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Thoughts on Tooling Girls
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Thoughts on Tooling Girls

I'd like to know what the community thinks about tooling girls.

Personally, I see nothing really wrong with it as long as the girl deserves it. It amazes me to see the kind of things girls get away with every day, and not just the really attractive ones; girls even at or just above the basic threshold of attractiveness get away with murder, why? Because most men let them. Why shouldn't we get to flip the script on girls? Isn't it exactly that which game teaches you to do?

But at the same time I can see that some might say that tooling a girl (or setting out to do so) is a way of valuing a girl and therefore inherently Beta, that's fine. Game isn't a one-off thing and everyone has a different take.

In my opinion, tooling a girl is Alpha if anything; it's like saying 'How does it feel, bitch?' with a shiteating smirk on your face. Plus, in the real world there are consequences, but this is something that most women don't seem to grasp, and tooling is one way to do that. I can admit comfortably that if I had a nickel for every time a girl tooled me I'd have a villa in Spain, it's a part of the curve.

I'm making this post because I have a tooling coming up that is going to be absolutely epic. I'm not going to detail how exactly I plan to tool her, but I'll give you a clue; what is the reaction women fear the most from men, and when is the absolute worst time it can happen? If you're perceptive you know likely what I plan to do and how it'll go over. Fucking evil, isn't it?

And I don't do this shit every day, but read the story and you'll agree that it's necessary. I'm a pragmatist when it comes to dealing with women; if I can make just one girl think twice about treating men like commodities whose time and effort don't matter, then I've made the world a better place.

The background:

'Andi' and I met like this, and if you read that thread, my opinion on Classroom Game (I don't much care for it) is sort of shaped by meeting her. She was attractive but not stunning (6.5-7.5, I grade on a range instead of an absolute, topic forthcoming). It was the way she dressed and carried herself, and admittedly I was drawn in by her confidence and uncommon intelligence, and most importantly her very obscure and deadpan sense of humor. It didn't hurt that I later found out she had family money too.

For those keeping tabs, a girl with a sense of humor not rooted in sarcasm is rarer than a 9. A 7 with the intangibles she had is equal to an 8 with no intangibles.

Logistics were a nightmare from day one; she was dating a guy she met the week before class (honeymoon phase) and I was concurrently seeing a couple of other girls. Still, I got the number, the email, all the pertinent data and all that and we even hung a few times. I went to her place one night and her parents were there so all I could do was try to kiss her, and even though she rebuffed she was actually really cool about it and so was I, it was like nothing ever happened, my game didn't take a hit and continued unabated.

Let me be Beta for a second and admit to a bit of oneitis (for the record I'm roughly a top-end Beta/entry-level Alpha with legit Alpha looks). I was seeing other girls, but she was the one I wanted, and for a girlfriend and not just a notch. Fun as it is to bang young whores all day, it's not as good as a good relationship with a quality woman. She was cute and she was actually pretty fun to just hang out with and talk to, which is basically the girlfriend prerequisite. Still though, I had too much going on to draw up some Machiavellian scheme to defeat her boyfriend, so at the end of the year I went home and kept in touch with the odd call or SMS, she was always happy to hear from me.

Summertime, looking for and finding a job and keeping up with my friends and the girls in my area (we're like 3 hours apart), I just lost track until I heard through the grapevine that her and BF boy broke up. I call her the next day and we make plans for a few weeks in the future. I can practically hear her blushing through my cellular.

My boy 'Brad' is in the game and calls me up the very next day. He says he has a potentially lucrative 'job' that he needs a driver for. I can make anything from $1500 to 5 G's for twenty minutes of work. I have a good job and my family has money, but who couldn't use the extra cash? I'd like to take a second to thank MPM for this wonderful list. All I have to do is sit in my car and wait for a call. It's clocked the same day I have plans with this girl...gut-check time.

Never go against your gut. I decide to make the long drive to see her...big mistake. Guess what? She flakes on me, just like that, throwing up all kinds of bullshit rationale while not really giving a fuck that I had to go out of my way to meet her. I shoot her an SMS saying that unless she's serious about me that I never want to hear from her again. In reality this was a game-changing moment for me; it was here that I truly learned to never treat someone as a priority when they treat you as an option and my game has strengthened as a result.

I get home, Brad tells me that he made $4800 and if I stuck around I would have got 50% of that, even better that it was made with no shots fired. Everyone here has had a girl flake on them, has anyone had a flake that cost you $2400? Doubtful (MPM?).

The months roll by, I'm down in her area visiting friends and I run into her. God, she looks like she aged two years over the summer, and she needs to put on about ten pounds, and she's back with her ex (I dislike people who settle). She acts like nothing happened, I keep the facade up and we exchange a few pleasantries before we both leave on our way.

That was almost three months ago. Two days ago out of the blue I get a text from her asking when I'm in town next, saying 'we should watch a movie at my place' (translation: I'd rather make a movie than watch one.), I just now replied, 'I'll let you know.', it'll be a few weekends from now, since one girl in particular I want to see is also wanting me to come down before Christmas (a prettier, younger girl). The tooling will commence that weekend, and this broad will have no idea what hit her when it's executed.

So preamble aside, what do you guys think of tooling girls when they deserve it? As you can see I'm an advocate when the situation calls for it, but it's not something you can do often (unless you want a bad rep).

Discuss.

PS - Re-reading this post I can see at least seven places where I fucked up. There's no need for it to be dissected.

NP
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#2

Thoughts on Tooling Girls

I think revenge is sweet. Good luck.
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My brother,

She already cost you $2400. Plus the time it took you to write this stuff.

And the time it took ME to write this.

Forget about the girl and get Brad on the horn and see what he's got cooking.

Aloha!
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I agree with Kona, but if you want to really "get her" I'd say bring your girl to her house to watch the movie. Not only will it frazzle her, it will help get you laid with the girl you bring.
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Kona
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My brother,

She already cost you $2400. Plus the time it took you to write this stuff.

And the time it took ME to write this.

Forget about the girl and get Brad on the horn and see what he's got cooking.

Aloha!

Summer scheme season is over (We get 6 months of nice weather and 6 of shitty, frigid cold where I live...'You mean we can't shake this guy down until you get snow tires on? Lame...'). For reasons I can't detail, Brad lost his car and has been out west since October.

Yeah she fucked me over there, but it was really my own stupidity and blindness that cost me $2400, never again. I guess this is also part life-lesson; if you're passing up cash for ass, always a) Guarantee that ass and b) Make sure it's worth at least what you passed up.

UgSlayer
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I agree with Kona, but if you want to really "get her" I'd say bring your girl to her house to watch the movie. Not only will it frazzle her, it will help get you laid with the girl you bring.

In theory this is right, but the parameters of the situation aren't. Everything that can be more physically attractive about a girl, new girl has a distinct edge in (prettier face, nicer hair, taller, bigger tits, tighter ass, longer legs, better dresser...that she's younger and less headstrong is gravy at this point). While it'd be fun to see the reaction, it's also counterproductive in this case.

It'd be like Muhammad Ali vs. Some kid with Down Syndrome; unnecessary first round TKO publicity stunt. You can explain everything game-related with a good sports analogy.


Girls are strange creatures. There's no loyalty among them; no 'bros before hos' ('sistas before mistas'?), they live in the bubble of their own shallow world and make decisions based on what they feel, which is why so many of them routinely make bad, fucked up decisions.

I hate to agree with the Beta white-knights who hate on the neg hit, but they're sort of right in one regard; if you present a woman with two choices, one good and one bad, 98% of the time they'll pick the bad one. Why? Because the bad one probably 'feels' right. Something either is right or it isn't, it doesn't 'feel' right.

Tooling serves to remind them of how harmful this process is (my message in this case is 'I'm a man so therefore my time and effort >>>>>>>>> your time and effort, too bad you didn't learn it until now.'). I can't lie and say I feel bad about what I plan to do, but really and truly I'm actually kind of pumped up to do it*.

I actively encourage men everywhere to do one act to a woman (if the chance arises**) that's so emotionally damaging that it gives them some perspective on their own crazyness. They'll hate you for it until they love you for it.

* - Still not sure 100% if I plan to follow through, maybe I'll bang her a few times and never call her again, not as damaging but more fun.

** - Remember; I told this broad to never contact me again and she did.
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Look Brah,

I'm all about the other fish in the sea.

However, it sounds like you have something in your brain that says you need to get back at this girl. I'm all for that too. Whatever it takes to make you happy.

What I do with girls that get mouthy or flakey is give them a good throat caressing. I've read Roosh talking about the best way to get the call back is to make the pussy sore. The best way not to get it, and come out on top is to leave her with a sore jawbone.

Wipe away any excess with her hair. Be sure to thank her, that really gets them.

Aloha!
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Forget about her and don't look back. She won.. who cares. Now move on.
In the end tooling her would just tool yourself as you're still putting energy into her.
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Fucking with girls is good. Just don't go out of your way to do it. But it sounds like you'd have to at this point, so quit.

Your main mistake was not determining whether the girl actually wanted to fuck you. You let her toy with you. Avoid this by doing things on your terms. For future girls, if you're in doubt, make her come to your house. Make her drive to see you. If she's not willing to do those things, absent some legit logistical issue, she's probably attention whoring. And she'd respect you less for bending to her will.

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but if you want to really "get her" I'd say bring your girl to her house to watch the movie. Not only will it frazzle her, it will help get you laid with the girl you bring.

There's the notion in pickup circles that "Social Proof is EVERYTHING," "Let her know YOU F*** HOT BABES." In reality, if it's anything less than subtle, it'll backfire. Girls don't actually like the idea of you banging other girls while you're courting them. This stratagem is retarded. Especially in your case, where the new girl is hotter, and might like you less after seeing you with an uglier girl. "Guess he's not as cool as I thought." Unless you're obviously a lot higher value than a girl, she tends to think you get with girls about as hot she is, whether she's a 7 or a 9. Her expectations are even higher if you're good looking.
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