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DATA SHEET: Valencia, Spain
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DATA SHEET: Valencia, Spain

To inaugurate Roosh's June datasheet drive, here goes:

City: Valencia, Spain

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Prices in EURO

City Overview:


I feel qualified to write about Valencia having gamed here for five years and spent that time uncovering where not to go for quality punani, where to go to minimise my efforts and all the little gems that abound in this city.

Valencia is the third largest city in Spain with a metropolitan area population of over 1,000,000 people. It is the principle second tier Spanish city and as such offers rich pickings for international love tourists everywhere.

The main advantages Valencia offers the enterprising poosy hound:

Number one advantage has to be one of the best climates in Europe. Almost 330 days of pure sunshine a year, very little rain, great temperatures in the range of 12 degrees to 35 degrees all year.

It’s very compact size enables you to walk the city without the need for hiring a car or paying extortionate rates for taxis. Switching from one main nightlife area to another is a simple matter of a 10 minute walk enabling you to experience everything the city has to offer relatively easily.

Prices here are cheaper than in many parts of Western Europe due to the ongoing financial crisis that has gripped Spain and resulted in the highest unemployment rate in the western world – More money for condoms!

Being second tier, the girls are far more impressed by international love tourists than they are in places like Barcelona or Madrid which receive many more international flights.

Did I mention the great beaches all within easy walking distance of the town center and packed to the rafters with young topless girls all the way from May to October thanks to the great climate we have.
Good nightlife due to the fantastic weather resulting in a whole load of outdoor terrace nightclubs where you can game to your heart’s content under the stars, cocktail in hand.


Getting Here:


Relatively simple as Valencia is well connected. Easiest option is to arrive in Valencia Airport (Manises) and from there it’s a 10 minute metro ride to the city centre. If your departure airport doesn’t connect with Valencia, check if it connects with Alicante (El Altet) which is 2 hours away by bus transfer from Valencia. Ryanair and Easyjet offer regular flights here. Alternatives include high speed AVE train from Madrid (just 1.5 hrs) fast train from Barcelona (3 hrs) or driving here from across the Pyrenees via France (7 hrs).


Language


You can get by without speaking a word of Spanish. Note that English levels are significantly worse here than in Germany or Scandinavia but by the same token the younger girls will be over eager to finally have someone to practice their crap English with. Of course some Spanish would be highly advantageous.


Girls:


Very nice indeed. The combination of wonderful weather, great beaches and the popularity of a healthy Mediterranean diet mean the majority of girls are slim, tanned and sexy. Bare in mind this is a city where most of the year you can get away with T-shirt and shorts and the girls have every incentive to stay in great shape. Valencia and indeed Spain is not the best destination if you only favour blondes as the local population tend towards brunettes and dark haired girls.


Sight seeing:


Plenty to keep you occupied for 3 or 4 days. We have a very old city centre with winding streets, the cathedral which is said to host the Holy Grail, internationally famous Parque de las Ciencias with some of the best architecture you’ll ever see, various art museums and a unique river garden that winds the length of the entire city.


Festivals:


The two festivals worth mentioning are the world famous Fallas and the Tomatina.

The Fallas is possibly Europe’s biggest street party with fireworks and bonfires galore and is a goldmine for punani miners willing to make the journet as the city fills up for a week with international and Spanish young people looking to have a good time and get drunk.

Tomatina is another opportunity to pick up locals as thousands converge on a small town an hour from Valencia while trucks enter the town laden with tonnes of ripe tomatoes that are thrown onto the crowd for everyone to enjoy throwing at each other. Bring old clothes.


Lodging:


A 3 star hotel will set you back around 50 euros a night. I reccommend renting an apartment so you can carry out your nocturnal “research” unmolested.

Hotels my friends have personally used to visit me in Valencia and which come recommended:

Hotel Catalonia Excelsior:
Great hotel with a great location next to the town hall square. The area can get a little noisy at night during the weekend but this location can’t be beat. 39 euros per person.

Hotel Petite Palace Germanias: Nice hotel in a very central location in one of the poshest areas of Valencia, the Ensanche. Great base for meeting the local posh girls who love to congregate in the area. 35 euros per person.

Apartaments Blue Moon: These apartments are clean and conveniently located in the Carmen area of the city, famous for its bohemian nightlife and the amount of international tourists that throng the area on a weekend. 35 euros per night.


Internet Gaming:


Lay your prearrival pipeline via BADOO, which by itself has more Spanish users than all the other sites combined. I have extensive experience in this area and all the others are a waste of time. Couch surfing can also be profitably mined.


Day game spots:


Calle Colon is the main shopping road and is jam packed with talent all week round, especially after 17:00 on a Saturday where sheer target abundance makes selection tricky.

The Turia gardens themselves offer girls tanning, jogging, cycling and generally relaxing, making a chill opener very easy to execute. I use the spot near the Palau de la Musica extensively as girls love to mill here to catch some rays.

Finally there are two large universities in the city (Universidad de Valencia and Universidad Politecnica) with campuses centrally located (Universidad de Valencia more centrally than the other) and full of young chicks interested in meeting an international man of mystery. I always open with the tried and tested “excuse me, hows your English” and due to the fact that so many of the girls would like to emigrate to English speaking countries to escape the deep recession here, they often relish the opportunity to practice their English (which is usually worse than you would expect).


Nightlife spots:


It will come as a shock to those not used to Southern Mediterranean nightlife that on the weekend Spaniards will start dinner at 22.00, finish dinner by 24:00, go on to a pub/bar until 3 AM and then go to the club until 8 AM.

Don’t make the same mistake I kept on making which was arriving at the clubs at 1 AM and wondering why they were empty! There are four major night life areas that I will describe in more detail, for each I will recommend a great bar for gaming and my favourite nightclub in the area.


El Carmen:


This is the most central of the nightlife areas and has a real alternative and bohemian vibe to it. Very popular with tourists and daytrippers, it gets very busy at night and is a target rich environment.

Bar: Jimmy Glass Jazz bar – My favourite jazz bar in the city with a slightly older clientele but does see its fair share of more intellectual/sophisticated girls that are well worth gaming. A top place for a venue bounce should you want to get a sophisticated romantic vibe going with your date.

Club: Bolseria – Get here early in the Summer because it gets packed very quickly on weekends. Drinks are expensive and not great but it does get full of drunk girls trying to dance along to the top ten hits they play. The ratios are particularly good here and the place attracts so many tourists wanting to sample the nightlife that chances are you can get away here with not speaking a word of Spanish.


Canovas:


Where I live and the poshest area of town, full of great restaurants and well heeled girls.

Bar: Portland Ale House – Great little American run pub, specialising in Ales and full of posh Spanish girls wanting to meet English speaking guys to practice with. On Tuesdays and Wedensdays at 20.30 there is an English language exchange with locals that attracts some very fine talent.

Club: La Posada de las Animas – Entrance fee can be a little expensive but this place does great mainstream music and has a very cool vibe. If you like high heels this is your place though ages can vary as the high entrance fee increases the number of post wall ladies you will encounter here. Good ratios male to female.


Alameda:


This area is near the Parquet de las Ciencias and is almost all terraces and outdoor clubs making it a wonderful area to visit in the Summer.

Bar: Domm Club – Chill out bar with a large outdoors area on the pavement, located 100 metres from the Umbracle nightclub, making a bounce easy and natural. Serves good cocktails, the staff speak English and serves as a convenient base from which to check out the plethora of other chill out bars on this side of the street. Extremely popular in the summer.

Club: Umbracle – Fantastic open air nightclub with open air music and large dance floor area. Very popular with all age ranges and great for those that don’t like being enclosed in a confined space with the music blaring at top volume. Plenty of room to take you target for isolation, far from the speakers where you can talk and romance her. Have had a lot of success here. For those who prefer more hardcore music and an enclosed space, for the same entrance fee you have admission to the underground nightclub Mia, underneath the Umbracle. Two for the price of one!


Blasco Ibanez:


The main student nightclub area of Valencia, resulting in cheap prices and lots of horny ERASMUS students which are notoriously easy to pickup.

Bar: New York pub - though called a pub this is in fact my favourite chill out tongue down bar in Valencia. Chill vibe, sofas, dark lighting and great seductive music combine to make this THE place to bounce your lady to. Great cocktails too.

Club: Caribeans – A cross between a pub and a club, this little known secret is teeming with ERASMUS exchange students as well local students attracted by the cheesy mainstream music, free entrance and cheap drinks. Highly recommended for pulling foreign totty with a Salsa night on Wednesdays that its almost impossible not to bounce someone from.


Final Thoughts:


Valencia is highly recommended for all international love tourists. No slumming it here to get to your nightgame venue through snow drifts, no getting searched by state police looking for a bribe, no massively expensive cocktails when you settle down to do some gaming in your nearest chill out lounge. If you’re looking for good gaming opportunities combined with the possibility to kick your feet up and enjoy the climate, beaches and great fresh food, then this is your destination.

Any forum member who visits and wants an insiders tour, feel free to PM me.

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DATA SHEET: Valencia, Spain

Excellent data sheet BigAlexBoss! +1

I've been to Spain a few times but never to Valencia, seems like a cool place to visit. What would you recommend as a monthly budget there for a furnished apartment and going out 2-3 times per week, would 2500 Euros be enough?
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Great guide.

The beach is really awesome there.

I went there last year during La Tomatina, it was madness, I recommend it for all. Most of the people at that time were australians and british people though, at least the places we ended up. Also, I believe the Water and Wine festival slightly out of town the night before la tomatina is a big party. I didn't end up there since I had a mixer with my tour group.
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DATA SHEET: Valencia, Spain

Great datasheet, a +1 from me.

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Could you talk more about the language barrier (or lack of)? I've heard that Valencia has a language similar to Catalan, and that it's quite different from regular Spanish. Is it worth trying to pick up this language, or are English and Spanish enough assuming are virtually no residents who don't speak either?
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Awesome data!+1 from me too. I've always heard only good things about Valencia and I'm looking at that place as an option to post up there for a few months in a year or 2. Thanks for dropping this sheet!
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DATA SHEET: Valencia, Spain

I love that city. Lived there for 5 months when I was doing Erasmus. I can testify to the knowledge dropped here +1 from me.

It has a great mix of the beach and AWESOME nightlife. In many ways I prefer Valencia's nightlife to Barcelona. It's less cosmopolitan than Barcelona and quintessentially Spanish. Valencia was the last city to fall to Franco, they are proud Spaniards. None of the Catalan or Valenciano language BS here.

The clubs are really damn good. They have outdoor clubs like La Luna Rossa (not sure if it's still open?) and L'Umbracle, making it cool as fuck.

I used to enjoy going to Cafe Cantante on Plaza Espana and also Indiana, when I was there Indiana had shark tanks but the place got burnt down so it had a refurb.

Makes me wanna go back.
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#8

DATA SHEET: Valencia, Spain

Thanks very much guys, will be updating it tomorrow morning with more on the language barrier and a few more gaming venues of interest.
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#9

DATA SHEET: Valencia, Spain

Nice data sheet and thanks for the info. The only thing I didn't get from the sheet, is the ease of banging the Spanish girls there. Is there a good chance for gettimg ONSs in Valencia or do you have to have several dates. There were hints that being a 2nd tier city, it offered more opportunities for the love traveler than Barcelona or Madrid. But as has been attested, in the forum many times, Spanish girls are some of the hardest to crack in Europe. Or were you getting most of your action from the foreign tourist girls? As Naughty Nomad does in his site with his 1 to 5 scale, as to the ease of hooking up in a city, where would you put Valencia on that scale.
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Outstanding sheet BigAlexBoss. I saw a show on Valencia on the Travel Channel, and put it on my list of places to see purely because of the Grail. But now I see that it's definitely a city worth settling down in for a while and really digging in.

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DATA SHEET UPDATE: Valencia, Spain

Language

The level of English in Valencia (and Spain in general) is possibly the worst in Western Europe. It is worse than the level you would get in Germany and Scandinavia, but better than the level you would find in FSU.

If you limit yourself to under 25's, in Valencia 1 in every 5 of your approaches will speak decent conversational English, 2 in 5 will be able to get by in a conversation with many pauses and errors and 2 in 5 will have almost no English.

The massive upside to this is that coupled with the 50% unemployment rate for under 30 youths in Spain, the vast majority of these young nubile chicks are desperate for an opportunity to practice their English with you... in fact you may even start to feel a bit used if you attend an english exchange night at Portland Ale House for example and find yourself surrounded by 15 eager spaniards all trying to talk to you at the same time (happened to me last week!)

Valencia has a regional dialect called Valenciano which is the same as the Barcelonian regional dialect Catalan but with a different pronunciation. Good news for international punani slayers is that these regional languages are an irrelevance for pickup as everyone who speaks them also speaks Spanish. If you speak a little Spanish you are *gold* but even if you only speak English, you will have good success due to the high demand amongst the youth to practice with English speakers.

Ease of ONS

With ERASMUS european exchange students (Valencia is consistently the most popular ERASMUS destination in Europe... you do the maths why this is...) much much easier.

The locals are a little more conservative than in Northern Europe because being a 2nd tier city, they have smaller and more closed social circles that require a little bit of time to enter.

The myth of Spanish girls being uptight and catholic is a myth as Spain now has a lower level of church attendence than most other European countries.

I would plan for a minimum 1 week stay in order to get your local flag.
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Solid, solid, solid.

I am going to be putting in some quality time on the coast of Spain here starting at the end of June and was looking at Valencia and Alicante both. Slightly torn or maybe I will swing both. Can you compare at all to Alicante?

Secondly, what are drinks setting you back price wise in the clubs/bars?
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QWest: Thanks - if you are rolling for a weekend only in the Summer, I would do Alicante as its a smaller city (pop half a million in metro area) and much more integrated to the beach scene as the marine walk is a part of the seafront of the town. Its full of beach tourists and very popular with British, Germans, Scandinaivans, Eastern Europeans etc.

Any longer than a week I would go to Valencia, far more to do, far more cosmopolitan city and more girls to target [Image: smile.gif]

I'm not a big drinker myself, but a mojito will set you back around 8 euros at a top end club. I dont see that as excessive relative to some places (Sweden...London...Paris etc)
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Quote: (06-01-2012 03:04 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  

DATA SHEET UPDATE: Valencia, Spain

Language

The level of English in Valencia (and Spain in general) is possibly the worst in Western Europe. It is worse than the level you would get in Germany and Scandinavia, but better than the level you would find in FSU.

Not making sense here. This is the one region in the world that probably has the best level of English as a second language.
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Spaniards are much better at English than the Italians and French, I have found.
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Quote: (06-09-2012 05:17 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote: (06-01-2012 03:04 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  

DATA SHEET UPDATE: Valencia, Spain

Language

The level of English in Valencia (and Spain in general) is possibly the worst in Western Europe. It is worse than the level you would get in Germany and Scandinavia, but better than the level you would find in FSU.

Not making sense here. This is the one region in the world that probably has the best level of English as a second language.

Good point, I didn't describe that well:

The level of English in Valencia (and Spain in general) is possibly the worst in Western Europe. It is MUCH worse than the level you would get in Germany and Scandinavia, but a little better than the level you would find in FSU.

If you dont speak some spanish, you will have more problems being understodd here in English than in the rest of Western Europe. Having said that its not an FSU situation of hunt the English speaker. Half the young girls you approach will have enough English to interact with (badly or otherwise)
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Quote: (06-09-2012 04:39 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  

QWest: Thanks - if you are rolling for a weekend only in the Summer, I would do Alicante as its a smaller city (pop half a million in metro area) and much more integrated to the beach scene as the marine walk is a part of the seafront of the town. Its full of beach tourists and very popular with British, Germans, Scandinaivans, Eastern Europeans etc.

Any longer than a week I would go to Valencia, far more to do, far more cosmopolitan city and more girls to target [Image: smile.gif]

I'm not a big drinker myself, but a mojito will set you back around 8 euros at a top end club. I dont see that as excessive relative to some places (Sweden...London...Paris etc)

Thanks for the insight, very helpful. I think I'm gonna do Alicante June 29th-July 4th or so and see what comes of it. I like the idea of the marine walk being integrated with the city more.

No those drink prices seem very reasonable considering I was just in Paris and spent 20 euros for a Grey Goose rocks at a high end club.
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Do you know if the hotels in general (Valencia, Alicante) have a problem with guests bringing girls back to your room? I've been to some places and its a huge problem which forces you to rent apartments which I'm OK with, but I like to know my options.

Any insight on this would be very helpful.
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How is online dating there?
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#20

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Great sheet! I'll be there from tomorrow onwards for 6 days. Any special events going on ? Recent changes in bars/clubs in summer (if they are not listed in your data sheet)?
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#21

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+1 rep, thanks, I want to find a warm dry climate city that's civilized and not super expensive
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#22

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Awesome data sheet! I know where I'll be going next year!
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#23

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Wish I had this when I was there. I was there for three nights and night gamed alone. I actually gave up because of how difficult it was as everyone goes out in groups. Nice city though.
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#24

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So, is it better to find a place in the city center or by the beach? I found both on airbnb.
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Quote: (07-22-2015 03:04 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  

Wish I had this when I was there. I was there for three nights and night gamed alone. I actually gave up because of how difficult it was as everyone goes out in groups. Nice city though.

I find this data sheet to be a bit overhyped. I can't imagine a foreigner doing well with the local girls in Valencia without fluent Spanish and a good social circle. I'm a local and did my own data sheet last year. Valencia is far from being an easy place for girls and you generally need to have your shit together to pull quality, although the foreign students and tourists balance things out a bit.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-40584.html

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