[Mrs. Chocolate]

I have a friend at work who is very caring, nice and tender with me. More than average.
I am not interested, but I wish I was, because he is the representation of the real nice guy (although beta).
Today we went to a bakery for dinner and he told me he was about to see a girl friend and the way the conversation was going I understood that he was dating her. (so far, so good.)
Then, he said he was interested, but she has a boyfriend living in another state and never coming to see her. To sum up, he was friend zoned with her.
I told him: this girl will consume you. In the way it is you won't date her and she will screw your possibilities with others. Make a move tonight, try to kiss her (he was going to her place) and if you don't, get lost from her. If she calls, don't answer. Don't be that available. If she persists, start to give lame excuses and don't go to see her. After a while, if she call you back after a month or two, you go and try it again.
And tell her you don't want to be her friend. Ask her to do not call you if she wants friendship.
And more: I said: Nice guys don't have sex. Some girls, most of, are like her, they can't make objective decisions and don't know what they want, therefore they wait a man to make for them.

He got surprised and he will tell me what happened. I am extremely curious.

Did I perveted a nice guy?

Let's see.

[WesternCancer]

I would have thought a 'beta' would not take advice to be more 'alpha' from anyone and be set in his ways. I guess the dynamic changes when a woman tells him what to do. Either way good on you, sounded like he needed a push forward.

[Manystyles]

(05-19-2012 10:01 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

I have a friend at work who is very caring, nice and tender with me. More than average.
I am not interested, but I wish I was, because he is the representation of the real nice guy (although beta).
Today we went to a bakery for dinner and he told me he was about to see a girl friend and the way the conversation was going I understood that he was dating her. (so far, so good.)
Then, he said he was interested, but she has a boyfriend living in another state and never coming to see her. To sum up, he was friend zoned with her.
I told him: this girl will consume you. In the way it is you won't date her and she will screw your possibilities with others. Make a move tonight, try to kiss her (he was going to her place) and if you don't, get lost from her. If she calls, don't answer. Don't be that available. If she persists, start to give lame excuses and don't go to see her. After a while, if she call you back after a month or two, you go and try it again.
And tell her you don't want to be her friend. Ask her to do not call you if she wants friendship.
And more: I said: Nice guys don't have sex. Some girls, most of, are like her, they can't make objective decisions and don't know what they want, therefore they wait a man to make for them.

He got surprised and he will tell me what happened. I am extremely curious.

Did I perveted a nice guy?

Let's see.

Thank you... I am thanking you for men all across the country since most females give the shittiest advice.

[HiFlo]

(05-19-2012 11:30 PM)Manystyles Wrote:  

Thank you... I am thanking you for men all across the country since most females give the shittiest advice.

So do most guys for that matter

[Riker]

Nice! I hate the advice girl's give me, I always end up telling them, "I would like to see you try and pick up a girl." Wish i had a girl like you as a wingwoman lol

[haywire]

Damn, Mrs Chocolate, you're one mad cool chick. Major props.

Btw, you should ask Roosh to change your title and perhaps prepend it with "Looking for an "?

[Architekt]

(05-19-2012 10:01 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

Did I perveted a nice guy?

If he's a legit good dude, he probably deserves a bit of pussy. Either he'll take your advice, fail with that girl, and (hopefully) move on, or succeed and start getting laid. Hopefully he doesn't go to any other girls asking questions, 'cause that's the only good advice I've ever seen from a female..

[Veloce]

Genuinely nice guys are an extremely rare anomaly. I'd say most guys that are pegged "typical nice guys" go home in quiet desperation and watch porn videos of girls getting gang banged and facialized and are harboring some resentment towards women.

Props to your advice though. That's rare coming from a girl. If I had a nickel every time I've heard:

"Just be yourself. That way when you find someone, she likes you for who you really are!"
"Treat her like a princess."
"Take her out to dinner."

...and so on.

[Surreyman]

You're a real decent woman, and a real decent friend. Keep us posted, this sounds interesting.

[Surreyman]

(05-20-2012 11:38 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

"Just be yourself. That way when you find someone, she likes you for who you really are!"

The main problem with this advice is it's so ambiguous. I mean, how many different ways could I approach a girl, and still say I was being myself?

I could refuse to improve myself and stick to repetitive and self-defeating behaviour patterns, or I could be really chill and nonchalant like I don't give a fuck. Either way I could say I'm 'just being myself'.

It's a sentence that could basically mean anything, and subsequently means nothing.

[Timoteo]

Ms. Chocolate, you told this young man exactly what he needed to hear. He wants this girl and wouldn't step up. He was content to be in her orbit. You were honest with him without making him feel like a chump. Hearing this from a woman may actually carry MORE weight with him, considering the way he values YOUR friendship. Not a lot of women would have advised him to do what you did.

[bodmon]

1) great advice

2) WTF is a woman doing on a player forum

[FretDancer]

If only my crushes would have told me that when I was a kid.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

He said that she knew that he likes her. I asked if he ever tried to kiss her and he said NO. then I told him it will be only for real if he tried for her. I rarely doubt it he will date her, even though i told him which kind of dessert to take and how prepare step by step. The waiter paid attention on everything looking like he was making notes himself

[Timoteo]

(05-20-2012 07:06 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

He said that she knew that he likes her. I asked if he ever tried to kiss her and he said NO. then I told him it will be only for real if he tried for her. I rarely doubt it he will date her, even though i told him which kind of dessert to take and how prepare step by step. The waiter paid attention on everything looking like he was making notes himself

Deep down, this girl might be waiting for him to make a move. She's looking for a reason to end it with this other guy - it's going nowhere. Some girls won't end it with one guy until they have another one to move on to. She might be hoping he's the reason to end it with the boyfriend.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

(05-20-2012 08:21 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(05-20-2012 07:06 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

He said that she knew that he likes her. I asked if he ever tried to kiss her and he said NO. then I told him it will be only for real if he tried for her. I rarely doubt it he will date her, even though i told him which kind of dessert to take and how prepare step by step. The waiter paid attention on everything looking like he was making notes himself

Deep down, this girl might be waiting for him to make a move. She's looking for a reason to end it with this other guy - it's going nowhere. Some girls won't end it with one guy until they have another one to move on to. She might be hoping he's the reason to end it with the boyfriend.

This. I told him. She wants wht i call a test drive. You let the guy kiss you and pretend that it was unexpected. If the kiss is good she will keep doing it, id it is not, she will give an excuse and leave

[Snowman]

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Did I perveted a nice guy?

Good advice to betas. You helped him in the most fundamental rules on male and female sexual interaction. Should've referred him to the forum.