[K-man]

I've written about this on several other threads, but I think it deserves its own one.

Considering that the average forum member is not going to pull a Roosh, leave his job, and take months off to move to Europe or Russia so he can rent an apartment and demolish the local pussy, a much better option is to go to the resorts that these girls frequent. Now that summer is approaching, it's a great time to start planning, and of course when you come back I hope you will share with your forum brothers so that we'll have new datasheets.

This is primarily for forum members from Europe - those from the US are probably better off with the beaches in Mexico, Dominicana, etc. which are much closer to them. The time and expense to fly to Europe could make it a non-go for you if it's just for a week's vacation.

Basically, the idea that I've been pitching is that instead of going to a strange city, it's much easier to buy a package in a European beach resort, where all your meals and drinks are included and where diverse girls from EE stay in close proximity to you, making logistics a piece of cake.
Pros:
- Cost-efficient
- Lots of girls from different nationalities
- Girls are in vacation mode; are drunk from the all-inclusive alcohol; don't think about going to work or school the next morning; are not afraid of being judged for being sluts
Cons:
- Lack of cultural experiences
- Lots of dudes who will be competing with you for the pussy available
- Once you go you're stuck there - if it sucks, too bad - you already paid for the whole week.

So, here is where the average EE girl goes on holiday:
- Turkey (prime for players)
- Greece (prime for players, although I'm not too familiar)
- Bulgaria (prime for players)
- Spain - Ibiza, Tenerife, Mallorca - could be good, but expensive, esp. Ibiza. I'm not very familiar.
- Egypt - good in winter, but in summer it's very hot and it's not advisable to go after April-May
- Tunisia - same
- Croatia - could be good, but expensive.

It's very important to choose your hotel carefully. Here is what I have written before previously:

(02-22-2012 03:20 AM)K-man Wrote:  

a good way is to look up a hotel you are considering on Trip Advisor and check out the reviews - if you see mostly UK guys writing, it's a stag destination. If you see Germans/Swedes - that's who you will encounter there. If you see reviews in a language you don't understand, that's probably Russian or Romanian or Czech, and you should seriously consider this hotel.
This method used to be more reliable in the past, but it seems the western travelers are more active in writing reviews so that might not be representative.

A better way is to look at the biggest Russian tour operator that sells holidays in Turkey, Egypt, etc. - this is http://www.teztour.com/
This will give you an idea of what hotels they sell on the Russian market. I just looked up the Bulgarian resort Sunny Beach that I frequent every summer, and they have 30 hotels listed there. There are a total of 300+ hotels in this resort, and now I know which 10% of them will have the highest abundance of Russian pussy. Works the same way for Turkey, Egypt, etc.

Now I've found another great resource, but it only works if you know Russian. It is a Russian hotel review site: http://www.tophotels.ru
First thing that I checked was its list of all hotels in Turkey - I saw right away that some have 0 reviews, while some have 100+ (one has 1,000+ reviews!). That tells me right away if this hotel is frequented by Russian tourists or not, and should be easy to do even if you don't speak Russian. The next level stuff is to check out the reviews themselves. If you can't read them, look at the pictures - ideally you'd pick a hotel with as many pics as possible of this type:



And as few as possible with this type:



Now, some recommendations for hotels where I've personally been and can verify there is Russian pussy to be had.

Turkey
- Kervansaray Lara Hotel, Antalya, Turkey. Banged 2, and if I had stayed the next week I could have probably banged a new one each day, because there started a convention of Russian hairdressers sponsored by some hair color brand. You can imagine how I felt at the sight of busloads of pussy that were unloading at the hotel as I was departing. Just had time to ask one what was going on and that's how I learned about this convention.
If you stay here you are stuck because the only thing closeby are other hotels, which are gated and may not be available to you if you are not a guest. Clubs are an expensive cab ride away. Fortunately, this hotel is 500+ rooms so there should be enough talent.
http://www.tophotels.ru/main/hotel/al16999/

- Orange County Hotel, Kemer, Turkey. Good one for partying because if you can't pull from the hotel, there are some nightclubs in town that get crowds from all hotels, so there is a larger demographic available to you.
http://www.tophotels.ru/main/hotel/al17180/

Bulgaria
I usually stay at the beach house when I go, but I've pulled russian girls from hotels Marvel, Condor and Chaika in Sunny Beach, and from Lilia in Golden Sands. I've pulled from others too, but can't remember their names, as most times it was at the club and not at their hotel. In Bulgaria most beach hotels are close to the nightclubs so you may be doing most of your gaming there, or daytime at the beach. It is rare to have 300-400-500 rooms all-inclusive hotels, but they do exists. Unfortunately, I haven't stayed because I have a beach house. Probably a good option, too.
Besides Russian and Ukrainian girls, lot of Polish girls go to Bulgaria, also Serbian and Macedonian, Czech, and many Scandinavian girls. The latter stay in the hotels around Fenix Hotel in Sunny Beach, and party in H.C. Andersen, Lazur, and Viking.

Greece
Unfortunately, in Greece I've only been to hotels in the Halkidiki area, which is close enough to Bulgaria to drive. These hotels and resorts are mostly family-oriented. I hear the action is happening in the islands. Hope to have Greek Kamaki contribute here.

[Deb Auchery]

Great info!

With regard to Turkey, i was thinking it would cockblock central. But if you are in the hotel then I suppose you would just be fending off the odd horny waiter, or other guests.

For my summer vacation i'm drawn towards Bulgaria, slightly less European tourists, cheaper, higher percentage of Slavic chicks than Greece for example.

I wonder if I can get a hotel with a monthly rate

[The Fantasist]

Hotel with plenty of Russians you say? Check out the 'Kremlin Palace Hotel' in Turkey. Something about the place tells me it might be aimed at Russians tourists but I just can't put my finger on why,erm....

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[The Fantasist]

Damn,they even built the Lenin museum,bonkers.

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[K-man]

I took a walk in the grounds of this one, it is close by in Lara/Antalya to where I stayed. You can access it from the beach, but the streetside is gated.
Yes, there was a lot of Russian pussy. Many were teens with their Moms, though. Major jail bait.
Hotel is huge, 800 rooms I think, and the one next to it (TopKapi Palace) is linked, so you have 2x the people that use the same facilities (night clubs, restaurants, etc.).
Should be good, but a week there costs 7-800 EUR in high season.

[The Fantasist]

800 EUR for a week is not too bad if it's all inc. as I expect it has excellent food and facilities.

What about just hitting places like the Crimea or Anapa i.e resorts in the countries themselves? I wonder if the dynamic would work differently there in terms of getting bangs.

[slubu]

K-man, what type of timeframe do you recommend for this? I'm thinking of spending 4-6 weeks somewhere in EE as a test run to see if I can maintain my job abroad. I'd need to work a few hours a day, so reliable internet is a must. But more importantly, do you think this will still work for a 1 month or so stay or is this more suited for a week type thing?

[Greek kamaki]

In Greece Russian and Ukrainian women flow mostly to Rhodes and Kreta(this year we have an increase by 50% or more and about one million tourists from Russia are expected).I see more and more Russians after lifting the visa restrictions.

[Soma]

For completeness, here's a link to Greek kamaki's Greek islands data sheet.

[Deb Auchery]

(05-10-2012 09:41 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

800 EUR for a week is not too bad if it's all inc. as I expect it has excellent food and facilities.

What about just hitting places like the Crimea or Anapa i.e resorts in the countries themselves? I wonder if the dynamic would work differently there in terms of getting bangs.

From what i've heard about Crimea, Ukrainians prefer to go to Bulgaria, standards are low and prices higher in Crimea

[Greek kamaki]

I was in Crimea last summer although the quality is unbelievable(only beautiful girls level much higher than average in Ukraine,Russia) I do not really recommend the place since most girls come either with boyfriends or with families.It is not a hook up place.No sure about Yevpatoria though(the place where most parties take place with the best nightlife).

[BalkanCynic]

I yevpatoria during the day, its all families and couples. But after 9pm the main street is filled with Russian girls ready to hit the clubs. Go there instead of that kazantip shit.

[K-man]

@Vorkuta - I'm not saying 800 EUR is going to break a player's bank, but it is above the average.
There are beach hotels in Turkey like Mardan Palace where a week is 1k+ (or 2,3,4k depending on the type of room/suite). However, only ballers go there.
Ideally, you want a middle class place which costs like 4-500 EUR/week all inclusive - they still have good amenities and food, and are affordable to working girls from Moscow and Peter.
There is also a lower end type of hotel where a week is 200-300: some in Turkey, more in Bulgaria. There you can find Ukrainians, Belorussian, and girls from smaller towns in Russia.

@Slubu - anywhere from June to September. July-August are peak.

@Greek, Soma - I've read the Greek Islands datasheet and it's good, but it says there some hotels focus on Brits, some on Germans, etc. Here we could have tips on which hotels and places have EE/Russian pussy, if anyone has been there personally.

[Greek kamaki]

I have seen lots of Russians in Rhodes town and Lindos.I am going this summer for a reality check I heard that thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have already arrived and made their appearance in Rhodes city central clubs.

[ManAbout]

What about renting a place for the summer, or maybe just for a month, in either Turkey or Rhodes?

[trock]

wow, i'm impressed with this information. very informative.

[sipahi]

Any updates on Turkey?

[Roosh]

I'm curious too.

Anyone been to Alanya this year?

[Greek kamaki]

In Turkey I have been only in Istanbul and I have noticed whole lot of Russian and Ukrainian chicks.It is a goldmine.A heavy difference between Russian girls in Turkey and Greece is that Russian girls who visit Greece develop very soon bitch shields and become very sly while Russian girls in Turkey appear too innocent and unspoiled.Although Turkish men are great liars but they do not have this certain effect Greek guys have.(the roughness,above all mentality,greed).
In Turkey I would visit Marmaris(opposite to Rhodos),Bodrum(opposite to Kos) or Kemer,Alanya(opposite to Cyprus).Greek guys who went there pulled with ease they said competition to Turkish guys was ridiculous although they got evil eyes.Turkish are in general very primitive very manly no gay quality.They are also slow thinkers and very predictable.Many Greeks sympathize with Turks.

Also the hotel choice is not very important in Greece since all chicks visit clubs in the night and you can enter every hotel you wish to if you plan to.In Turkey and in some regard also in Bulgaria is more imporrtant to choose the right hotel since hotel area is way extended and not concentrated close to a central club-beach place as in Greece or Cyprus and there is the habit of all inclusive meaning lots and lots of girls have no reason for leaving hotel at all since disco,free drinks,beach,pool etc are in the hotel.Another difference is that Bulgaria,Turkey are considered LDV places opposite to Greece,Italy,Spain,France so the chicks do not want so much to mingle with locals etc visiting local discos etc.Foe example in Sunny Beach I hardly saw any Russian chicks in discos although they were in mass in the beach.On Kreta Russian women visited the discos because they regarded them high class.

[Orson]

(05-10-2012 12:00 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

In Greece Russian and Ukrainian women flow mostly to Rhodes and Kreta(this year we have an increase by 50% or more and about one million tourists from Russia are expected).I see more and more Russians after lifting the visa restrictions.

YES, I may hit Crete by the first of October. AFTER party season, I know, but what the F - yeah! Use it as a staging area on the North side for party-hardy finding. And go the Mykonos and Santorini if that fails.

Win-win, I say.

I have noticed the same thing our thread-author has - how online reviews reveal the clientele. And we can use it to our advantage to find playmates!

[diego69]

I used to visit all such resorts places in Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria but alas nothing compares to visit the EE countries themselves if pussy is what on your mind.
Holiday spots have mainly cons:
* No royalty effect, many foreign dudes around.
* High competition.
* EE girl are less likely for ONS, even on vacation.
* Higher costs than visit to EE country.
Result: Low chance to bang, waste too much money.

Just go to Poland, Romania, Czech or Ukraine, head for a vacation city there like Sopot, Odessa if you wish the beach as well.