[Sebastian]

I went out solo tonight. I asked this girl if she could order a drink for me. I approached her later and she invited me to her girl's group right away. I was talking to 3 friendly girls and I was having fun.

This girl I approached said out of the blue, 'I need to get laid' to her friends right in front of me. even her friends were saying 'she needs to get laid hahaha'
It caught me off guard because I never heard something like that.
I just acted like I didn't hear anything.

I saw her talking to bunch of guys in smoking areas and by the bar.

Before I got her #, I asked her 'what are you doing afterwards' and she said 'I am going home. I need to go to bed'
I told her 'you should go to bed'
I could say 'well you should come to my place' but I didn't want to risk my 2nd chance with her.
What would you do when a girl say something like that? Was she trying to tell me I should take her home?

I've seen my friends talking to a girl who talked about how they love sex etc. I told my friends when a girl talks like that, you won't probably have a chance with her. he wasted his time talking to her all night. do you agree?

[soup]

(04-30-2012 02:18 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I went out solo tonight. I asked this girl if she could order a drink for me. I approached her later and she invited me to her girl's group right away. I was talking to 3 friendly girls and I was having fun.

This girl I approached said out of the blue, 'I need to get laid' to her friends right in front of me. even her friends were saying 'she needs to get laid hahaha'
It caught me off guard because I never heard something like that.
I just acted like I didn't hear anything.

I saw her talking to bunch of guys in smoking areas and by the bar.

Before I got her #, I asked her 'what are you doing afterwards' and she said 'I am going home. I need to go to bed'
I told her 'you should go to bed'
I could say 'well you should come to my place' but I didn't want to risk my 2nd chance with her.
What would you do when a girl say something like that? Was she trying to tell me I should take her home?

I've seen my friends talking to a girl who talked about how they love sex etc. I told my friends when a girl talks like that, you won't probably have a chance with her. he wasted his time talking to her all night. do you agree?

Did you physically escalate with her at all? Even social touching like hand shakes, taps on the shoulder etc. count.

If so, how did she react?


You can't be direct with a girl verbally until you've set the stage physically. I'd only suggest 'leaving this place' if I'd at the very least kissed her, or secretly had my hands in places that suggested sex.

They can say what they want, but what really matters is how the react to your touch.

[Roosh]

A girl wanted to have sex with you same night but you instead played it cool so you wouldn't damage the possibility of a future date?

[DareP]

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I could say 'well you should come to my place' but I didn't want to risk my 2nd chance with her.

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You can't be direct with a girl verbally until you've set the stage physically. I'd only suggest 'leaving this place' if I'd at the very least kissed her, or secretly had my hands in places that suggested sex.

These are both completely off. Chances are 80%+ she'll flake. Your chances of taking her home that night if you said "you should come to my place" were probably higher than your chances of seeing her again on a date.

From reading your post and from the fact that you were shocked that a girl said she needed to get laid, you haven't really internalized the fact that women want and need to have sex. Which is why you're being so hesitant about suggesting it or inviting her back to your place.

Was she telling you to take her home that night? IMO, Girls aren't really thinking that "asking" you to do anything, they're just dropping hints that they're available.

And no, if a girl's talking about sex, that's not a bad thing. Also, (this one's for soup's post,) you don't always need kino to pull. Just because you haven't been kinoing doesn't mean you shouldn't go for the pull. If it's on, it's on. Would you not sleep with a girl you liked because she didn't touch you enough? No. Same goes for her, if she likes you, even if you're not kinoing, there's a good chance. Plus, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so don't make lack of kino an excuse.

[Hotwheels]

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[quote] Also, (this one's for soup's post,) you don't always need kino to pull. Just because you haven't been kinoing doesn't mean you shouldn't go for the pull. If it's on, it's on. Would you not sleep with a girl you liked because she didn't touch you enough? No. Same goes for her, if she likes you, even if you're not kinoing, there's a good chance. Plus, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so don't make lack of kino an excuse.
[/quote]

bingo

I very rarely physically escalate at the bar or in public and it doesn't seem to slow me down in the least.

The most I'll do is take her hand while going through a crowd or my hand in the small of her back guiding her.

She knows what's up without that kino crap.

I don't make out in the bar either.

This may have it's roots in my small town background, as everyone seemingly knows everyone else. It's pretty rare to see people making out or feeling each other up in public there, as word travels fast through the grapevine.

[Tuthmosis]

(04-30-2012 02:18 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I could say 'well you should come to my place' but I didn't want to risk my 2nd chance with her.

[el mechanico]

I'm starting to see our new titles are accurate.

[Sebastian]

I did some kino. (putting my hand on her waist & shoulder, hugging sideways) she gave me a hug too.
She also bought me a drink. I also talked to her friends since they were very nice to me. She left table couple times to talk to some guys (not sure if she did it on purpose to game me)

Anyways, this is my weakness point. She is a medical student, russian but has a vibe of classy british girl. (little kate middleton)
I would've pushed for the bang if she was some sort of bar slut looking girl. I messed it up many time in the past by brining girls home, making out with them, get LMR and they never see me again.
Is it stupid to think 'I want to show her I am not like other guys just trying to get into her pants'?
I come from asian culture and it's bit hard for me to push for the bang with a classy girl.

My friend tells me he saw sweet & nice looking girls doing all slutty things back in high school and I should get rid of treating a nice girl like a virgin mary.
If you met a girl you want to keep it for long term at a bar, what would you do? (without her giving you obvious signs)

If she was just looking for SNL partner, then I know she will flake out.
If she actually liked me but I didn't push her hard enough, can she lose the attraction or the opposite? ('oh this guy is a wuss VS this guy is different than other guys at the bar')

[DareP]

(04-30-2012 07:40 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I did some kino. (putting my hand on her waist & shoulder, hugging sideways) she gave me a hug too.
She also bought me a drink. I also talked to her friends since they were very nice to me. She left table couple times to talk to some guys (not sure if she did it on purpose to game me)

Anyways, this is my weakness point. She is a medical student, russian but has a vibe of classy british girl. (little kate middleton)
I would've pushed for the bang if she was some sort of bar slut looking girl. I messed it up many time in the past by brining girls home, making out with them, get LMR and they never see me again.
Is it stupid to think 'I want to show her I am not like other guys just trying to get into her pants'?
I come from asian culture and it's bit hard for me to push for the bang with a classy girl.

My friend tells me he saw sweet & nice looking girls doing all slutty things back in high school and I should get rid of treating a nice girl like a virgin mary.
If you met a girl you want to keep it for long term at a bar, what would you do? (without her giving you obvious signs)

If she was just looking for SNL partner, then I know she will flake out.
If she actually liked me but I didn't push her hard enough, can she lose the attraction or the opposite? ('oh this guy is a wuss VS this guy is different than other guys at the bar')

PM me your email. I'll send you the eBook that helped get me past "getting girls interested" to actually being able to pull. It's more of an internal shift than any technique.

[Hades]

I think that was an invitation to be a little more aggressive.

[Cr33pin]

(04-30-2012 10:51 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm starting to see our new titles are accurate.

Easy for you to say, your listed as aInternational Playboy. Im listed as a chubby chaser >.<
Even tho i do like to get drunk an bang chubby girls from time to time......

[Goodjob]

(05-01-2012 05:28 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(04-30-2012 10:51 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm starting to see our new titles are accurate.

Easy for you to say, your listed as aInternational Playboy. Im listed as a chubby chaser >.<
Even tho i do like to get drunk an bang chubby girls from time to time......

lol

[dk902]

Next time be as aggressive as you can be and escalate as much as possible, short of being a perv...see where it gets you. I wager it will get you pretty damn far.

Every woman appreciates a man who goes after what he wants aggressively than the passive gentleman who doesn't want to appear sexual.

[jerome]

(04-30-2012 07:40 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

She is a medical student, russian but has a vibe of classy british girl. (little kate middleton)

I would've pushed for the bang if she was some sort of bar slut looking girl.

I come from asian culture and it's bit hard for me to push for the bang with a classy girl.

Good job going out and getting the number!

But, You seem to have a judgemental and pre-conceive notion of what a Slut looks like or a DTF girl acts like.

There is no scientific evidence how a girl dress and act, will emit signal that she is a slut or DTF.

You hold on to this fantasy of a good girl. They don't exist my friend. She is a women, she needs to have sex, its obvious she came out to meet someone base on the evidence, she and her friend announce to the world, she needs to get laid. What signal do you need to see.

You describe her as classy = meaning you are impress by her.....never be impress by a girl...this will give her the upperhand.

You talk about being asian as a excuse not to escalate, throw that race card out the window.... You are in America now, act accordingly...You are an American. The End...never bring up the BS crap of being ASIAN ever again for your failure. You fail because of you, not because you are Asian. It doesn't matter. What matter is that you took no action. That was the main problem. Why? because you are afraid to lose her. Girls reward risk takers.

[Roosh]

In your followup post it seems clear that you don't really care about getting laid.