[joker]

I've been seeing this chick for bout a month now. Here are the logistics:

1st date: drinks and a make-out (end of night)

2nd date: movies and another makeout

3rd date: Dinner then hooked up in her car. Titty suck, got pulled didnt blow

4th date: dinner (she paid and drove) got pulled hookup titty suck. I blew this time.

It seems that every-time i go for a reach downstairs to undo the pants she doesnt allow, shaking her head in a playful way. Anywho, she rubs me up i get a titty suck get jerked off. Im usually confident in going down stairs with a girl and it being the 4th time face to face seeing her i cannot fathom why she's not allowing it.i've rubbed her outside the pants and tried on a few occassions to escalate by going back down. Is it because she's frigid? Testing my eagerness? She does however jerk me off no probs but should i move her away? I've only had 1 bang so I'm doing the best that i can to learn from my mistakes. Ive probably failed in asserting my alphaness by blowing like a little bitch and not giving her anything. And as always i accept the "ugly" truth you guys are prepared to throw out.

Cheers

[Blunt]

Whats this chick's history? Putting game problems aside, this chick may be on her period or have a yeast infection.

This is all in a car? Some girls aren't into 'adventurous' venues. Get her to your crib asap.

Talk to her on the phone and say you want to cook her dinner. Keep the conversation real short though so she doesn't have time to question your motives. If you don't know how to cook then just order some solid food. Get some wine.

Sometimes if a girl is doing the 'playful deny', I'll just get a little rough on her. Say that she's being bad, grab her by her upper arm, pull her across your lap and give her some slaps on the ass. Don't go HAM on her. Lots of the times the girls just want to get to the sex in a more playful than romantic mood. If she freaks out, then she probably is a frigid bitch.

And, please, don't feel like you have to go down on a girl to impress her. I stopped doing that with the vast majority of bangs in the last two years, and blowjob frequency has increased exponentially. Cause/effect? I never go first, but even if I did and she didn't reciprocate I would walk out/kick her out immediately. The only chicks I'll go down on now is if they're real young and pure looking.

[joker]

Not too sure about the period and yeast infection stuff mate. I'll try and get her to my place cause everyone'll be out at work so ill finally have the house to myself. I don't know how to track if a girls on her period. im under the assumption they're really moody when they're ovulating. And I forgot the principle. Is it; be a jerk when she's on her period or when its passed? I dont mean that in the literal sense but you catch my drift.

[Blunt]

(06-10-2012 10:33 AM)joker Wrote:  

Not too sure about the period and yeast infection stuff mate. I'll try and get her to my place cause everyone'll be out at work so ill finally have the house to myself. I don't know how to track if a girls on her period. im under the assumption they're really moody when they're ovulating. And I forgot the principle. Is it; be a jerk when she's on her period or when its passed? I dont mean that in the literal sense but you catch my drift.

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying talking about her mental state or mood when I said she might be on her period, I meant that some girls are self-conscious about the blood and are just not down for getting nasty during the period. I'm talking about logistics here.

This is your second girl ever? Don't even try and base your personality on her menstrual cycle. That sounds like theory, forget about it for now at least. Your personality shouldn't be reactive in the first place, it is unattractive, you have to control over your own state.

Anyways if she is being a bitch and you think its because of PMS just forget about her for a couple days. Try and get another girl for your line-up.

[Parlay44]

She could be a virgin. I knew one girl that gave every guy head. She used to announce in public how great she was at giving blowjobs. Never gave up the poon though. She actually held out til marriage. Unbelievable I know Just straight up ask her if she's a virgin. Who cares if she gets pissed and walks. You're not hitting it anyway. I also agree about getting her to your place. More comfortable surrounding may inspire her to give it up.

[Indefatigable]

Don't know why she's doing that, to be honest, but to me you've already lost seeing that it will take 4+ dates to get in her pants. I would never stand for that, not even if I was looking for a LTR, which I am not. Not saying you should bail now and lose all the work you've already put in, but the fact that it is taking you 4+ dates to get in her pants tells me that you've made mistakes.

[joker]

Im looking at it this way. Most guys who've had 1 bang have had to go through the long and arduous process before getting it. I think this chick is down for an LTR but im not really feeling it. May as well stick it out get the bang and experience necessary in order for me to move on to bigger things. Like i said ive only had 1 bang and that was closed in 5 face-face meetings. Ill do my best to have more girls in my arsenal and ill play the cold game with this one until she opens up a bit....hehe

Also, is anyone willing to discuss their 1st times. I just wanna see if we all share a universal system before getting it 1st time.

[Perseus]

IMO you've taken TOO LONG to escalate, 4th date??? .....i would usually get into the titty suck/pussy rub/fingering/sometimes BJ on a first date, 2nd MAX! (not to brag or anything, i just go in strong and confident).

Trust me, i get shit load of resistance for titty grab/suck, but plow through it until i'm there, then i go for pussy rub and get even more resistance, again plow through it, till i'm finally there fingering her ( i never go down on broads on a 1st/2nd date, i'm not much of a giver ).

By plow through i mean if you get resistance, move your hand away for a a minute or two, grab her tits/whatever, make the make out more intense, grab her hair while you're making out with her then go down there again. You gotta keep her stimulated, as this will break down any resistance.

If i were you i'd try to aim to park somewhere within proximity of either your place or hers, so that when things heat up in the car between you and her, to the point where she's about to have an orgasm, STOP everything right there, get out the car without saying a word, tell her to get out as well, or go to her door and open it, then TELL (don't phrase it as a question, resistance will go up) her to show you her place, or tell her that you wanna show her something cool of yours at your place.

This is at best a thumbnail sketch of some of the shit i pull. Go strong, Go confident, like you're the best fuck she will have in her whole life.