[Basil Ransom]

Funny thing is, Greystone used to be all black. Except it was some other club, same venue. It's near my friend's place, and I remember passing by once or twice and noticing that everyone there was black, upscale, and it's not a black area at all.

Yeah the thing with white girls is there isn't much competition:
Hispanic girls - hot ones don't exist in great numbers in LA.
Asian & black girls - most non-Asian and non-black guys, respectively, aren't that into them. Plus Asians tend to come in these big mixed groups that don't mingle much with outsiders.
Persian girls - annoying and materialistic as fuck, and usually very tribal.
Jewish girls - can be cute, but rarely hot
Indian girls - lol, not even gonna try

Armenian girls can be hot with tolerable personalities. Maybe Philipinos too, haven't seen enough. But we all know that nothing screams status like a gaggle of tall thin blonde girls. Nothing else shines brighter or makes a bigger statement.

Speakeasy, awesome link. Still reading it.

Quote:

Eventually they start selling bottle service to Persians, bankers, and guys who live at home with their parents and lease their car so they can buy bottles at the club.

Completely redundant.

I'm gonna have to devour that blog. This guy speaks truth:

Quote:

Don’t get me wrong. I love nightlife. It can be a lot of fun and it has its place. As much as I poke fun I think it’s great to go out with your friends and have a great time, have a few drinks, and meet some attractive strangers. I’d go so far as to even defend it as a good place to meet people. Let me tell you, it’s a hell of a lot easier to go to a place filled with attractive girls and find the few interesting, smart, or substantial women there than to go to a place where supposedly more substantial or intelligent women go (let’s say, a professional mixer) and try to find the 1 attractive girl (let me clue you in….there aren’t any). I even have a friend who tried going to church to try to meet a normal girl …and he was fucking atheist!

It's so rare to see honest social commentary like this, that when I see it, I'm like "FINALLY. I wasn't just fucking crazy!" Stuff like this is kept completely off the airwaves, out of "polite conversation."

[slubu]

Just to echo what others have said, in my experience the clubs go from:

1. Attractive white girls
2. Average white girls
3. Persian girls
4. Asian girls
5. Mexican/black girls
6. The end

[speakeasy]

(05-05-2012 02:03 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Funny thing is, Greystone used to be all black. Except it was some other club, same venue. It's near my friend's place, and I remember passing by once or twice and noticing that everyone there was black, upscale, and it's not a black area at all.

Yeah the thing with white girls is there isn't much competition:
Hispanic girls - hot ones don't exist in great numbers in LA.
Asian & black girls - most non-Asian and non-black guys, respectively, aren't that into them. Plus Asians tend to come in these big mixed groups that don't mingle much with outsiders.
Persian girls - annoying and materialistic as fuck, and usually very tribal.
Jewish girls - can be cute, but rarely hot
Indian girls - lol, not even gonna try

Armenian girls can be hot with tolerable personalities. Maybe Philipinos too, haven't seen enough. But we all know that nothing screams status like a gaggle of tall thin blonde girls. Nothing else shines brighter or makes a bigger statement.

Speakeasy, awesome link. Still reading it.

Quote:

Eventually they start selling bottle service to Persians, bankers, and guys who live at home with their parents and lease their car so they can buy bottles at the club.

Completely redundant.

I'm gonna have to devour that blog. This guy speaks truth:

Quote:

Don’t get me wrong. I love nightlife. It can be a lot of fun and it has its place. As much as I poke fun I think it’s great to go out with your friends and have a great time, have a few drinks, and meet some attractive strangers. I’d go so far as to even defend it as a good place to meet people. Let me tell you, it’s a hell of a lot easier to go to a place filled with attractive girls and find the few interesting, smart, or substantial women there than to go to a place where supposedly more substantial or intelligent women go (let’s say, a professional mixer) and try to find the 1 attractive girl (let me clue you in….there aren’t any). I even have a friend who tried going to church to try to meet a normal girl …and he was fucking atheist!

It's so rare to see honest social commentary like this, that when I see it, I'm like "FINALLY. I wasn't just fucking crazy!" Stuff like this is kept completely off the airwaves, out of "polite conversation."

I'm actually reading further through the blog right now myself. It's full of more real talk than I've seen in awhile. Too bad that guy stopped blogging.

He had the rationalization hamster thing down a few years ago: http://confessionsofahollywoodpromoter.b...ility.html
http://confessionsofahollywoodpromoter.b...dance.html

[speakeasy]

[speakeasy]

(05-05-2012 06:01 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(05-05-2012 02:03 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Funny thing is, Greystone used to be all black. Except it was some other club, same venue. It's near my friend's place, and I remember passing by once or twice and noticing that everyone there was black, upscale, and it's not a black area at all.

Yeah the thing with white girls is there isn't much competition:
Hispanic girls - hot ones don't exist in great numbers in LA.
Asian & black girls - most non-Asian and non-black guys, respectively, aren't that into them. Plus Asians tend to come in these big mixed groups that don't mingle much with outsiders.
Persian girls - annoying and materialistic as fuck, and usually very tribal.
Jewish girls - can be cute, but rarely hot
Indian girls - lol, not even gonna try

Armenian girls can be hot with tolerable personalities. Maybe Philipinos too, haven't seen enough. But we all know that nothing screams status like a gaggle of tall thin blonde girls. Nothing else shines brighter or makes a bigger statement.

Speakeasy, awesome link. Still reading it.

Quote:

Eventually they start selling bottle service to Persians, bankers, and guys who live at home with their parents and lease their car so they can buy bottles at the club.

Completely redundant.

I'm gonna have to devour that blog. This guy speaks truth:

Quote:

Don’t get me wrong. I love nightlife. It can be a lot of fun and it has its place. As much as I poke fun I think it’s great to go out with your friends and have a great time, have a few drinks, and meet some attractive strangers. I’d go so far as to even defend it as a good place to meet people. Let me tell you, it’s a hell of a lot easier to go to a place filled with attractive girls and find the few interesting, smart, or substantial women there than to go to a place where supposedly more substantial or intelligent women go (let’s say, a professional mixer) and try to find the 1 attractive girl (let me clue you in….there aren’t any). I even have a friend who tried going to church to try to meet a normal girl …and he was fucking atheist!

It's so rare to see honest social commentary like this, that when I see it, I'm like "FINALLY. I wasn't just fucking crazy!" Stuff like this is kept completely off the airwaves, out of "polite conversation."

I'm actually reading further through the blog right now myself. It's full of more real talk than I've seen in awhile. Too bad that guy stopped blogging.

He had the rationalization hamster thing down a few years ago: http://confessionsofahollywoodpromoter.b...ility.html
http://confessionsofahollywoodpromoter.b...dance.html

@Basilransom

I just ran across another blog in the same vein as this one above. It's not frequently updated but there's some gems in there.

http://bottleserviceisfortourist.blogspot.com/

[Basil Ransom]

(08-11-2012 01:43 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

@Basilransom

I just ran across another blog in the same vein as this one above. It's not frequently updated but there's some gems in there.

http://bottleserviceisfortourist.blogspot.com/

Nice. Funny clip there. Although in real life, if he said "I'd tear that ass up" in that context, she'd immediately get disgusted. You can say that as a white guy ironically, not as a black guy earnestly.

That blog had a good post about how women suck as promoters.

From the blog: "Once the rappers and professional athletes started to make it their home, all the hot girls stop coming."

Sounds like he's talking about black guys. It's kind of strange. When I've been in venues where it's very white, the average black guy is cooler than the average white guy. These are guys who can kick it with anyone, are socially connected and have lots of popular white friends.

But when there are lots of black guys (and presumably Latino guys), the hottest white girls get turned off and stop coming. Do they stop coming because they don't feel comfortable when a scene gets too non-white? Or is it because when more minority guys come, the new minority dudes tend to have bad game that scares off the white girls? Probably a bit of both. More of the latter with athletes and rappers who've never had to conform to white circles to get invited and so on.

If a guy is not cool but he's not approaching, it's not terrible, people won't feel it much. But if he does approach a lot, he'll be downright irritating. In other words, if you have to have an uncool guy at your party, you're better off if he's introverted, than if he's going around actively pissing people off. An uncool extrovert is the absolute worst. The collective perception is that black guys approach more - so if you have black guys with bad game running around hollering at girls, it's going to be a lot more disruptive than a couple lame white or Asian dudes huddling in the corner.

I also wonder if some of these hot girls rub shoulders with celebrities so much that their status ceases to matter - it's just the new normal for them. So if a dude is running bad game on them, even if he's on the Lakers, she won't cut him any slack.

The blog mentions Brent Bolthouse as an owner capable of pulling hot ass to his venues. Bolthouse opened the Bungalow, and it does have pretty good talent. Next time I'm there, I'm gonna ask girls what led them to come there, gain some insight on how these A-list promoters and owners get talent through their doors.

[Sebastian]

The thing is even minorities don't want to see other minorities in a bar, club.
I was at a club with a minority friend. There were more minorities than it used to be that night.
We were saying 'damn, too many immigrants here'. We laughed at the fact we were one of them too.

I live in 90% white state. So my major customers are white. I can't control who walks in. However, when there are many ethnic group of customers, white people will feel uncomfortable and they won't come back.

[speakeasy]

(08-11-2012 06:10 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

The thing is even minorities don't want to see other minorities in a bar, club.
I was at a club with a minority friend. There were more minorities than it used to be that night.
We were saying 'damn, too many immigrants here'. We laughed at the fact we were one of them too.

I live in 90% white state. So my major customers are white. I can't control who walks in. However, when there are many ethnic group of customers, white people will feel uncomfortable and they won't come back.

That's a little ridiculous. Only feeling comfortable if everyone looks like you? What would these people do if they ever traveled abroad and wanted to enjoy some nightlife? I guess those are type of peeps who will go to England or Australia and think they are now worldly.

[jordypip23]

Personally I'd find more value in a hot ethnic girl compared to an "average" white girl from the scale lol. Hot girls, regardless of race, are quite appealing to many IMO.

(05-05-2012 04:11 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Just to echo what others have said, in my experience the clubs go from:

1. Attractive white girls
2. Average white girls
3. Persian girls
4. Asian girls
5. Mexican/black girls
6. The end

[rhodey]

(08-11-2012 11:40 AM)basilransom Wrote:  

(08-11-2012 01:43 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

@Basilransom

I just ran across another blog in the same vein as this one above. It's not frequently updated but there's some gems in there.

http://bottleserviceisfortourist.blogspot.com/

Nice. Funny clip there. Although in real life, if he said "I'd tear that ass up" in that context, she'd immediately get disgusted. You can say that as a white guy ironically, not as a black guy earnestly.

That blog had a good post about how women suck as promoters.

From the blog: "Once the rappers and professional athletes started to make it their home, all the hot girls stop coming."

Sounds like he's talking about black guys. It's kind of strange. When I've been in venues where it's very white, the average black guy is cooler than the average white guy. These are guys who can kick it with anyone, are socially connected and have lots of popular white friends.

But when there are lots of black guys (and presumably Latino guys), the hottest white girls get turned off and stop coming. Do they stop coming because they don't feel comfortable when a scene gets too non-white? Or is it because when more minority guys come, the new minority dudes tend to have bad game that scares off the white girls? Probably a bit of both. More of the latter with athletes and rappers who've never had to conform to white circles to get invited and so on.

If a guy is not cool but he's not approaching, it's not terrible, people won't feel it much. But if he does approach a lot, he'll be downright irritating. In other words, if you have to have an uncool guy at your party, you're better off if he's introverted, than if he's going around actively pissing people off. An uncool extrovert is the absolute worst. The collective perception is that black guys approach more - so if you have black guys with bad game running around hollering at girls, it's going to be a lot more disruptive than a couple lame white or Asian dudes huddling in the corner.

I also wonder if some of these hot girls rub shoulders with celebrities so much that their status ceases to matter - it's just the new normal for them. So if a dude is running bad game on them, even if he's on the Lakers, she won't cut him any slack.

The blog mentions Brent Bolthouse as an owner capable of pulling hot ass to his venues. Bolthouse opened the Bungalow, and it does have pretty good talent. Next time I'm there, I'm gonna ask girls what led them to come there, gain some insight on how these A-list promoters and owners get talent through their doors.

This doesn't just apply to clubs, it applies to any public venue. Once, it gets to a certain percentage of nonwhites (especially blacks) either they have to go, or the whites go.

The worlds is fucked like that. But it needs to change for the better.

[Armbar]

Hey dudes, I'm heading to Hollywood for a day or two and was wondering what clubs to go to. I've been checking out some of the threads on Los Angeles and I know that a lot are hard to get into to. What's a good club I can get into without getting bottle service or with a bunch of chicks on a Thursday or Friday night? What's a good starter bar? I'm gonna be staying at the standard in Hollywood. Thanks.

[Christian McQueen]

Ask your concierge at Standard to hook you up. It's their job.

If you're rolling solo, tell them you'd like to check out a good club and have them set you up with their connects.

If you're rolling with a buddy, expect to tip and pay cover.

If you're rolling deep 3+, more than likely will be pushed to get a bottle, or at the very least, be tipping, paying cover and waiting for a bit in line.

Without connects in the club world, expect to pay. That's the name of the game and why I preach about getting clubs On Lock.

Lastly, you can reach out to some LA members and see if they'll let you roll with them this weekend, but due to your low post count, they probably won't. Just keeping it real.

[Armbar]

(04-03-2014 06:00 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

Ask your concierge at Standard to hook you up. It's their job.

If you're rolling solo, tell them you'd like to check out a good club and have them set you up with their connects.

If you're rolling with a buddy, expect to tip and pay cover.

If you're rolling deep 3+, more than likely will be pushed to get a bottle, or at the very least, be tipping, paying cover and waiting for a bit in line.

Without connects in the club world, expect to pay. That's the name of the game and why I preach about getting clubs On Lock.

Lastly, you can reach out to some LA members and see if they'll let you roll with them this weekend, but due to your low post count, they probably won't. Just keeping it real.

No problem. I completely understand. Thanks for the info!

[Saladin]

(08-11-2012 11:40 AM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

(08-11-2012 01:43 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

@Basilransom

I just ran across another blog in the same vein as this one above. It's not frequently updated but there's some gems in there.

http://bottleserviceisfortourist.blogspot.com/

Nice. Funny clip there. Although in real life, if he said "I'd tear that ass up" in that context, she'd immediately get disgusted. You can say that as a white guy ironically, not as a black guy earnestly.

That blog had a good post about how women suck as promoters.

From the blog: "Once the rappers and professional athletes started to make it their home, all the hot girls stop coming."

Sounds like he's talking about black guys. It's kind of strange. When I've been in venues where it's very white, the average black guy is cooler than the average white guy. These are guys who can kick it with anyone, are socially connected and have lots of popular white friends.

But when there are lots of black guys (and presumably Latino guys), the hottest white girls get turned off and stop coming. Do they stop coming because they don't feel comfortable when a scene gets too non-white? Or is it because when more minority guys come, the new minority dudes tend to have bad game that scares off the white girls? Probably a bit of both. More of the latter with athletes and rappers who've never had to conform to white circles to get invited and so on.

If a guy is not cool but he's not approaching, it's not terrible, people won't feel it much. But if he does approach a lot, he'll be downright irritating. In other words, if you have to have an uncool guy at your party, you're better off if he's introverted, than if he's going around actively pissing people off. An uncool extrovert is the absolute worst. The collective perception is that black guys approach more - so if you have black guys with bad game running around hollering at girls, it's going to be a lot more disruptive than a couple lame white or Asian dudes huddling in the corner.

I also wonder if some of these hot girls rub shoulders with celebrities so much that their status ceases to matter - it's just the new normal for them. So if a dude is running bad game on them, even if he's on the Lakers, she won't cut him any slack.

The blog mentions Brent Bolthouse as an owner capable of pulling hot ass to his venues. Bolthouse opened the Bungalow, and it does have pretty good talent. Next time I'm there, I'm gonna ask girls what led them to come there, gain some insight on how these A-list promoters and owners get talent through their doors.

Its funny, I think Drake's producer(my friend said he was) was at a place I was at a couple nights ago(in Toronto).

Didn't see that many girls at that table. Just a bunch of dudes.

Bottle service dudes just seem to stand around like statues.

Although promoter/connected dude's tables have lots of hot girls at those tables and seem to be doing well for themselves.

But I think what Distant Light said is true, most of these rappers/rich black dudes barely have girls on their tables. They seem to scared to approach.

I think theres lot of potential of networking in these sort of places.

[Valhalla]

Goddamn I didn't know the LA scene was this tough.

Wonder how all those trashy hipster and slutty hot girls get into these places
I'm sure that's a different "exclusive" crowd

[kerouac]

Have any of you had experience hooking up with a hot girl at a hot club?

If so, are you affiliated with the nightlife scene or are you an "outsider"?

My view is that the nightlife scene works in favor of the people who work in the scene much more favorably than the customers. I have a feeling it's all an illusion. A good looking guy with decent game might hookup, but I have a feeling the people profiting the most from this enterprise are the people organizing the enterprise.

Does the frat holding the best college parties look to profit the friends of the frat or the frat members themselves?

[dtf]

Quote:

the nightlife scene works in favor of the people who work in the scene much more favorably than the customers. I have a feeling it's all an illusion. A good looking guy with decent game might hookup, but I have a feeling the people profiting the most from this enterprise are the people organizing the enterprise.

Good observation. It's rigged, just like the stock market. I've been looking for an in myself.

[la_mode]

Greystone definitely isn't what it used to be.

One thing I've noticed about LA clubs...the "regular" crowd is often more impressive than the VIP crowd who only got in by spending a lot. LA clubs can also be VERY foreign, meaning half the dudes don't understand American jokes. Use this to your advantage.

[Vicious]

Sounds like LA clubs are something you only want to go to of it's your only option with regard to game. The ROI appears to be minimal.

[Akula]

Damn there is so much knowledge and interesting thoughts/ideas being dropped in this thread it's not even funny.

Kudos to everyone in LA et al who are adding value here - keep it up - it's not just applicable to LA but globally especially as other domiciles get more and more 'Westernized'.

[Veloce]

Funny to see this thread again two years later.

Even before I read Bang I had a phase of hitting L.A. clubs frequently. Like any other aspect of game, it's not hard hooking up with club sluts when you go out every week. If you're just passing through town you're better off at a West Hollywood bar.

These days I go to a club once every few months. Needless to say I don't get my hopes up or even take it very seriously, but it's fun to dip my toes in occasionally. I used to go out all the time back when Mercato di Vetro was Foxtail, and then Mi:6. Greystone was Area and then Industry. Those were fun times, and it was more about partying and having fun than going out to get laid.

I'm sure the clubbing scene hasn't changed that much, but I've definitely changed. That said, when the next hotspot opens up it'd be fun to get back into it.

[jamaicabound]

(05-04-2012 02:38 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Did you offer to slip the guy $100?

At hot clubs, unless you know someone, that's about market rate. If you're lucky, you could get two guys in for $100.

But you need to either know a guy at the door or be prepared to grease.

In Chicago we used to go to the back doors, bar backs and kitchen workers are bought much cheaper like $40 to get in the back lol.

I hate places where the bouncers think they are the shit for working there and give attitude. It's one thing if its' a hot high profile spot, still lame but at least its a top spot.

What really drives me crazy is when some local bar/club gives the door guys headsets and all the sudden they think they are patrick swazy and its like dude you make $9 an hour working at this shitty local bar with a dance floor get over yourself.