[HiFlo]

If I am sober, I can't last for more than 3-5 minutes after penetration (Drunk it's about an hour).

What I usually do is pop a viagra about 30 minutes before. That way I don't lose my boner and can keep going and going. Actually, you do become a bit soft after you pop, but you can still keep pumping away in a semi-rigid state. For about 3-5 minutes during this semi-rigid refractory period it's a bit unpleasant - I don't want to keep having sex and my dick is sensitive, but I take it like a champ. The girls' are none the wiser and none have ever noticed my coming. 5 minutes later, the V has gotten accelerated the refractory period and I'm hard as rock again. After this it takes me about 60-90 min to ejaculate the next time.

I don't like using Viagra as a crutch because what happens if I'm in a situation without access to my stash? The same goes for masturbating before - sometimes you can't rub one off in order to prepare for impulsive sex in the spur of the moment. Also, V costs about $3.25/pill, which isn't much (cheaper than a beer in a shitty bar) but still adds up over time.

I don't jackhammer for the first 3-5 min either, but take it pretty slow and gradual. I've tried visualization tricks, thinking about work & stuff instead, but that doesn't slow down the first climax either.

Any suggestions on how to be a sex god without chemical dependence? hahahaha

[YoungGunner]

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-5725.h...ht=sex+god

already a thread on this (with the same title)

[HiFlo]

Yeah, that threads more about techniques & provides lots of great info.

My question is lasting longer without chemical help.

[YoungGunner]

o in that case:

Posturing up
breathing more slowly
changing positions often
shoving it all the way in and leaving it there for a few seconds
kegel exercises

[j r]

^this, plus:

condoms
booze
when you sense the moment is starting to approach, exhale slowly. there's something about the expansion of the diaphragm that helps bring you back from the edge.

[Gmac]

Kegel exercises: http://www.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_60...e_tip.html

[HiFlo]

I understand what kegels are and have practiced them, but how do you apply them?

Are you supposed to start doing kegels when you're having sex? Just when you're about to cum? Do you just give one or two big squeezes and that's that or do them for 60 seconds when you're fucking away? Or are they not supposed to even be used when you're having sex?

[AntiTrace]

Im also curious about kegels. I have done them before but like HiFlo I dont really understand how to apply.

Normally I can last all day, to the point where I bring a gallon jug of water to the bed, so Ill add what I can.

1. Posture - Spread those legs out. Its been said that the closer your legs are to each other, the more pressure is put on your testicles making them more sensitive.

2. Change positions - you probably know which positions feel the best for you, use those last. Im not a fan of missionary, so I normally start that way or go back to it if I am getting close and dont want to cum. If its a repeat bang, you should know what positions she likes, again use these last. The wetter the female gets the faster I cum, so I try not to start hitting her spots for at least 10 minutes or more.

3. Pre-game - unload the gun before you know your going to get some. Don't make this a habit, but it can help in those clutch first-time situations where you need to throw down some Class-A piping.

4. Relax your muscles - I don't know if this for everyone, but the more tensed my muscles (especially my legs) the fast I come. Combine this with good posture of keeping your legs wide.

5. Condoms - I rarely wrap up, but when I do I go as thin as possible. Get thicker ones to last longer.

6. Stop Fucking! - if your close, stop all your movements. If you catch yourself fast enough you might buy a couple extra minutes.

7. Tease her with the tip - your getting close. pull out and use the tip to rub her clit. Make her beg you to put it back in.

8. Just cum - I guess im pretty lucky in that I dont have a cooldown period. My dick stays hard after I get off. If you get off too quick, take a breather and stick it back in.

The whole point is to give the lizard an orgasm. A 64 year old player I know told me "The orgasm is like the 'boss' in a video game. Youve put in all the hard work to get there. To beat the level and move on to the next, you gotta slay that boss."

I dont care what a female says. If you didn't make her cum all you did was disappoint her (repeat bang excluded)

[Gmac]

(05-09-2012 01:49 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  

I understand what kegels are and have practiced them, but how do you apply them?

Are you supposed to start doing kegels when you're having sex? Just when you're about to cum? Do you just give one or two big squeezes and that's that or do them for 60 seconds when you're fucking away? Or are they not supposed to even be used when you're having sex?

If you understood what kegel exercises (not "kegels") were you wouldn't be asking.

The whole point is to gain better control over your ejaculation and erections.

How does it make you last longer? Most guys are squeezing their PC muscles during sex because they're excited and/or want to be that little bit harder (literally). Usually they're also inexperienced or never learned to control their orgasms.

The problem with that is you lose all control. Kegel exercises fixes the problem by making you more comfortable when you contract the muscles.

Quote:

Practice these Kegel exercises for men
Controlling ejaculation is a huge issue for many men, one that they are often too embarrassed to bring up. How do I control myself? How can I last longer, be firmer and do better? The answer is working out your pubococcygeus muscles (PC) muscles, by doing Kegel exercises for men.

PC muscles control the flow of semen and urine, the firmness of your penis during erection and the shooting power of your ejaculation. They are important, and if kept very strong, will see you into your golden years with a fantastical hard on. The great thing about Kegel exercises for men is that you can do them anywhere, anytime -- and nobody will know the difference.

You will be able to have better sex by being able to better control your orgasms and ejaculations, and last for longer, plus you may get the added kudos of being able to hold up a wet towel with your erection if you practice these Kegel exercises for men.

kegel session 1
Exercise A
Sets: 3
Quickly clench and release repeatedly for 10 seconds.

Take a 10-second break between sets.

Exercise B
Sets: 10
Clench and release repeatedly for 5 seconds.

Take a 5-second break between sets.

Exercise C
Sets: 3
Tighten and hold your PC muscle for 30 seconds.

Take a 30 second break between sets.

That’s it for today, but repeat these Kegel exercises for men daily for one week.

That aside, if you are having trouble cumming quickly, make sure you're wearing condoms (try a couple different brands). Make sure you're not overly excited mentally. If you are, take a few seconds to relax. Think about baseball or grandma if you have to. Change positions often or stop completely. Unless you prove otherwise, chicks generally think you know what you're doing as long as you take control, so she won't think anything is up.

[HiFlo]

(05-09-2012 02:22 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

If you understood what kegel exercises (not "kegels") were you wouldn't be asking.

How does it make you last longer? Most guys are squeezing their PC muscles during sex because they're excited and/or want to be that little bit harder (literally). Usually they're also inexperienced or never learned to control their orgasms.

The problem with that is you lose all control. Kegel exercises fixes the problem by making you more comfortable when you contract the muscles.

???
So do you do kegel contractions during sex to prolong it? On the one hand you say that most guys squeeze their PC muscles because they're excited, but on the other hand kegels make you more comfortable when you contract the muscles? I'm confused man...

[Gmac]

Did you read anything I just wrote? Simply contracting them harder isn't the key. The key is the control you gain from doing the exercises.

[Hotwheels]

If I feel like I'm gonna dump my load before I want to I start thinking about other things. Things like picking up dog poo, screaming brats, how interesting the ceiling fan looks, etc...

Works every time.

[Walnuts]

In my experience it's all about how excited and nervous you are.
We all remember that first time we got laid at 15 where we bust in like 11 seconds flat.

If you calm down a little and maintain a manly frame of mind you'll notice a big difference. Try to get slightly angry is the best way I can describe it. It's hard to explain. I almost never bust when I don't want to anymore, cant remember the last time it happened.
If you need me to clarify anything just ask.

[Richie]

Same here. A few beers and I can pound away all night long like a porn star. Without it I have to concentrate a little. (maybe thats half the problem?)
When I am in a long term relationship and having very regular sex it is not so much a problem. But thats because I am always half empty.
Pesonaly I do not think kegels work. Tensing that muscle makes me want to cum so I dont know how giving it a work out is going to help. 'Reverse kegels' is basicly just relaxing that muscle when you feel you are about to cum. It really works but its hard to control during actual sex.
Women on top is always easier to control. Annoyingly I prefer being on top.

Walnuts, I think I know what you mean. When I have confidence and show a bit of dominance I relax a little. Sometimes if I talk a little dirty it also helps. It's definately not a 100% thing for me though. its so hit and miss I can never put my finger on it.

[Sargon of Akkad]

What I normally do is add and subtract three to four-digit numbers in my head. This gets my mind of sex for a moment, thereby lowering my level of excitement. For example:
2354 + 768,
567-2345,
8901+4325

other than that, pulling out and squeezing for a few seconds also helps...

[FretDancer]

What's your age? If you are a young man, you should really consider stop taking Viagra. Do you really want to rely on that to have great sex for the rest of your life?

Also, you want to become a sex God while also enjoying the sex, so those "count # sheeps" is garbage.

What you gotta do is train your mind. As soon as you are about to blow, stop completely, wait for a while. You can do other stuff with your hands and mouth while you wait to keep going again.

It is easier to become a sex god with a trusted intimate partner (IS THAT BETA???) because each time you have more sex you can connect better at this level, this means that she knows exactly as well when she should stop riding you like crazy.

[assman]

I think squeezing one out before meeting up with a girl is crazy. The feeling of sliding into a wet pussy when you are at peak horniness is such an amazing feeling. And you would deny yourself that, for what? To pleasure her a little longer? Is this beta? YES!

When I feel I'm getting too close and want to last longer, I'll pull out and squeeze down on what I guess is the kegel muscle. Keeping it in her pussy and squeezing doesn't work for me - too much stimulation.

Some good tips in this thread. Thinking about other things doesn't work all that well for me, because my mind is always coming back to the sensations. But I like the math problems idea and will try it out.

An easy way to prolong things is to pull out and have her suck your cock. Sometimes I'll just take a break and get some water.

[Beyond Borders]

(05-09-2012 03:58 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  

???
So do you do kegel contractions during sex to prolong it? On the one hand you say that most guys squeeze their PC muscles because they're excited, but on the other hand kegels make you more comfortable when you contract the muscles? I'm confused man...

You do them before. When sitting at home or in your car or at your desk at work, etc.

Honestly, if you need to ask, you haven't researched them enough, so go do that. But you can basically think of it as taking your pecker to the gym; it's an exercise you do to shape up.

The results of a solid "workout plan" can be pretty unreal.

[Screwston]

Walnuts and Richie - I think y'all made me realize the secret. Sometimes I can last forever and sometimes 2 minutes. I always thought I was busting faster with sexy girls, but I don't think that's always the case. I go a lot longer and harder when I'm talking all kinds of shit, pulling her hair, and slapping her around. I guess I focus a lot more on the pussy and how good it feels when I'm quiet. Great posts players!!

A nice alcohol buzz will help you last longer.

[Walnuts]

Lol no problem Houston.

Just think in your mind "I fucking own this pussy, its mine and I'm gonna pound the shit out of it wether she likes it or not, I'm gonna break this bitch in half".
You really have to feel dominant, powerful and in control. That is key.

I'm not advocating rape of any kind but some girls have been telling me "baby stop your hurting meee, don't go so hard", meanwhile I'm in idgaf mode so I keep doing my thing and not even 2 seconds later the bitch is all "yess yess YESS" and starts grinding back against my dick. Some girls like it rough and like when you don't listen to them and have your own way. Sort of like a weird shit test.

You have to look at what she actually DOES rather than what she says. If she really doesn't like it, she'll push you off physically. Unless she's a virgin then go really slowly. If she's a run of the mill slut you pretty much do whatever you want because it's not a nervous experience for her and she'll be more used to sex.
This rough powerful thing works especially well on girls with daddy issues that crave a strong man and want to be dominated. So if you find out she was raised by a single mother, go for the rough dominating sex. She craves a strong male figure.

From what I've heard from girls, a lot of guys aren't holding it down in the bedroom, if you can be that guy that made her legs shake like Muhammed Ali trying to brush his teeth, she will always come back for more.

[Stitch]

Particularly with a condom, I'm finding that I almost have to work to bring myself to orgasm; it's not that I don't enjoy the sex tremendously, but by now I have to make a conscious effort. It pays off in terms of pleasing the woman, though I have to think she's getting the better end of the deal sometimes (though this is fine by me... I get a lot of enjoyment out of that rather than just busting a nut, as it were). One of the dubious benefits of aging and/or condom use, I suppose.

Still, should probably invest in Kegel exercises again. I did it once for a period, and that did seem to help a bit (both in control and, ah, "projection").

[MidniteSpecial]

One word. Edging. And a little jelqing.