Scorching Review of 4 HR Body - Raises Questions in my Mind about What Real Health Is
04-26-2012, 04:09 PM
His slow carb diet is legit, though. I did it for two months and got really lean, almost had a six pack.
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:09 PM)bacan Wrote:
His slow carb diet is legit, though. I did it for two months and got really lean, almost had a six pack.
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:21 PM)ManAbout Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:09 PM)bacan Wrote:
His slow carb diet is legit, though. I did it for two months and got really lean, almost had a six pack.
I believe you. I see the difference in my body when I eat more bread, pasta etc. versus when I stick to just beans and lentils for my carb sources.
If a Stanford MD is saying that white bread and beans have the same effect on the body, while milk is fine, then I question his agenda, or maybe he needs to return his MD, because he doesn't sound very smart.
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:21 PM)ManAbout Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:09 PM)bacan Wrote:
His slow carb diet is legit, though. I did it for two months and got really lean, almost had a six pack.
I believe you. I see the difference in my body when I eat more bread, pasta etc. versus when I stick to just beans and lentils for my carb sources.
If a Stanford MD is saying that white bread and beans have the same effect on the body, while milk is fine, then I question his agenda, or maybe he needs to return his MD, because he doesn't sound very smart.
MDs don't learn nutrition in medical school.
Doctors are the last people to talk about diet, exercise, and steroids with.
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:09 PM)bacan Wrote:
His slow carb diet is legit, though. I did it for two months and got really lean, almost had a six pack.
Quote: (04-26-2012 11:36 AM)Giovonny Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 05:55 AM)finton_the_toole Wrote:
skinless chicken breast (yes I do eat it about once a week), is a travesty of food. It so easily ends up dry and disgusting.
Yes, chicken breasts can be tough to cook if you want to keep it a juicy, flavorful.
I think the best thing to do is to slice it thin. This was it cooks up very fast and maintains most of the moisture. Cooking a full size chicken breast properly can be tough for an inexperienced chef.
Here is a great way to do it:
Quote: (04-26-2012 07:32 PM)kosko Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 11:36 AM)Giovonny Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 05:55 AM)finton_the_toole Wrote:
skinless chicken breast (yes I do eat it about once a week), is a travesty of food. It so easily ends up dry and disgusting.
Yes, chicken breasts can be tough to cook if you want to keep it a juicy, flavorful.
I think the best thing to do is to slice it thin. This was it cooks up very fast and maintains most of the moisture. Cooking a full size chicken breast properly can be tough for an inexperienced chef.
Here is a great way to do it:
A good trick I do is to pound the breast thin in a ziploc bad with a rolling pin or a meat hammer if you have one. This keeps the chickens "natural" skin and will hold in the juices better versus slicing it thin. You pound it paper thin, season it with salt and pepper and sear it and cook it for a few minutes.
It will explode with juice and you will know when its 100% well done because it will release its juice when the meat fibers all stiffen up. fool proof method to the point people don't even trust my chicken because they have never eating breast so juicy they automatically assume its not cooked through.
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:21 PM)ManAbout Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:09 PM)bacan Wrote:
His slow carb diet is legit, though. I did it for two months and got really lean, almost had a six pack.
I believe you. I see the difference in my body when I eat more bread, pasta etc. versus when I stick to just beans and lentils for my carb sources.
If a Stanford MD is saying that white bread and beans have the same effect on the body, while milk is fine, then I question his agenda, or maybe he needs to return his MD, because he doesn't sound very smart.
MDs don't learn nutrition in medical school.
Doctors are the last people to talk about diet, exercise, and steroids with.
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:21 PM)ManAbout Wrote:
If a Stanford MD is saying that white bread and beans have the same effect on the body, while milk is fine, then I question his agenda, or maybe he needs to return his MD, because he doesn't sound very smart.
Quote: (04-26-2012 08:04 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Let me tell you why that quoted review is stupid.
I will make a bet with anyone here.
Give me one of your fat fuck American friends.
Put him on the Four Hour Body. Make him take "bullshit" supplements and follow a "bullshit" diet.
I guarantee he will lose 20 pounds of fat within two months.
None of you guys hating on the diet would take that bet.
Any book - Zone, Paleo, South Beach, 4 Hour Body - that gets people eating healthier and into the gym is a step in the right direction.
Stop hating.
Quote: (04-27-2012 08:25 AM)Walnuts Wrote:
I hold a dim view of doctors. They're supposed to be smart, but who would seriously say that becoming a doctor is a smart decision?
You have to go to college for like a hundred years, then you work shitty hours in a fucking hospital all day and night surrounded by people shitting on themselves. The pay isn't even that great when you take all that into account.
Thanks but no thanks, I'd rather not make a habit of having to tell people their grandma's not gona make it three times a week.
{Edited for grammar}
Quote: (04-27-2012 08:54 AM)Keyser Söze Wrote:
Anyhow, if there are people who truly believe that by reading a few blogs that happen to be written by people with a financial stake in nutrition products, and then doing some google research and cherry picking bits and pieces of second rate non randomized studies, that they understand how something effects the body better than an MD, then have at it and enjoy the consequences.
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Evolution has a way of eliminating such imprudence.
Quote: (04-27-2012 01:49 PM)ManAbout Wrote:
Quote: (04-27-2012 08:54 AM)Keyser Söze Wrote:
Anyhow, if there are people who truly believe that by reading a few blogs that happen to be written by people with a financial stake in nutrition products, and then doing some google research and cherry picking bits and pieces of second rate non randomized studies, that they understand how something effects the body better than an MD, then have at it and enjoy the consequences.
You seem to have a real hard on for this Stanford MD guy who posted a review don't you? Many of the comments on here have been guys who are relating their own personal experience, not information gathered from randon online blogs. Yet, you discount their experiences and choose to believe the comments of an anonymous reviewer who may or not be a Stanford MD any may have some other agenda.
But, you are right about one thing, trying to gather information from so called "expert blogs" online is not a good idea. After all, as a guy who is trying to sell "Success in Real Estate" DVDs online without having made a single penny in real estate, you should know all about such things.
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Evolution has a way of eliminating such imprudence.
Speak for yourself.
Quote: (04-26-2012 08:04 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Let me tell you why that quoted review is stupid.
I will make a bet with anyone here.
Give me one of your fat fuck American friends.
Put him on the Four Hour Body. Make him take "bullshit" supplements and follow a "bullshit" diet.
I guarantee he will lose 20 pounds of fat within two months.
None of you guys hating on the diet would take that bet.
Any book - Zone, Paleo, South Beach, 4 Hour Body - that gets people eating healthier and into the gym is a step in the right direction.
Stop hating.
Quote: (04-27-2012 08:25 AM)Walnuts Wrote:
I hold a dim view of doctors. They're supposed to be smart, but who would seriously say that becoming a doctor is a smart decision?
You have to go to college for like a hundred years, then you work shitty hours in a fucking hospital all day and night surrounded by people shitting on themselves. The pay isn't even that great when you take all that into account.
Thanks but no thanks, I'd rather not make a habit of having to tell people their grandma's not gona make it three times a week.
{Edited for grammar}
Quote: (04-26-2012 04:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
MDs don't learn nutrition in medical school.
Doctors are the last people to talk about diet, exercise, and steroids with.