nice, but damn she was a snob, and ultra conceited...

Ironically, I banged 2 girls in my stay at Sao Paolo - a French-Canadian business traveling chic, and a Colombian girl there on business as well....

I did not close any Paulistanas. However, in Orlando and Pompano Beach , FL - both areas known for massive amounts of Brazilians immigrants - I can close a Paulista gilr by the 3rd date easily - wtf????


So, what was I doing worng? where was I not going? I even went to hole in the wall chopps where supposedly, the non-rich paulistanas hang - even went to little japan - no closes!

Stop right there. You stayed at Unique Hotel, one of the most expensive hotels in SP. Then, you tell me that you were everywhere. No, no. You were at the upper-class/boring/patricinhas everywhere. Higienopolis Mall? Don't make me laugh. It's very upper-class too. It's a jewish neighborhood, therefore here in Brazil, extremely healthy, despite the fact is located close to the old and dirty downtown.
Liberdade district is good on sundays, but not for game, just for the goodies and delicacies at the street market.
For the ones who likes asian girls, SP may be great. We are the biggest japanese society outside Japan. Those girls lives in east side and north side, totally mid-class. They may have a good family. but you wont meet them in those places, or in this very upper-class night scene.
Where you in Vila Madalena? Where you in Itaim? When you come next time email me.

Deixa que essa fase é passageira, amanhã será melhor você vai ver a cidade inteira seu samba saber de cor!
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Quote: (01-19-2010 01:14 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Quote: (01-19-2010 09:15 AM)armanid27 Wrote:  

Quote: (01-16-2010 10:42 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

@armanid - I never go to Rio/Sao Paolo/Cutitiba - it's a waste of time for me, too much bullshit and Patricinhas with huge egos to deal with!

Where were you been in SP? My town is huge and the night scene even bigger! Vila Olimpia district always let as worse impression as possible from here.
If come the next time, let me know and I will show you another SP. I promisse!

I was actually all over Sampa - from Jardims area (where I stayed at The Unique Hotel) to Hunting girls at Higienapolis mall, to clubbing at Villa Olimpia - I was everywhere! Sao Paolo is huge, but I think I covered every major area that opening girls was possible. Sure, I met some friendly ones, but it was extremely difficult scheduling them to do anything so we can close short of taking them dancing and spending a ton of money on them like a dumb foreigner would do!


The hotel Unique I stayed at was incredible! Hotel - and even then, saying I was staying there was a challenge closing - even more so, with snobby Paulistanas walking the rooftop bar at night!

I had the hots for this beautiful nipo-brasileira chic...she was nice, but damn she was a snob, and ultra conceited...

Ironically, I banged 2 girls in my stay at Sao Paolo - a French-Canadian business traveling chic, and a Colombian girl there on business as well....

I did not close any Paulistanas. However, in Orlando and Pompano Beach , FL - both areas known for massive amounts of Brazilians immigrants - I can close a Paulista gilr by the 3rd date easily - wtf????


So, what was I doing worng? where was I not going? I even went to hole in the wall chopps where supposedly, the non-rich paulistanas hang - even went to little japan - no closes!

Stop right there. You stayed at Unique Hotel, one of the most expensive hotels in SP. Then, you tell me that you were everywhere. No, no. You were at the upper-class/boring/patricinhas everywhere. Higienopolis Mall? Don't make me laugh. It's very upper-class too. It's a jewish neighborhood, therefore here in Brazil, extremely healthy, despite the fact is located close to the old and dirty downtown.
Liberdade district is good on sundays, but not for game, just for the goodies and delicacies at the street market.
For the ones who likes asian girls, SP may be great. We are the biggest japanese society outside Japan. Those girls lives in east side and north side, totally mid-class. They may have a good family. but you wont meet them in those places, or in this very upper-class night scene.
Where you in Vila Madalena? Where you in Itaim? When you come next time email me.

I went to Madalena, but not Itaim. Missed that one, as I just had about given up...

I even hung out at Brooklin Novo Mall- which was cool....but again, no closes... :-(

I'll definitely e-mail you next time I am in town - I welcome the opportunity to see Sao Paolo as I imagined (and hoped) it would be. <grin>
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Woa!!! Stop, hold everything!!! Did you just say Polish girls love latinos? :-) Don't play with me man...I'm on Travelocity and Orbitz right now!!!!
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#50

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Sucre, Bolivia gets my choice for Bolivia's best second city

College town with good nightlife (by Bolivian standards) and cute girls.

I picked up a cute Bolivian girl there without much effort (first set of the night)
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