[kimleebj]

I did a moderate set of deadlifts at Gold's gym, 6 reps @ 255. Each end of the olympic barbell had a 45-pound plate, two 25's, and a 10. So it rattled and made some noise.

Some middle-aged gym manager appeared and told me to be gentler because I might bend the bar. This is stupid, because you don't bend bars by dropping on the floor. You bend them by dropping on a rack or bench. I will try using two 45's on each end next time, and clamping them tightly. Otherwise I might need another gym.

[Gmac]

It's not as bad as those gyms that ban grunting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/18/nyregion/18grunt.html

[MikeCF]

More likely: You were dropping the weights between each set on the dead lift rather than using control during the eccentric portion of the life.

Unless you're using bumper plates on an olympic platform, "dropping" weights in between reps is a party foul.

[el mechanico]

How was the talent there?

[kimleebj]

(04-23-2012 04:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

"dropping" weights in between reps is a party foul.

It was a gym, not a party. But seriously, do you do deadlifts?

[MikeCF]

(04-23-2012 04:59 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 04:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

"dropping" weights in between reps is a party foul.

It was a gym, not a party. But seriously, do you do deadlifts?

Yes, and I use more than 255, and have never had trouble controlling the weights.

When I had a private gym, I could have dropped my own weights. Never did, since it damages the equipment and flooring.

[Moma]

(04-23-2012 05:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 04:59 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 04:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

"dropping" weights in between reps is a party foul.

It was a gym, not a party. But seriously, do you do deadlifts?

Yes, and I use more than 255, and have never had trouble controlling the weights.

When I had a private gym, I could have dropped my own weights. Never did, since it damages the equipment and flooring.

So you disapprove of cats that let that shyt drop, then.

[HiFlo]

My contract was terminated from a gym once because someone else dropped weights and the lady attendant thought it was me.

[MikeCF]

(04-23-2012 05:43 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 05:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 04:59 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 04:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

"dropping" weights in between reps is a party foul.

It was a gym, not a party. But seriously, do you do deadlifts?

Yes, and I use more than 255, and have never had trouble controlling the weights.

When I had a private gym, I could have dropped my own weights. Never did, since it damages the equipment and flooring.

So you disapprove of cats that let that shyt drop, then.

Yes, it's disrespectful and unnecessary.

Guys go to a public gym, and then complain that they can't treat shared equipment like shit.

Get a private gym and then beat up equipment.

But you know why...Guys with a private gym actually treat their stuff properly and don't drop it.

Accidents happen, but even hardcore gyms say, "Don't drop the weights."

It's about respecting a shared space.

Grunting and dropping weights is something newbies do to feel "hardcore."

[Walnuts]

Are you dropping the weights from the waist or just letting them meet the floor a little too fast?

If it's the former, I can see why. That must make a huge noise. And possibly fuck up the floor.

If it's the latter, I don't see a problem. It's a gym not a fucking library. You can't seriously be expected to lay down 255 pounds of metal so that it just kisses the floor like a feather.

I don't think damaging the equipment is a problem. They're metal plates, not exactly a machine. Last time I checked, the barbell didn't have any moving parts or mechanisms. What are you gona crack the steel plates lol? Or maybe you could snap the Olympic barbell that's rated at a much higher strength than 255.

[Walnuts]

(04-23-2012 04:43 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

How was the talent there?

Lol, el mech is so Mediterranean it's unreal.

"fuck the gym, what about the GIRLS!?"

[travolta]

(04-23-2012 06:26 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  

You can't seriously be expected to lay down 255 pounds of metal so that it just kisses the floor like a feather.

Why not? perhaps your body just can't handle such weight if you can't lower it lightly. If you can't completely control the weight on both the eccentric and concentric movement, you're setting yourself up for injury. Slow down, lifting heavy weights isn't a race

[MikeCF]

http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/opencms...ights.html


By Jim Schmitz

U.S. Olympic Weightlifting Team Coach 1980, 1988 & 1992
Author of Olympic-style Weightlifting for Beginner & Intermediate Weightlifters Manual and DVD
Dropping Weights

I think the biggest reason Olympic-style weightlifting isn’t allowed in commercial gyms is that weightlifters are their own worst enemies sometimes because they drop their weights. I’m talking about successful lifts, not failures. Dropping weights isn’t necessary 80% of the time, maybe more. Dropping weights evolved as weightlifting became more popular around the world, especially in Eastern Europe, and more and more weight was being lifted, which was naturally more difficult to lower to the platform. As dropping weights became more accepted, something had to be done because the metal plates were tearing up platforms and destroying the flooring underneath. Someone invented rubber bumper plates around the middle to late sixties. They certainly have been a big plus in sparing damage to platforms and floors.

Now it seems that all lifters, from beginners to elite, think that dropping all weights, from warm-ups to maximums, is the way it should be done. This situation has perhaps evolved from watching the world championships and Olympic Games where lifters certainly drop weights, some from overhead even, and yet never have a lift disqualified as a result—even though the rules state clearly that you aren’t supposed to let go of the bar until it is at waist height. I think it’s unfortunate that this has been allowed to escalate to this level because now beginner and intermediate lifters think that is what is done in order to lift the big weights.

In my gym I am just amazed at some lifters who come in for a workout, and right off the bat they are dropping 40 kilos from overhead. Naturally, I tell them they can’t drop their weights in my facility, and after I explain to them how to lower weights under control, usually there aren’t any problems for them or me after that. However, I wonder, where do these people train where they can just drop the weights without regard to the equipment or their or others’ safety?

[MikeCF]

(04-23-2012 06:26 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  

Are you dropping the weights from the waist or just letting them meet the floor a little too fast?

If it's the former, I can see why. That must make a huge noise. And possibly fuck up the floor.

If it's the latter, I don't see a problem. It's a gym not a fucking library. You can't seriously be expected to lay down 255 pounds of metal so that it just kisses the floor like a feather.

I don't think damaging the equipment is a problem. They're metal plates, not exactly a machine. Last time I checked, the barbell didn't have any moving parts or mechanisms. What are you gona crack the steel plates lol? Or maybe you could snap the Olympic barbell that's rated at a much higher strength than 255.

Go to Gold's Gym in Venice - the mecca of bodybuilding and as hardcore a place as you'll see. On any given day you'll see bodybuilding pros, powerlifters, and athletes.

Load up 2 wheels and some chips.

Start dropping weight.

If you aren't kicked out for wrecking equipment, you'll be laughed out for making a scene with such light weights.

Or go to Westside Barbell. Load up 255 pounds. Drop the weight. See what happens.

[Walnuts]

(04-23-2012 06:55 PM)travolta Wrote:  

(04-23-2012 06:26 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  

You can't seriously be expected to lay down 255 pounds of metal so that it just kisses the floor like a feather.

Why not? perhaps your body just can't handle such weight if you can't lower it lightly. If you can't completely control the weight on both the eccentric and concentric movement, you're setting yourself up for injury. Slow down, lifting heavy weights isn't a race

If you can control the weight with that much ease, then you are not pushing yourself to the limit. I'm not advocating dropping the weights. I don't drop weights ever. But I don't workout like I'm playing splinter cell either. If I make some noise when I'm racking the bench press, or my deadlift touches the floor too fast, so be it. I'm trying to lift heavy weights to build strength. I'm not gona workout in stealth mode.

[Basil Ransom]

I was a member at a local powerlifting gym. Guys dropped weights all the time, and no one would bat an eye. Not the guys who compete, and not the owner. At most, maybe the trainer exercising with bored MILFs would say something.

Try catching the weight on the flesh just above your knee, and then set it down. It still makes noise when I do that, but considerably less.

[WesternCancer]

I try not to drop weights, but on stuff like powercleans its kind of hard. We do have bumper plates/a padded platform at my gym, but I still feel like an asshole.

[Hades]

The big point of building strength is about control.
If you must drop the weights in order to score reps, then you're lifting too heavy.

Side note: There's some jerkoff at the gym I go to who's idea of deadlifting is "grip, rip, toss".
He loads up maybe 300 pounds on the barbell, starts deadlifting, and he drops every rep from lockout to the floor ten-twelve times. These are vinyl plates and it is on a platform, but damn it's loud. I hope he rips off both kneecaps and barks his shins.

[BortimusPrime]

I was always under the impression that doing a slow controlled lift was better anyways for muscle building.