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Why Should Women Be Feminine if They Foot the Bill?
07-25-2012, 11:25 AM
I found this Dalrock post about a galling article where older women are indignant that men are not willing to splurge on them.
Men No Longer Footing the Bill To Court Older Women
Love in the Time of Austerity
By comparison, Roosh's latest article complains that feminism aims to allow women to be fat sluts. My basic question is: Isn't that a natural consequence of income equality?
I can understand that women who make less money must compensate with femininity. That explains why U.S. women were more feminine in a previous generation, and why third world women are more feminine. But if women pay their way, then why should they work hard on appearance and personality?
There is a certain justice in the Leave-It-to-Beaver world. If you can't find a hot wife then you simply haven't worked hard enough to be rich and successful. But now women don't want your financial success. Instead they want game. I suspect the pretty and personable U.S. women get snatched up very quickly, and will be hard to find in nightclub environments.
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07-25-2012, 03:42 PM
Women still want your financial success. The fact that they make more money now hasn't changed that. It just means they want a man to foot the bill, while they splurge on themselves with their money. Game is definitely more necessary now though, because she doesn't HAVE to have your money. And her NEED for your money hasn't totally dissipated. A lot of these career women are looking for the best opportunity to get out of the game, have a kid or two, and live nice. They're just making that move a little later than previous generations did.
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07-25-2012, 03:48 PM
In Tampa bay the girls still need/want guys money. It's not like DC. They're all retards and if it's not a dude it's parents or grandparents paying for their shit. I know because I own a shop. They never pay their own bill.
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Why Should Women Be Feminine if They Foot the Bill?
07-25-2012, 04:54 PM
I throw out a test on every first few meetings with a new girl. That is, do they offer to pay their half? If they do, they score a bonus point. If they offer to pay their half, then I'll offer to pay the full amount. If they still pay their half, they get another bonus point.
They always have to be feminine, otherwise they don't get a second meeting.
The reason this works is because girls want to be on dates. If they didn't, they'd flake. Their offering of payment is recognition of the fact I've brought value to her time.
At the end of the day, I enjoy my own company, so I'm not going out of my way to pay to spend time with anyone, and if they don't fulfill my criteria for an enjoyable time, then I'm certainly not going to see them again.
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07-25-2012, 05:13 PM
Quote: (07-25-2012 04:54 PM)Kitsune Wrote:
I throw out a test on every first few meetings with a new girl. That is, do they offer to pay their half? If they do, they score a bonus point. If they offer to pay their half, then I'll offer to pay the full amount. If they still pay their half, they get another bonus point.
They always have to be feminine, otherwise they don't get a second meeting.
The reason this works is because girls want to be on dates. If they didn't, they'd flake. Their offering of payment is recognition of the fact I've brought value to her time.
At the end of the day, I enjoy my own company, so I'm not going out of my way to pay to spend time with anyone, and if they don't fulfill my criteria for an enjoyable time, then I'm certainly not going to see them again.
Sometimes, the offer to pay half is a test. If you accept her offer, that's the last time you'll see her. So be it, because I don't want to deal with a chick that plays those kinds of games.
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07-25-2012, 05:39 PM
Quote: (07-25-2012 05:29 PM)el mechanico Wrote:
Quote: (07-25-2012 05:13 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
Quote: (07-25-2012 04:54 PM)Kitsune Wrote:
I throw out a test on every first few meetings with a new girl. That is, do they offer to pay their half? If they do, they score a bonus point. If they offer to pay their half, then I'll offer to pay the full amount. If they still pay their half, they get another bonus point.
They always have to be feminine, otherwise they don't get a second meeting.
The reason this works is because girls want to be on dates. If they didn't, they'd flake. Their offering of payment is recognition of the fact I've brought value to her time.
At the end of the day, I enjoy my own company, so I'm not going out of my way to pay to spend time with anyone, and if they don't fulfill my criteria for an enjoyable time, then I'm certainly not going to see them again.
Sometimes, the offer to pay half is a test. If you accept her offer, that's the last time you'll see her. So be it, because I don't want to deal with a chick that plays those kinds of games.
I just grab the bill and go all in for the fuck. There's no need to show your principles or give shit tests pre bang. If you can get her to the table you can get her to the bed.
I agree. I had a discussion with a woman I know recently about this. She was on a date with a guy, and when the check came he grabbed it and pulled out his card. She offered, he declined, no big deal. Then she asked, "Are you sure?" She said later in the car, homie was NOT HAPPY. She wasn't trying to test him - she was legitimately offering to pay her share. But I told her the mistake was making an issue of it. He already grabbed it and was taking care of it. Most men are fully prepared to do so when they invite you out. By asking him if he was sure he could handle it, it was as if you were directly questioning his ability to pay. If you feel strange about a guy paying for you, call him one day and ask HIM out, on you. But don't make the whole issue of the check awkward when it doesn't have to be.
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07-25-2012, 07:28 PM
I've fucked girls after they paid for my dinner and drinks. I've fucked girls after we went dutch. I've fucked girls when I've foot the bill (which I don't do often). Tight game conquers social norms.
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07-25-2012, 07:36 PM
If a woman isn't feminine I don't give her a second chance, regardless of how successful she is. That is the whole point.
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Why Should Women Be Feminine if They Foot the Bill?
07-25-2012, 07:47 PM
Yes a woman can be successful and feminine. Whatever she does at work she leaves there. When a woman is with me, no matter how tough or masculine she has to be at work, with me she turns into a feminine girl who aims to please. People act differently in social situations. Even lawyer cunts turn into submissive little girls around the right man. In fact, they fantasize about it.
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Why Should Women Be Feminine if They Foot the Bill?
07-25-2012, 09:18 PM
Quote: (07-25-2012 07:47 PM)UgSlayer Wrote:
Yes a woman can be successful and feminine. Whatever she does at work she leaves there. When a woman is with me, no matter how tough or masculine she has to be at work, with me she turns into a feminine girl who aims to please. People act differently in social situations. Even lawyer cunts turn into submissive little girls around the right man. In fact, they fantasize about it.
Should read "People act differently in different social situations."
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Why Should Women Be Feminine if They Foot the Bill?
07-27-2012, 10:10 AM
Women should be feminine if they want to inspire a masculine man. If she doesn't give a shit, and can find a man who doesn't give a shit, more power to them. Just so long as they aren't lying to themselves.