[speakeasy]

(05-20-2012 02:45 PM)haywire Wrote:  

Experts say Facebook is here to stay. Too strong a brand now, has matured, learned from others' mistakes and 1 in 6 people(and pretty much all of the urban world) in the world are on it.

Facebook is still a young company. I think it's premature for anyone to say it's hear to stay. Some companies are are over 100 years old. Facebook isn't even a decade.

Some feel that FB is a ponzi scheme:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanholiday/...vertising/

They better come up with brilliant ways to monetize the site because I don't think the ads are going to effective in the long-term. I don't even remember the last time I clicked on one. And we all know we don't even look at the ads.

[speakeasy]

(05-20-2012 03:03 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

While guys were/are saying, "Facebook in the next MySpace," 1,000 people became millionaires.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busine...66998.html

Game denalists say, "Game doesn't work!"

Guys who run game say, "Facebook is the next MySpace! We're in a bubble! America is doomed!"

Fear and jealously motivate game denalists.

Don't let those same forces motivate you.

Instead of saying, "Facebook is the next MySpace," find a way to cash in.

Uh yeah, just jump on the bandwagon. Facebook is priced 120x actual earnings, but it's all good! Just jump in so you don't sound like a hater.

[MikeCF]

(05-20-2012 04:04 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(05-20-2012 03:03 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

While guys were/are saying, "Facebook in the next MySpace," 1,000 people became millionaires.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busine...66998.html

Game denalists say, "Game doesn't work!"

Guys who run game say, "Facebook is the next MySpace! We're in a bubble! America is doomed!"

Fear and jealously motivate game denalists.

Don't let those same forces motivate you.

Instead of saying, "Facebook is the next MySpace," find a way to cash in.

Uh yeah, just jump on the bandwagon. Facebook is priced 120x actual earnings, but it's all good! Just jump in so you don't sound like a hater.

It's too late to jump on the bandwagon.

If you had taken a job at Facebook in 2009, you'd be a multi-millionaire.

Hating and being critical of businesses isn't going to make you rich.

But getting a job at one of these "bubbles" would have.

Think bigger.

[michelin]

Mark got married? I couldn' t care less...

[scorpio]

Girls have ruined me on marriage. But for a guy like him, I think he did a lot to minimize risks. I guess this post is for the LTR, marriage-minded betas out there.

Asian. Would a 20-something white girl marry Rupert Murdoch, fuck him, and stay married to him this long? Compare that to billionaire Larry Ellison's hot educated (white) wives. I used to live in the Bay, and there, a lot of white guys preferred Asian girls b/c they were perceived to be stabler and more loyal. From what I saw and heard, the girl's mom can be a serious impediment to divorce, but she has to be an immigrant still married to the old man for this to work.

First-time fucks. I bet they lost their virginity to each other. The exit door is tougher to break thru. One piece of advice I will give to ALL MANKIND is never marry a divorced woman. It's much easier for them to hit the eject button the second or third time around.

Make her earn it. 9 year courtship is a long time. My bro dated his wife for 14 years. They're pretty rock-solid.

I'm willing to give Zuck the brass ring simply because he was smart enough to marry a Plain Jane. Anybody who marries a hot or beautiful chick is dumber than fuck.

[Timoteo]

(05-20-2012 03:54 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(05-20-2012 02:05 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Another point...how many guys in his position marry someone as accomplished as a doctor? All these years, she's been working towards a REAL career. A serious one, that takes years of intense study, and that study doesn't stop once you get a job.

It's definitely an accomplishment, graduating from medical school, UCSF no less. But it's like some investment banker said about why he dates kindergarten teachers. It'd be such a mindfuck logistically and emotionally to date someone else who is pressed for time and stressed by a high powered career - why would I want to date a woman in that position? A man needs a woman who is emotionally available at least as much as women do.

That said, if I had to choose a wife from a certain profession, I'd choose a pediatrician. Intelligent, feminine, likes kids, isn't after big money or prestige.

Good points all, but we've pretty much established that Zuck isn't like most guys. We've also discussed at length how marriages are doomed to failure when the woman has a demanding career. His career is, and has been demanding from the moment he started this. Her studies have been all-encompassing. But they're still together. I wonder how much time they've spent together in the time they've known each other while he worked and she went to school. For most couples that would have spelled doom long ago, and would have chalked it up to bad timing in their lives. I think you might have two unique individuals that are simply right for each other, and can deal with the time apart and different career pursuits. Of course, we'll see what happens when a kid or two comes into the mix.

[soup]

(05-20-2012 02:54 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

If you could eliminate your sex drive, would you?

I wouldn't....But I get a lot of pleasure out of life that is totally unrelated to sex. Oftentimes sex got in the way of those other pleasures.

Needing to pursue women is a form of slavery. We become a slave to a desire.

I used to skip a workout to meet a chick. I'd lose focus at work because of a chick I was digging. Dating seemed random.

I learned game not so much to get more sex, but to control my access to sex. Game switched the power to me.

With game, I'm not caught in a storm where I can't get the women I want. I have more focus because when I want to meet women, it's no thing. Thus, there is a freedom to have other pursuits.

So I totally get Zuckerberg's choice.

Again, it's not my choice. I love women and the game far too much.

But I can understand why a guy might not want in the game.

Well, isn't the formalization of game a reaction to the feminism? I can understand why a lot of guys would not want to be in the game. I don't want to be in it. I hate getting rejected, even though I know that's part of the game (I've reframed rejection as girls rejected my bad game vs. rejecting 'me'). I hate the fact that I spend an enormous proportion of my time working on my game, when I could be practicing guitar or doing other things. But, I put a ton of effort into game because I see no other option that is as effective or efficient.

At first, I thought game would actually free up a lot of my energy. I'm still hoping this will come about in the future.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the thrill of the chase, but ideally, there wouldn't be any "game" to play.

[Vitriol]

(05-20-2012 01:16 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Yeah dude's wife is a 5, he could be fucking/marrying 10's, but at the end of the day isn't it about being happy in your life? Guys on here are so pussy and looks motivated, I understand because those are extremely strong drives for me as well, except I am not a one-dimensional person, I know there is more to life then just "fucking hot chicks."

If I were in the guy's shoes, yeah I'd do things differently. But, I can't say my way is right and everyone else's is wrong. As cliche, corny, and "beta" as it will sound to most of you, maybe Zuck truly has connected with her on a deeper level, loves her, and isn't as concerned or motivated by female attractiveness. Different strokes for different folks.

Also, basil is right, this chick was with Zuck from the GET, any chicks who come after him now, you can never know their intentions. This Asian chick, probably would stick with him, even if some how he lost it all, and ended up working as a busboy in 10 years (which is prob impossible), but anyways, sometimes you can't quantify or qualify shit like that. There is no formula or equation for happiness, 100 notches + anal sex from a 10 = enlightenment, happiness, and fulfillment.

The most ironic and humorous thing would be if Zuckerburg is happier and more fulfilled than Roosh with his 5 wife, then Roosh with his 1000 notches, and flings with HB 8-9 women.

This is an interesting point that brings up some big picture issues that are a bit beyond this thread. However, I tend to think that some guy who is workaholic with a mediocre, boring wife suddenly starting not being so career focused and smashing some higher quality pussy on a regular basis, he'd feel like he was wasting his time working so much and not enjoying life more. I think something like this strikes too close to our instincts to be up for much debate. The guy might think he's happier with his marriage and working long hours, but he's probably just complacent. Happiness is more about what's wired into our brains than obligations to career or a marriage.

I know the years that I spent studying or working my ass off weren't the most enjoyable. They were a means to an end. If you already have billions in the bank, why put yourself through that shit? It gets to a point where it's dysfunctional.

[Timoteo]

(05-20-2012 08:26 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

(05-20-2012 01:16 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Yeah dude's wife is a 5, he could be fucking/marrying 10's, but at the end of the day isn't it about being happy in your life? Guys on here are so pussy and looks motivated, I understand because those are extremely strong drives for me as well, except I am not a one-dimensional person, I know there is more to life then just "fucking hot chicks."

If I were in the guy's shoes, yeah I'd do things differently. But, I can't say my way is right and everyone else's is wrong. As cliche, corny, and "beta" as it will sound to most of you, maybe Zuck truly has connected with her on a deeper level, loves her, and isn't as concerned or motivated by female attractiveness. Different strokes for different folks.

Also, basil is right, this chick was with Zuck from the GET, any chicks who come after him now, you can never know their intentions. This Asian chick, probably would stick with him, even if some how he lost it all, and ended up working as a busboy in 10 years (which is prob impossible), but anyways, sometimes you can't quantify or qualify shit like that. There is no formula or equation for happiness, 100 notches + anal sex from a 10 = enlightenment, happiness, and fulfillment.

The most ironic and humorous thing would be if Zuckerburg is happier and more fulfilled than Roosh with his 5 wife, then Roosh with his 1000 notches, and flings with HB 8-9 women.

This is an interesting point that brings up some big picture issues that are a bit beyond this thread. However, I tend to think that some guy who is workaholic with a mediocre, boring wife suddenly starting not being so career focused and smashing some higher quality pussy on a regular basis, he'd feel like he was wasting his time working so much and not enjoying life more. I think something like this strikes too close to our instincts to be up for much debate. The guy might think he's happier with his marriage and working long hours, but he's probably just complacent. Happiness is more about what's wired into our brains than obligations to career or a marriage.

I know the years that I spent studying or working my ass off weren't the most enjoyable. They were a means to an end. If you already have billions in the bank, why put yourself through that shit? It gets to a point where it's dysfunctional.

I also think there are people that are completely fulfilled by what they do for a living. It's almost as if it isn't work at all - it's who they are. This guy is a techie to his heart. He seems to me the kind of cat that can't wait to get to the office, and is thinking about "work" shit 24/7, and it makes his dick hard. He gets a charge out of what he does. When he closes his eyes, he probably sees Matrix-like code...HA HA!

[wolf]

I watched a documentary on Mark Cuban( Mavericks's owner), the guy always started up businesses in his life.

He enjoyed working, even on his honeymoon he called one of his co-workers to see how they were handling some business thing.

These guys enjoy working, and his wife understood and accepted that his work life was like a second wife. To most women if the guy is not spending his time with his woman then she feels like the guy is spending time with another woman, doesn't matter if it's work, hobby, volunteering. These women are attention whores and nothing will come out of them, but the ones that understand that the guy needs to and like to work and can live with that then their marriage will last. I think their marriage will last.

[alphaspiraton]

Not sure why everyone is so ignorant to the fact that she COULD walk away with billions in a few years. Or at least a buttload of cash. Sure she has some reasons to stick around for the beta but also $10,200,000,000 to not stick around. Come on I expected more from you guys.

[alphaspiraton]

Not sure why everyone is so fucking ignorant to the fact that she COULD walk away with billions in a few years. Or at least a buttload of cash. Sure she has some reasons to stick around for the beta but also $10,200,000,000 to not stick around. Come on I expected more from you guys.

[Vice]

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[Timoteo]

(05-20-2012 09:19 PM)alphaspiraton Wrote:  

Not sure why everyone is so fucking ignorant to the fact that she COULD walk away with billions in a few years. Or at least a buttload of cash. Sure she has some reasons to stick around for the beta but also $10,200,000,000 to not stick around. Come on I expected more from you guys.

Have you read the whole thread? Most of the early posts expressed that very fear. We're also exploring the counter argument that maybe Zuckerberg and his new wife aren't typical of most couples, and perhaps aren't together or motivated by the same things others are.

[Basil Ransom]

(05-20-2012 08:04 PM)soup Wrote:  

(05-20-2012 02:54 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

If you could eliminate your sex drive, would you?

I wouldn't....But I get a lot of pleasure out of life that is totally unrelated to sex. Oftentimes sex got in the way of those other pleasures.

Needing to pursue women is a form of slavery. We become a slave to a desire.

I used to skip a workout to meet a chick. I'd lose focus at work because of a chick I was digging. Dating seemed random.

I learned game not so much to get more sex, but to control my access to sex. Game switched the power to me.

With game, I'm not caught in a storm where I can't get the women I want. I have more focus because when I want to meet women, it's no thing. Thus, there is a freedom to have other pursuits.

So I totally get Zuckerberg's choice.

Again, it's not my choice. I love women and the game far too much.

But I can understand why a guy might not want in the game.

Well, isn't the formalization of game a reaction to the feminism?

For one, game has always existed (cf. Ovid), but it wasn't codified, published and shared. More importantly, civilized society would keep a tighter lid on pussy, making it harder to get laid. For the most part, if the way you got laid was by getting married, the return on learning game is small. It's smaller still with an arranged marriage.

Nowadays, when charisma and social status are among the most important factors for getting laid, premarital sex is abundant, and women don't need to pair up with their equal - they can fuck men out of their league - the return on learning game, or creating some niche that gets you laid, is way more rewarding than 100 years ago. If on the other hand, you got married early, and your arranged wife was sweet, loyal and shapely, and adultery was difficult to consummate, the return on learning game is small.

[MikeCF]

(05-20-2012 09:40 PM)Vice Wrote:  

(05-20-2012 09:19 PM)alphaspiraton Wrote:  

Not sure why everyone is so fucking ignorant to the fact that she COULD walk away with billions in a few years. Or at least a buttload of cash. Sure she has some reasons to stick around for the beta but also $10,200,000,000 to not stick around. Come on I expected more from you guys.

Seriously, everyone here is automatically assuming that she won't divorce him down the road just because she's a 5.

You guys are family law lawyers?

Explain to me how his soon-to-be-ex-wife will be entitled to 1/2 of the IPO money when that is clearly Zucerkberg's separate property.

[porscheguy]

(05-20-2012 11:13 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

You guys are family law lawyers?

Explain to me how his soon-to-be-ex-wife will be entitled to 1/2 of the IPO money when that is clearly Zucerkberg's separate property.

California has the most draconian divorce laws in the country. She might not get half, but she will get a few billion. Divorce courts are tricky and nothing is set in stone.

[alphaspiraton]

She will get half because that is what she is "entitled" to at the end of the "partnership" that is disguised under the name of marriage. There are tons of resources you can use to educate yourself on divorce laws. A simple google search is what everyone should do.

No one should get married for any reason whatsoever in North America (NA). And it's great that some guys are optimistic about it but in NA the concept of marriage died when they introduced the 'no fault' divorces. Basically the wifey can get a divorce without any specific reason provided.

Anyway I'm not debating that here, but rather I am saying that I'm surprised a lot of people here thought their marriage could be successful because this girl is either too ugly to find someone else or that it rationally seems it could work. Women are not fucking rational. One night you take too much bedsheet when sleeping with her and the next morning she's pouring you a bowl of cereal with divorce papers.

[Kitsune]

lol.

This is worse than the 'Next up for Divorce rape is John Cena' thread. His wife got a lawyer: DIVORCE RAPE.
Now, Mark Zuckerberg gets married: DIVORCE RAPE.

Some of you guys act like the sky is constantly falling and everything is going to fuck up just because it exists. I hate to go all new-age psychology, but...

[Hades]

If I were Zuck I'd probably marry her too, hopefully with prenup.
It's damned lonely at the top and you can at least reassure yourself that she liked you before you had money.
When the divorce happens, hopefully you had a few whelps and can walk away with 80% or so. Then you can bang all the 10s and do all the coke you want. I can't see myself giving much of a shit about anything with access to that much money.

[Deluge]

This is completely off on a tangent, but if I were Mark I wouldn't do like a few guys have said they would and jump ship with the money. Facebook is Mark's baby, it's his passion and he's invested in that and building his empire and his power on the world's stage. That said, I wouldn't tie myself down so young and I wouldn't sign a marriage contract in the USA. The college graduate divorce rate may be 20% (someone said so before), but a 20% chance of losing a billion or two is too damn high a chance. And no, I don't think she'll divorce him but I wouldn't in my right mind take that chance with such an enormous sum of money (even if it's only a fraction of his net worth). Like yeah, he loves her and all but he shoud've just kept on cohabiting instead of exposing himself like he has with this marriage.

[Luvianka]

Money knows better. I guess Wall Street is not very happy about Zuckerberg's marriage. They are expecting the worst: http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-fina...ading.html

[Tuthmosis]

Relevant:

[Menace]

(05-21-2012 10:28 AM)Luvianka Wrote:  

Money knows better. I guess Wall Street is not very happy about Zuckerberg's marriage. They are expecting the worst: http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-fina...ading.html

I think that's because the IPO was priced poorly, not because Zuck got married. I like Asian girls, and even I can't get excited about this one. He just did not prioritize hotness, so for him it's fine. From the pics I've seen, he seems to live a fairly homey/pedestrian lifestyle, so I guess she's good enough.

[speakeasy]

Whatever became of the guy from Napster? Based on The Social Network movie, he was much more my style.