[Qwest]

People have been asking about Croatia and I have been meaning to post this as I spent quite a bit of time on the coast last summer there, specifically with Hvar and Vodice garnering most of my attention, with a few nights in Trogir and Split as well.

Hvar is absolutely beautiful to the eye and has a WIDE mix of international women, but its not the cheapest either. Housing was pretty cheap, but drinks when going out were certainly expensive, so consider packing a flask if your trying to save some dough. Logistically, we had a very nice place with an unbelievable view, but it was up on the hill and was quite the haul to get back. Not a lot of taxis either, so you are pretty much stuck walking back at night/morning, which can be a buzz kill for sure. Especially when you have a nice young lady feeling good about life and leaving with you, and now she needs to hike Mt. Kilimanjaro to get back to your pad, it can kill the mood. So this year I made sure to book early, and have a place in the best location in the main square very close to Carpe Diem, which is the club/bar that starts all the action and is ground zero for all debauchery on the island. Overall, you want to try and stay as close to the main square as possible.

It depends when you go, as they have different times, generally a week long, which bring in groups from different countries. I think its tied to the airlines/agencies offering packages or something during different times, but they come in waves nonetheless. One week is Spanish, another Swedish, German, etc. Its not all one nationality during that time, but when we were there, it was a large Swedish contingent. I met very few Croatian girls here, as it is a better to time to get other flags I found. You can call the local travel agencies, and ask them what week is for what country, and they will know for sure.

About 5PM every day, if you want to start the action early, Hula Hula is a beach club which is super mellow during the day, but then has a DJ who comes in about 5PM with champagne showers and full debauchery by just before nightfall. Tons of girls there dancing and getting drunk. With proper logistics, which we didn't have last year but will this year, you could easily get girls out of there back to your place to continue the party which shuts down at about nightfall or shortly thereafter. Since our place was a hike, we used it as a spawning ground to meet a bunch of girls, pull #'s etc, and then be familiar faces to them later in the night which always pays off.

You basically will start every night at Carpe Diem around 11-12, which is the club right along the water and is where everyone gathers to party for the early part of the evening. Then they shut down 2-2:30, and water taxis pull up right out front and take you to Carpe Diem Island which is a 10 min boat ride to another small island where you party outside under the trees and along the beach until sun up. The boat ride was a good time to game as you are sitting on a boat with chicks and already have them isolated without distractions for the most part. Bottle service here was about $120 for a full liter (opposed to US bottles of 750ml) of vodka and mixers. This island is a JUST a club at night and nothing else, but offers ample opportunity to isolate and escalate or in my case even bang. I got my Spanish flag by meeting her in the club, and taking her to the beach on this small island and banging her on a lounge chair about 100 yards behind the club. After talking to her for a few minutes, I'll never forget when she whispered in my ear in her sexy Spanish accent, "I want to go all the way with you tonight." Enough said for this player. She did end up hiking Mt. Kilimanjaro another night, but it didn't kill the mood as she already knew exactly what she was getting when she got to the peak. That night/morning all I needed was a rubber and a lounge chair

The other option from when Carpe Diem closes, is to go to the Castle right up the street called "Veneranda", this spot is awesome and on most nights had a ton of talent in there. It is literally a castle transformed into a club and bar all in one, outside in the courtyard. Pretty wild and something you have to see for yourself. Had some fun making out with chicks in there, but didn't close any of them.

Carpe Diem is free to get in, but both Carpe Diem Island and Veneranda are $15-$20 USD to get in. If you don't feel like spending that, there are a few other bars/clubs which are free and also had a bunch of girls. They are also close to the main square so if your fishing there, then the same location I mentioned is again best. I found these two places best though and had the most talent.

Overall, Hvar is beautiful, can be a little expensive, but has an abundance of hot women from all over Europe who are all in the right mindset to get swooped by the likes of people like us. I had a good enough time that even with the world at my fingertips, I am spending another week there this summer. Primetime is July 15th-August 15th. You could go there for longer and catch the different ones as they come in waves, but I found this just enough time for me. From there I wanted to pull my Croatian flag, and that happened up the coast a little further in Vodice which is a much different vibe and filled with Croatians and Slovenians mostly. That will be for another post though.

[Roosh]

Awesome report!

What can you say about the ratio of guys to girls?

[tomtud]

For Croatia if you want to go on the cheap, you can go out of the city and buy food or drinks much cheaper compared to the tourist spots. That rule applies everywhere.

[K-man]

So what did lodging cost, and was it an apartment or a hotel? Also meals? If you could just expand on the cost section a bit - otherwise great report!

[Qwest]

Awesome report!

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What can you say about the ratio of guys to girls?

My pleasure Roosh, more to come on other places I've hit recently.

I'm gonna say the ratio was roughly 1:1, with a possible slight edge towards more females. I don't remember 100% to be honest but I do remember never thinking I was in a sword fight. Every time we went out there were plenty of targets to choose from! Also, a few very young Scando girls (16, 17) sprinkled in there as well who definitely came to party, mostly at the apres beach party at Hula Hula and not at the clubs. Wasn't my #1 target, but that is legal for Croatia. One HOT 17 year Norwegian girl comes to mind who I'm still friends with on fb, and come to think of it, should be 18 this summer, not that it really matters there but makes me feel slightly better for whatever reason. The other I remember specifically, was a nice young Finnish girl who I tried to game half ass in Finnish, mainly just to sharpen my Finnish which I speak pretty fluently

(05-16-2012 10:01 AM)K-man Wrote:  

So what did lodging cost, and was it an apartment or a hotel? Also meals? If you could just expand on the cost section a bit - otherwise great report!

All the young people pretty much stay in apartments as did we, or a few I met stayed in the hostel. I found out about the hostel because the owner of the hostel swooped a girl I was gaming and who was staying there, can you say free room and board?! I suspect he had already fucked her the night before, but not sure. Either way, cant win them all.

There are a few hotels in Hvar, but they are expensive. This is a luxury destination for the most part (voted top 10 nicest islands in Europe I believe by Conde Nast), so the hotels cater to that clientele.

Our apartment was 90 euros a night for a very clean 2br, as I mentioned up on the hill so a little trek, but had an unbelievable view that if you got chicks on the patio, instant pantie dropper. The other apartments on the hill were also all occupied by other young people, girls and guys, so you would meet chicks walking to and from the apartment. Most apartments will also be multi-level, with other groups staying above or below you, if you hit with the right group you could be sitting on a gold mine. We had some couples below us only, but my wing met 6 girls staying together a few doors down and was doing his thing with them one night as I was terrorizing the clubs.

This summer we are paying 139 euro a night for a 2br RIGHT in the thick of the action.

For food, we went shopping at the market so ate in the apartment for the most part, but then ate out at the late night pizza spots or the bakery which has these Croatian meat stuffed empanada like things. These places your eating for a couple bucks. Had a couple nice meals, they were $15-$25 USD if I remember correctly. I find a couple NICE meals to be a must after a few days of hard charging, and that we did.

Picture of Hula Hula below

   

[TheBulldozer]

I can vouch for the validity of this data sheet. There are a ton of girls walking around the main square at all times. The ratio I felt was tipped in favor of women.

One thing I'd suggest is that you don't even need to start in a bar to hit on girls. There are tons of girls who are wandering the central square at all hours of night taking in the beauty of the central square. It's easy to open with a "take my picture" and go from there. I was able to bounce girls into bars from a few minutes of doing this. It's best if you avoid "Yacht Week" there as you'll have spectacular talent at a club like Carpe Diem, but most of that spectacular talent in one way or another is with a dude who sails a yacht into the harbor. Nonetheless, it's still a goldmine for women from around the world who want to party.

I'd suggest during the day renting a moped and driving around the island. Off the beaten path you'll run into some perfect beaches that are untouched by Western eyes. It makes for a great "off the beaten path" experience and gives you something to do before nighttime hits.

[chochemonger1]

(05-16-2012 04:50 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Awesome report!

What can you say about the ratio of guys to girls?

Yes Roosh, the key to having a great time in a European beach or resort is finding a good ratio. In my 20s, I did a lot of vacationing during the summer in various greek islands. I didnt have the bankroll I have now or that much game, but for the most part, the best times I had were where the ratios were more women than men. Unfortunately, from what I remember in the Greek Islands, there were mostly, more horny young dudes than young hotties. So Croatia or a beach in the Black Sea sounds like a better idea.

[Richie]

Pretty honest report. Just want to add a few facts...
Carpe Diam is the main bar/club but for me it was a complete nightmare. THis is exactly the sort of bar that presents impossible logistics for picking up women. I could never even make it to the bar it was so ridiculously packed... and hot! Just take a few drinks and chat to the girls spilling out onto the pavement. ALso a bit too much Italian sausage here for my liking.
The club on the island is pretty cool. But unless you get a beach bang its going to be a long night. Most of the girls will stick out till at least 6am. I lost out on a few bangs here because I didn't have the patience through sheer boredom.
Which leads me to my final point. Going solo to these kind of places is a bit DLV in my opinion. Girls are always in 2's or more... its hard to isolate when you are solo. I gamed a really cute macedonian chick but was constantly cock blocked by her friend and guys in 2's who were able to entertain both of them.
When you are supposed to be 'on holiday' going solo just doesnt look or feel right.
I got my flag from a mediocre Norwegian chick but those girls are so easy it barely even counts.
THat being said its a good option for a beach town to go and live it up for a few days!

[Qwest]

(05-16-2012 04:10 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

I can vouch for the validity of this data sheet. There are a ton of girls walking around the main square at all times. The ratio I felt was tipped in favor of women.

One thing I'd suggest is that you don't even need to start in a bar to hit on girls. There are tons of girls who are wandering the central square at all hours of night taking in the beauty of the central square. It's easy to open with a "take my picture" and go from there. I was able to bounce girls into bars from a few minutes of doing this. It's best if you avoid "Yacht Week" there as you'll have spectacular talent at a club like Carpe Diem, but most of that spectacular talent in one way or another is with a dude who sails a yacht into the harbor. Nonetheless, it's still a goldmine for women from around the world who want to party.

Absolutely right about the central square which I didn't even touch on. We did that a couple nights with a bottle of something for ourselves and to offer out to girls, definitely a good alternative to meeting them in the bars. The most activity in the square I found to be 8-11PM when they are shuffling around from dinners and just taking in the early evening beauty before going out. This will be employed heavily this summer as our place is IN the square so we can offer them drinks back at our place, etc.

I also made it a point to befriend a couple of the ballers with yachts, bottle service, etc, if they had a group of women with them. Ignore the women at first so you're not a threat, make the guy feel great about himself and having you around, next thing you know I'm drinking out of his bottle and gaming his women. Just did this at a high end club in Rio as well a couple weeks back and worked a charm. Free drinks + pussy= good times!

(05-17-2012 05:53 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Pretty honest report. Just want to add a few facts...
Carpe Diam is the main bar/club but for me it was a complete nightmare. THis is exactly the sort of bar that presents impossible logistics for picking up women. I could never even make it to the bar it was so ridiculously packed... and hot! Just take a few drinks and chat to the girls spilling out onto the pavement. ALso a bit too much Italian sausage here for my liking.
The club on the island is pretty cool. But unless you get a beach bang its going to be a long night. Most of the girls will stick out till at least 6am. I lost out on a few bangs here because I didn't have the patience through sheer boredom.
Which leads me to my final point. Going solo to these kind of places is a bit DLV in my opinion. Girls are always in 2's or more... its hard to isolate when you are solo. I gamed a really cute macedonian chick but was constantly cock blocked by her friend and guys in 2's who were able to entertain both of them.
When you are supposed to be 'on holiday' going solo just doesnt look or feel right.
I got my flag from a mediocre Norwegian chick but those girls are so easy it barely even counts.
THat being said its a good option for a beach town to go and live it up for a few days!

Carpe Diem was certainly packed, but we didn't have the Italian sausage problem thankfully. I showed up late there, ran game and then tried to leave with them to the next venue. I also had a Croatian SIM card so I was getting #'s to link up later when it didn't quite work out for whatever reason.

In regards to being solo, this won't help you entertain two friends, but can mitigate the DLV and even swing it in your favor. I tell them I am with friends, but they were being lame so you left, now you don't look like the solo vagina predator and in fact will look "cool" in comparison to your imaginary friends. Or say that they are coming tomorrow night and you got there a day early, both should work.

I'm going to also add that you day game as many chicks as possible on the boat ride over and on the beach because odds are you will see them out and about at night. Now you are a fresh familiar face when you see them out and they have been hit on by a bunch of dudes with no game.

[Richie]

(05-17-2012 10:47 AM)Qwest Wrote:  

In regards to being solo, this won't help you entertain two friends, but can mitigate the DLV and even swing it in your favor. I tell them I am with friends, but they were being lame so you left, now you don't look like the solo vagina predator and in fact will look "cool" in comparison to your imaginary friends. Or say that they are coming tomorrow night and you got there a day early, both should work.

Thats exactly what I did Or say they are really hungover so they stayed at home.

[Mentavious]

Anyone been to Zadar? It's on my radar for Mid to late May?

Will there be enough tourist there?
Is the water warm enough to swim in during that period?

[Qwest]

(09-24-2013 09:04 AM)CThunder86 Wrote:  

Anyone been to Zadar? It's on my radar for Mid to late May?

Will there be enough tourist there?
Is the water warm enough to swim in during that period?

You are definitely going EARLY, but come late May there should be some tourists down there (meaning inland Croatians mostly). I suspect the water will just be swimmable at that time, with the temp around 65.

Here you go...

http://www.seatemperature.org/europe/croatia/zadar.htm

[Mentavious]

That's pretty cold. Seems like most students will still be in school.

Might be best if I stick to university cities.

[bojangles]

(09-24-2013 09:04 AM)CThunder86 Wrote:  

Anyone been to Zadar? It's on my radar for Mid to late May?

Will there be enough tourist there?
Is the water warm enough to swim in during that period?

Yep spent quite a bit of time there, its a small quiet town, you daygame for one day and everyone knows about you. It's a lovely relaxing place to be though and there's one magnificent open top bar which is on a hill and has relaxing loungers. I like the city though I prefer Zagreb.

[Mehdi]

Hvar is quite expensive. Vodice also have a very good nightlife, but there is a little bit crowded.

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