[esperar]

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Jesus Christ, can some one please kick the shit out of the white knights? I've really had enough.

[speakeasy]

(07-11-2012 09:21 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

That is why I think that organizing CS meetings is the way to go. First of all, you're the one in charge. You chose the date and the location. You tell people what to bring. You're in a position of power. So, you organize a BBQ at the beach and some 20 chicks show up. Most of them will be fugly, but if you're lucky there will be some talent. You can now try to build attraction. You also have to use the right words, such as "open-minded" and "non-judgemental", to prove that you and them belong to the same "tribe". From then on, use standard Game 101.

More like 20 dudes will show up. I've been to some of these meetings and they are all mostly guys. And what girls do show up are usually meh.

One possible way around this I can think of is actually looking at profiles in your area and then sending cute girls invitations. You might have to send 100 copy and paste invitations to your event to get 10-20 to come through. Maybe something simple you can send out like, "Hey, I'm putting together a CS BBQ this weekend at such and such a park, you should come through." If you send it to girls who are traveling in town at the moment or au pairs, I bet your turn out rate would be higher.

[Icarus]

(07-11-2012 08:14 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

More like 20 dudes will show up. I've been to some of these meetings and they are all mostly guys. And what girls do show up are usually meh.

A buddy of mine organized a BBQ once. Some 40 to 50 people showed up, including 20 chicks. A good ratio, kind of. Unfortunately, most of the chicks were ugly, socially-retarded Asians or disgusting unkempt hippies. However, there were two very pretty chicks aged 21 and 22. One of my buddies made one of them his fuckbuddy for three months. Another buddy made the other hot chick his girlfriend (they're still together). Not a bad outcome.

Organizing CS events can be fruitful in some rare cases. It probably won't work in LA or NYC, where hot chicks have too many choices. But it can work in smaller college towns, where there are plenty of hot undergrad chicks and not a lot of professional men in their late 20s and early 30s to wine and dine them, which means that the chicks are bored and not too spoiled.

It's all about location, really. Chose a smaller pond, and the fishing will be pleasant.

[WEDO]

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Now here's the key, in the message I also ask something like "Btw, do you think it's ok with your boyfriend that we meet? I heard French guys are the jealous type and I don't want anyone to get mad." Of course, you can say that about any guy from any country. But the point is to screen her to ensure that you don't end up spending the afternoon with a girl who already has a boyfriend and near zero potential to hook up

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

I think if the chick was hot enough....I'd risk having a cup of coffee with her before cutting her loose (even if she has a boyfriend).

Some of the best pussy I have ever had in my life was some other guys girlfriend....you know there is a reason some chicks are constantly hooked up.....they are not only good looking but good in bed as well.

[XXL]

great post OP

let me hop in to clarify something from my point of view..

(07-11-2012 09:21 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

She has a point. You violated the cardinal rule: you openly used CS as a dating site. You cannot do it! People hook up on CS all the time, but they like to think that it "just happened" and that it was "spontaneous". In other words, fucking is a happy by-product, not the goal. Being too direct too early will make those hippy sluts think you're "creepy". You can be direct after you have built attraction, i.e., after you have met them face-to-face.

icarus reads my mind.

dontuan does very good job asking them "Btw, do you think it's ok with your boyfriend that we meet? I heard French guys are the jealous type and I don't want anyone to get mad". cause on site where people are suppose to do all that 'cultural exchange' you need to be innocent and trustworthy enough at first to be welcome by a girl to meet you. the second you come too straightforward with sexual frame she's alarmed you're another internet creeper and it's done.

(07-11-2012 10:04 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

Wait. So what? Am I supposed to waste hours hanging out with girls who may have a boyfriend all along or only intended to share pleasant stories about culture and travel?

When I used the toned down "You think it would be OK with your boyfriend?" response the girls didn't get weirded out. And I was able to screen them. That's way more efficient in my book.

of course. it must be very subtle. like you ask out of politeness, not to show how dominant/alpha/superman you are. it has to be finessed. chicks don't look for guys on sites like CS but no question that they're open up for the possibility for hooking up via CS if a guy happens to be cool. but it's not like on dating site, it has to progress like... he's innocent > he's ok > he's interesting > he's exciting > he's hot sexy let's do it. it takes time. she needs to feel that it's not pre-planned but rather a natural consequence of 2 people hanging out.

it's very similar to social circle game when you're welcome cause you're ok/innocent in the first place. and only then you use your charm to cast a spell on ladies building sexual tension that can speed up the process of seduction

PS. i propose to ditch "am i alpha/beta" type of thinking forever and get in touch with the context of any given situation make. communication is deeper than words.

[RaulValdez739]

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Now here's the key, in the message I also ask something like "Btw, do you think it's ok with your boyfriend that we meet? I heard French guys are the jealous type and I don't want anyone to get mad." Of course, you can say that about any guy from any country. But the point is to screen her to ensure that you don't end up spending the afternoon with a girl who already has a boyfriend and near zero potential to hook up

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

[speakeasy]

(07-14-2012 10:51 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Now here's the key, in the message I also ask something like "Btw, do you think it's ok with your boyfriend that we meet? I heard French guys are the jealous type and I don't want anyone to get mad." Of course, you can say that about any guy from any country. But the point is to screen her to ensure that you don't end up spending the afternoon with a girl who already has a boyfriend and near zero potential to hook up

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

Let us know what happens. What I'm curious about is how "on guard" she will now be after you asked her status.

[RaulValdez739]

(07-14-2012 01:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 10:51 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

Let us know what happens. What I'm curious about is how "on guard" she will now be after you asked her status.

Funny thing is she was expecting me to make a move. But we didnt hook up because she doesnt go for younger men. Oh well

The next day i message another girl. This time i did no screening at all. We do a bar date and after some conversation, we made out all night. Next weekend we will hangout again, probably bang for sure

[Surreyman]

(07-14-2012 10:51 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Now here's the key, in the message I also ask something like "Btw, do you think it's ok with your boyfriend that we meet? I heard French guys are the jealous type and I don't want anyone to get mad." Of course, you can say that about any guy from any country. But the point is to screen her to ensure that you don't end up spending the afternoon with a girl who already has a boyfriend and near zero potential to hook up

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

(07-14-2012 01:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 10:51 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

Let us know what happens. What I'm curious about is how "on guard" she will now be after you asked her status.

Awesome move, I've done that before!

She thinks you're way into her, and you turn it around and she apologises!

I remember one convo going like this:

her: I like that you haven't asked for my number yet.
me: You assume I want your number.

She was backpedalling after that. It's like a neg, but with none of the potential to backfire.

[chochemonger1]

(07-28-2012 06:33 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 10:51 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

(07-14-2012 01:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 10:51 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

Let us know what happens. What I'm curious about is how "on guard" she will now be after you asked her status.

Awesome move, I've done that before!

She thinks you're way into her, and you turn it around and she apologises!

I remember one convo going like this:

her: I like that you haven't asked for my number yet.
me: You assume I want your number.

She was backpedalling after that. It's like a neg, but with none of the potential to backfire.

Guys, pay for a dating site like Vietnam, Colombian, Filipino Cupid,etc. You can hook up on couchsurfing sometimes,no doubt, but time is money. So the 30 bucks a month on a paysite is worth it.

[Byzzy]

What i usually do (and it works) is this: I look for foreign girls between the ages of 18 and 30 who are staying in my city as tourists. Then i message some girls, but i consider 2 things: (1) number of people that have visited their profile, and (2) the last time that they logged in. After i have a decent number of profiles i send the following message:

Hi ________, i noticed that you're from X city and that you're staying in my city right now. The thing is that I'm going to your city in 1 month and it'd be great if you had time to meet for a coffee so you could help me out with some tips, and maybe i could show you around if you're still new to the city. Greetings.
I also noticed that you've been in XX city before, how is it?? I'm going there in the next summer too

Of course that everything is bullshit since i'm not traveling to those cities in a near future, but girls tend to believe it and are willing to meet with me.

[Hades]

Do you guys recommend I make a different couchsurfing profile or log in with my facebook account (which is real information)?
Also is couchsurfing free?

[WanderingSoul]

You fucking rapists........

[eeneymeeney]

Quick question: is it better game to stay with a female host, or to stay somewhere else and meet a woman at a bar/park/wherever?

If it is staying with a woman at her house, any good techniques that won't get me thrown on the streets in the middle of the night?

I'm quite new to this, but am going away for a bit soon, so hoping to get some practice in. Have learned a lot from reading the forums.

[speakeasy]

(05-07-2013 07:16 PM)eeneymeeney Wrote:  

Quick question: is it better game to stay with a female host, or to stay somewhere else and meet a woman at a bar/park/wherever?

If it is staying with a woman at her house, any good techniques that won't get me thrown on the streets in the middle of the night?

I'm quite new to this, but am going away for a bit soon, so hoping to get some practice in. Have learned a lot from reading the forums.

I've never surfed anyone's couch so take it for what it's worth but based on my fake profile experiment, women on the site don't seem to host much. Even other women have a tough time finding a female host so I imagine it's far harder for a man to get accepted by a solo female host. And if they do host you they'll probably be on guard as there's a whole lot of "creeper" paranoia on CS as of late since the number of guys on there looking for sex has exploded in the last year.

Honestly I wouldn't even bother. Just get your own spot on airbnb or something and meet women in regular circumstances. Because if you do meet a chic while out it's not like you can pull her back to your host's place.

[eeneymeeney]

Thanks for that.

If I stay at a hotel etc, and meet at a a bar/cafe etc, do you have any good suggestions to turn the conversation sexual, without being obvious?

Also, can you recommend any good ways of getting her back to my hotel room?

[speakeasy]

(05-08-2013 07:52 PM)eeneymeeney Wrote:  

Thanks for that.

If I stay at a hotel etc, and meet at a a bar/cafe etc, do you have any good suggestions to turn the conversation sexual, without being obvious?

Also, can you recommend any good ways of getting her back to my hotel room?

These topics have been pretty widely covered on this forum. Just dig around, man. In fact I think Roosh's book BANG should have you covered on this type of stuff.

[Frank Mackey]

(07-14-2012 01:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 10:51 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-11-2012 08:29 AM)dontuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2012 02:18 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 08:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When I first read that I thought, "Hmm that's a bit beta" but then I thought of my CS experiences and it would have saved me many hours I wasted to find out about a BF down the line. I will try this "Strategic Beta" move.

If a girl says she has a BF, do you just cancel?

By the way just a friendly reminder to everyone: don't publicly post your CS profile on here ever. CS white knights are lurking.

Say instead "Alot of boyfriends tend to be threatened by me and so i prefer to meet with single girls." That appears stronger than what you said.

Hey, so I just took your advice and replied to a girl with that "boyfriends threatened by me" line. This is how she replied:

"I will be honest with you, I'm very surprised by your message. If you’re looking for single women, in my opinion, you should consider changing the portal. CS is the place, where you can find people with the same passion which is world, travelling or cultural differences, not looking for single women and dating opportunities. When you understand this philosophy, you will also understand that it shouldn’t be important to you if I have a boyfriend or not... or will he be threatened by you or not...
By the way, you must be very presumptuous to write things like that."

Ouch! won't be using that one anymore.

Damn lol. A conversation with a girl went like this once

Myself: Cute pic by the way. Are you single?

Her: Oh boy, is this a hook up thing? I really just want to meet new people.

Myself: No ofcourse not. But alot of Boyfriends feel threatened by me. So i prefer to hangout with single girls.

Her: Ok, sorry if I offended you. And yes, single.

I'm suppose to meet her this weekend

Let us know what happens. What I'm curious about is how "on guard" she will now be after you asked her status.

I used couchsurfing a lot, mostly hosting girls at my place. While I see the idea behind these subrepticious ways of asking her if she is committed, I believe the best tactic may actually be not to ask her anything at all.

I prefer to carefully check for any references or stuff in CS or in her facebook that may suggest that she has a boyfriend. If that is the case, it means two things: (i) she has a boyfriend; (ii) she wants to show the world that she has a boyfriend. It's even worse if in the online conversations with you prior to meeting she ever mentions at her initiative that she has a boyfriend (like "yes Frank, I'm just coming to Lisbon for one night, since I am departing to Rio on Sunday to visit my boyfriend".)

If there is not any reference or suggestion online that she has a boyfriend and she does not mention it, it should mean two things: (i) she does not have a boyfriend; OR (ii) she has a boyfriend and has for now decided not to make this public. Girls can have a ton of reasons not to exhibit their commitment status, one of which could be the fact that they know they won't be hosted if they do so. But experience has suggested me that many, many times, when their FB profile does not have any indicator of commitment, it means they are "breakable" when you host them. I can tell you that at least one girl I hosted (and that I banged the same night she arrived at my place) admitted later that she had a boyfriend, and that he was freaking out when I liked some stuff she posted in her profile (we kind of got a bit attached for some months, it was a nice experience). Also, in my group of friends, the girls who are totally committed to their boyfriends usually publish photos and other stuff in facebook that confirms the existence of the relationship (of course, some girls will not do that since they are against sharing stuff in facebook about relationships).

So, to sum it up, I NEVER ask them if they have a boyfriend.

I prefer instead to check if they are into me, and this can be done in many different ways. Usually in the second message I send (after she confirms she accepted my host request) I tell her something like »so when you arrive just call me at this number ...; if you have facebook online, you can also add me there, this is my email and am always reachable in fb also.» If the girl does not add you as a friend in facebook, this is a strong indicator that she is not curious about you. I have cancelled hosting girls because of this, many times.

Basically, I think it's better to check if she is "motivated" (as you guys have already underlined also) than to check if she is "committed".

PS: anyway, there are no strict rules in relation to this. I remember making out with an Australian girl I hosted (did not bang though), in the same day when she was talking with her boyfriend at my place through skype for around one hour... during which she even cried and told me she missed him. maybe she was crying because she already knew what was going to happen later

[speakeasy]

^^^ Good stuff. I'll have to try that FB trick. It is really important to know if she's got a boyfriend. I once hosted a girl(via open couch invite) and we really hit it off. But she had a boyfriend. There was nothing in her CS profile to indicate this. Only found out when she causally mentioned him in conversation. Nonetheless there was a lot of flirtiness going on and I could tell that if she was single she'd easily be mine. I tried to make a move a few times but she wasn't letting that happen. I can respect her loyalty(in fact it's refreshing to know there are decent girls out there) and left it at that. We still keep in touch by FB.

[RaulValdez739]

CS girls puts pics like this as their default and were not suppose to think of sex lol

[Frank Mackey]

(05-10-2013 10:07 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

CS girls puts pics like this as their default and were not suppose to think of sex lol

God, I would take holidays at my job just to host this one!

[Icarus]

(05-10-2013 10:07 AM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  

CS girls puts pics like this as their default and were not suppose to think of sex lol

Next time I create a fake CS profile, I will use that photo.

Tig ol' bitties bring all the boys to the yard.

[eeneymeeney]

(05-08-2013 07:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(05-08-2013 07:52 PM)eeneymeeney Wrote:  

Thanks for that.

If I stay at a hotel etc, and meet at a a bar/cafe etc, do you have any good suggestions to turn the conversation sexual, without being obvious?

Also, can you recommend any good ways of getting her back to my hotel room?

These topics have been pretty widely covered on this forum. Just dig around, man. In fact I think Roosh's book BANG should have you covered on this type of stuff.

Right, well I did buy the book, and though I haven't read it all, I did think it was a really good read, especially compared to many other PUA books. This is because it covered many scenarios that apply to me, not what I should be doing.

I was hoping that you wouldn't mind giving me your thoughts on some techniques I've thought of/previously used:

First would be to meet in a bar, and do as the book says move on to another bar etc; then just take her back to my hotel room.

Alternative one would be meet at a cafe/restaurant (I know not the best idea, but we all have to eat, and a little cultural exchange isn't bad), flirt a bit, and introduce relationship-style topics (I have those from another PUA book - Around the World in 80 Girls); then to get her back to my hotel, tell her I have a present from home for her (which is true, but will only be a keyring etc), which hoepfully means she will go.

This all sounded better in theory, but I'd like to know what you think.

[Icarus]

Gents, we are on GigaOm!!!

How Couchsurfing became the Friendster of the sharing economy (Jan. 10, 2015)

Carmel DeAmicis Wrote:

The Couchsurfing community struggled to spread its ethics to newcomers. People started using the service like a dating application with predictably bad results. Rape and assault incidents garnered international attention and female couchsurfers began receiving tons of emails from other overly friendly users. Some men even published guides for how to turn couchsurfing into a “real sex pipeline.” This one has lovely little recommendations, like telling men to target newer female users because “they haven’t [yet] developed a firm mindset on what the site is for.”

[TheMaleBrain]

I've signed recently to CS, after a friend recomended me - for the events.

I'm trying a new strategy - message the girls, who are looking to be hosted that I might be able to host them for one night. I suggest we hang during a day or two. I'll show them around the city/area.
The idea is to make the date, and come back to my place (if possible) for the bang.

This is recent, so I don't have anything to show yet.
Will update.