[EdinD]

I've been in many situations lately where I have contact with a lot of aggressive women, most seem to be in there 30's - 40's, from anything to getting really close to my face and giving the look about no more then a foot away, a lot of kino to touching my arms and hands, some pressing there breast on me, I'm young 24 and most of this seems to happen at work, I'm in sales, I'm not sure to go for it or if these women are doing it to get a moments kick out of it. any one figure out the best way to handle these kinds of women?

[Blackhawk]

They're teasing you because you're a safe target. They know you're working and can't play while on the clock.

Tease back. "Hey, careful with the merchandise! You touch, you buyyyy...me a beer." (smirk), "Looking for someone?" (smirk) "May I interest you in our fine selection of crystal encrusted plumbing accessories? <or other absurd thing you obviously aren't selling>" (smirk) and if she doesn't laugh but instead says "yes", look to the left and the right and then say, "Oh, I guess we're all sold out at the moment." or similar banter. But don't become an entertainer. Make at most three banter responses then take it down. Worst case you'll get more sales. Once you've made your best effort to close the sale (or did close the same and they've signed payment), transition to, "You look like a person who knows all the cool things going on this weekend. Where are you going?"

Have fun, enjoy the attention, and after sales are done see if you can get into the Daygame track to GALNUC and eventually get their phone number. Don't be picky, try to follow them all down. Worst case you'll get practice for the others.

And expect a high flake rate. That's just part of the Game.

[Screwston]

Lucky...I'd probably get fired.

[muc]

If I were you these would be my thoughts/actions:

1. Trying to game them in any way is a no go. Why would I want to have sex with a 30 - 40 year old women that behave like immature men? I'd rather have sex with a plastic doll or a sheep. Seriously.

2. I have boundaries. "Please stop touching me.", "Don't you think you are a little close?" or simply each time just walk away. They will never respect you if you don't set boundaries. Do it in a friendly, but assertive way. (Btw. if things get ugly, quitting is always an option. Might be better than going full-conflict with them.)

3. It's okay to compliment them slightly. After all, they are probably seeking some validation behaving like that. But do it in a way that doesn't seem like you are hitting on them. You are merely trying to make them feel a bit better. Like a charming old retiree that knows how to treat a lady but won't have sex with her.

[I'mWaitingForTheMan]

"1. Trying to game them in any way is a no go. Why would I want to have sex with a 30 - 40 year old women that behave like immature men? I'd rather have sex with a plastic doll or a sheep. Seriously."

Dislike. There are plenty of women in their 30s that exceed the boner test. What do you think happens to all the twenty-something 8s and 9s? They get a bit older and may lose a point on the rating scale, yet you would feel great banging one.

I hear sheep are very tight and always squirt. I have no experience in this department though, perhaps you can enlighten me on the finer points.

[muc]

(06-08-2012 07:22 AM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:  

Dislike. There are plenty of women in their 30s that exceed the boner test. What do you think happens to all the twenty-something 8s and 9s? They get a bit older and may lose a point on the rating scale, yet you would feel great banging one.

I was referring to women that behave like immature men. A hot 20 year old will turn me off if she's not feminine for that matter. But some men might disagree, sure. And yes, I agree with you there are some attractive 30+ women. But in most cases I'd pass. (P.S. I might change my mind when I am 40 or 50 years old.)

But there's another reason not to do it: The rule/good advice about not fucking anyone from your workplace. Unless it's an incredible crush, I'd say it's not worth the possibly bad consequences.

[Blackhawk]

(06-08-2012 07:11 AM)muc Wrote:  

2. I have boundaries. "Please stop touching me.", "Don't you think you are a little close?"

Those sentences are both sure to kill any sale. If I said either of those things when bartending I'd make $0 in tips.

muc has his boundaries, but when you enter sales, which is a people business, those all get moved over 20 ft. People are going to flirt with you. People are going to touch you. And it's pretty much expected that you flirt back if you're going to make a sale. You learn to read posture, body language, certain cues like the quality of hair style, their makeup quality, what shoes and purse they have, and you group clients into a few different categories where you know what to say and how best to give them what they want even though you've never met them before in your life.

The thing is, it's brief. Like I said, at most three banter responses and then reduce your energy level and get back to business, which is why you're being paid. Close the sale.

The problem in sales is when you're flirting all day to close it's difficult to know what's genuine and what's just part of the job.

Houston's probably right. If it was my primary source of income I would be more professional. Because I'm doing it as a favor to people I know and it pays nowhere near my day job, I'm probably a bad employee who hits on the customers.

[Hades]

I ignore them, all of them.
If they're trying to tease me into acting unprofessionally or trying to get me fired, they can go straight to hell. They should not be in a position where they can use my sex drive against me. I'm not a fan of the anti-harassment laws but I'm surely not going to have that shit on my record.

If it's a customer it's different. I'd acknowledge it with a light return-kino or some bullshit-banter no more than a second or two. Just enough to tease them back but not look out of place in the day. Being awkward is probably a sale-killer.

[EdinD]

Agreed, many of the 30-40 year old women pass the boner test, I enjoy the attention and the kino, I give just about three genuine compliments to make them feel good and get them into conversation about themselves while I actually start closing the sale, and not looking like i'm hitting on them, I have noticed that the flake ratio is high. We can go by email if the customers have any questions but who really does emailing, I also have a google voice number but I've only put it to use a few times. I work for most of my day and this is mainly where I meet women, I've come across a few crazies but thats whem the google voice number has come in handy.