[Spartan]

Do you speak English?

The only opener to ever use.

My wing and I were getting depressed about our chances here until we came upon this realization: intelligent and worldy girls know English.

Stupid and dull girls were wasting all our time and flaking constantly.
Today we were opening sets like mad and the vast majority we passed because of no English, despite my high level of Russian. It was great- within 10 sec we knew which sets not to waste time on. Basically, asking do you speak English is like asking her "Do you want to fuck me?" and she can answer yea, I speak English or no, go away.

At the end, we had great interactions with the English speakers. We even had a girl introduce herself to us because we were speaking English! She fucking opened us, and then had an instadate.

I should have followed Deb's and others advice from the beginning... but I felt a 90% rejection rate was too high. The reality is, if they don't speak or don't want to speak English, they also don't want foreign dick. "Do you speak English?" weeds out the garbage.

Unfortunatley, most of the super hotties won't speak to you... but I guess its still a good spot for 6/7s. Definitely, not a paradise as was advertised. I don't think I would have spent all that effort learning Russian if I knew the reality. A bit dissappointing. I should have picked up Spanish or Chinese Still time to do that......

[The Duke]

"Do you speak English" was the only opener I used in Ukraine. If a girl said yes to this, it basically meant game on. I think there are more keys to having success in Ukraine, but is question is probably the best first step.

Sometimes a girl who speaks almost no English will say yes to this question -- just because she's interested in you. So I dont think you learning Russian was a waste of time.

[Spartan]

perhaps i'll have a better time now that i stick to english speakers. also, perhaps the summer was a dry spot. Quality a bit better than my previous city...but still less than desired. I think I could have gotten plenty more dates/bangs using mamba....but I decided I would improve my day game skills. Well, now I can approach any girl in any location without anxiety and have a reasonable conversation, certainly a skill I'm glad I picked up.

I definately plan on spending more time in the region of eastern europe.

Datasheet for the two cities i spent the summer in incoming soon.

[jimukr104]

umm, if you speak good enough Russian to hold a conversation, it means you have acces to 99% more girls. majority do not spea kenglish and ones wh odo might be ore interested i nenglish speakers ,makes sense , they also tend t obe more hookers ,etc. i wouldnt quite give up on non english. Yo ushould be gettign alot more success with non english speakers.

[Greek kamaki]

Totally wrong attitude.The right question is говоришь по русский?

[Spartan]

Well, several dozen approaches in only russian have led to only one date. she brought a friend along and tried to invite herself to the most expensive cafe. After that, no 2nd date.
Clearly, I need to try somethibg different....perhaps English only.

[chochemonger1]

(07-27-2012 09:18 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Well, several dozen approaches in only russian have led to only one date. she brought a friend along and tried to invite herself to the most expensive cafe. After that, no 2nd date.
Clearly, I need to try somethibg different....perhaps English only.

You just dont have kamakis balkan power hehe. When i go back to E Europe i will try it out. I am light skinned latino American who gets confused as italian, greek in Europe and i am 6 ft tall and muscular. Have a feeling it is a myth, but messing with Serbian mafiosos or Colombia narcos, for that matter, is something to be avoided. Dont mind a fight if it is even though.

[Spartan]

see, today i was wearing a completely unbuttoned baggy green shirt and khaki shorts. i looked like a bum!

i spoke slowly and said "speak english", had a great convo. turns out the girls grandparents are british!

best opener ever

[Deb Auchery]

I'm in the south of Ukraine at the moment. "Hi, Do you speak English?" Is the only opener you need. Arrived in this city yesterday, first girl I spoke to was a 17yr old blonde, "do you speak English?" She replies " so so" as they often do.

She became our tour guide, she was very sweet and had a perfect body. Surprisingly she agreed to go to a nightclub with us last night. I have never seen such sluts anywhere in Ukraine, the girls were dancing like strippers, very hot shit. I made my move on the young one, we were soon kissing. I tried to get her back to my hotel to no avail, she ended up telling me that her mother is deaf and dumb and looks after both her and her grandmother. Made me think about my own life and how.lucky I am.

Meeting her again shortly, will try and bang but no probs if she doesn't, I want to go back to the club and work on those sluts, I was getting a lot of attention.

[el mechanico]

Deb you can't post shit like that here. 18 and up

[Deb Auchery]

(07-28-2012 12:50 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Deb you can't post shit like that here. 18 and up

Shit? What shit is that exactly?, please elaborate. Totally legal here, I have posted before about 17yr olds?

[Roosh]

This site is hosted in the States, so keep discussions 18+.

Quote:

I was getting a lot of attention.

We know. You're the man in Ukraine. How many times are you going to repeat it? You're like a broken record.

[el mechanico]

(07-28-2012 01:03 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 12:50 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Deb you can't post shit like that here. 18 and up

Shit? What shit is that exactly?, please elaborate. Totally legal here, I have posted before about 17yr olds?

The forum is hosted in the states so it's very illegal. They will shut this place down permanent and dissect it. Maybe even issue a warrant for you. I've seen it. They do what they want and nobody is out of reach. My buddy is doing 12 years for some Taiwanese schoolgirl videos he had in his drive.

Also no lawyer here wants anything to do with representing you so Fed jail it is.

[Deb Auchery]

And US law applies to me how exactly? I'm from UK where the legal age is also 16

[el mechanico]

(07-28-2012 01:15 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

And US law applies to me how exactly? I'm from UK where the legal age is also 16

The forum is hosted here and it's 18. Even a local redneck florida county sheriff could send the wolfpack after you or anyone they want. They have the money and love doing it. I'll post links if need be or you can take my word for it.

[Tuthmosis]

   

[Moma]

(07-28-2012 01:19 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(07-28-2012 01:15 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

And US law applies to me how exactly? I'm from UK where the legal age is also 16

The forum is hosted here and it's 18. Even a local redneck florida county sheriff could send the wolfpack after you or anyone they want. They have the money and love doing it. I'll post links if need be or you can take my word for it.

Deb does have a point. I don't think the US can go after a UK citizen operating under his country's standards.

However, yea the below age ting might get the forum in wraps...

P.S. Deb is so awesome, I want to read his bang books.

[Aliblahba]

http://www.ageofconsent.com/uscitizens.htm

[Spartan]

(07-28-2012 12:29 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

see, today i was wearing a completely unbuttoned baggy green shirt and khaki shorts. i looked like a bum!

i spoke slowly and said "speak english", had a great convo. turns out the girls grandparents are british!

best opener ever

I was wondering now..how did these Brits end up living in the Soviet Union? (now former, must have still been Soviet when they moved here)

Were they communists who decided to leave capitalist London and live a socialist life?
They are not expats...the family lives on a Belarussian style salary and the girl is getting an education here.

Very interesting history behind this. History, and especially communism are fascinating.

[Roosh]

Tuth: you need to spill your image source.

I know you got all that shit organized on your computer somewhere.

[worldwidetraveler]

(07-28-2012 01:15 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

And US law applies to me how exactly? I'm from UK where the legal age is also 16

It isn't about you, it is about the forum and the owner, who happens to be American, following local laws. The forum is hosted in the US, and can be closed for breaking US laws.

If you are not in Odessa you should get there. Ibiza is something else.

[BurnFirst]

Age of consent is not 18 in the US, it varies by state. Some states it is 16.

[MikeCF]

(07-28-2012 06:42 PM)BurnFirst Wrote:  

Age of consent is not 18 in the US, it varies by state. Some states it is 16.

Yes, there is a federal age of consent law.

Under the Mann Act, inducing anyone under 18 through interstate commerce (travelling to her, having her travelling to you, using email) to have sex with you is a federal crime.

There's a foreign version of the Mann Act that applies to sex tourists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_t...ted_States

If you're a U.S. citizen who travels to Germany to have sex with a 16 year old, you have committed a felony.

Also, having sexually explicit images of a girl under 18 is a federal crime.

There is a lot more nuance to it, but if you want to avoid going to prison and being a registered sex offender for the rest of your life, do not have sex with or talk about having sex with anyone under 18.

Even being "vindicated" in a prosecution for a child sex crime will ruin your life.

There's no point is trying to outsmart the law.

If she's under 18, don't mess around.

[BurnFirst]

Not sure any of that is relevant; nevertheless it is Roosh's forum and he sets the rules.

[MikeCF]

(07-28-2012 07:12 PM)BurnFirst Wrote:  

Not sure any of that is relevant; nevertheless it is Roosh's forum and he sets the rules.

You can't see why a website located in the U.S. wouldn't want to have discussions of what is, under U.S. law, child pornography and child exploitation? For real?