[Spartan]

(04-22-2012 11:37 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I have written girls do not respond to street game in eastern Belarus.It is weird for them.They respond only in western Belarus.
Anyway if you search for good girls...good luck.(usually the bad ones are prone to meeting a foreigner).

Greek, I just approached 3 girls and asked them for directions on the street.
I haven't gotten numbers or anything...just warming up.

But, girls were very friendly, turned around to face me, looked me in the eyes, etc.

What you meant to say,Greek, is that girls are not open to meet sponsors in public..they don't want people to see they are whores.


If you are young(20s), decent looking, and well dressed(but not like a foreigner)... girls are quite open to being talked to during the day.

Furthermore, I think day game is the best way to go (if you don't have a social circle).
I talked to some girls on VK who had boyfriends or were engaged...so we chatted as friends. They told me that approaching in stores, at university, etc. would be just fine.

I'm currently taking the time to read Day Bang more thoroughly..and thinking of how to adapt it to the Former Soviet Union.
I'm going out yet again today to talk to some girls after hitting the gym. A good workout definitely puts me in a better mood for approaches.

[Greek kamaki]

You are stubborn.You do not take any advice.When you get your first bang in FSU,notify me.

[Spartan]

(04-23-2012 07:54 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

You are stubborn.You do not take any advice.When you get your first bang in FSU,notify me.

I could be banging a girl every night if I was sponsoring. Just 2 days ago a girl was in my apartment a ready for sex,but I don't need a sponsorette.

Greek, I have tried your advice. It is not relevant when not sponsoring.
Don't tell me that you have to pay. The local men here make shit for wages and they get laid.

Why do you provide advice about sponsoring girls? I see that you know a lot about game...I see that you have been to the FSU many times.... I see that you understand these women.
How do you get laid here without paying? I don't mean a few drinks, and a dinner at a normal/casual restaurant. I can understand paying for that because I am a foreigner. But, most guys here can't even afford to go to a restaurant so I don't need to be paying for sushi, buying $50 dresses/perfume, and giving cash for her "expenses".

You said you did not use presents when you first started going to the FSU.
Did you say the same things you say now? Did you go to the same places?


The more I tried using your advice...the more I attracted sponsorettes.
I (and most of the forum) want to hear your advice on how to get girls without using presents.
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[Menace]

Sparatan,

It might be helpful to record some of your approaches so that people experienced in the FSU can give you better assistance. You can do everything guy X says to do and still fail, while he will succeed. This is because the way you come across is very important, and without knowing more about that, the advice you receive here or anywhere else will be of limited value.

[Spartan]

(04-23-2012 10:54 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Sparatan,

It might be helpful to record some of your approaches so that people experienced in the FSU can give you better assistance. You can do everything guy X says to do and still fail, while he will succeed. This is because the way you come across is very important, and without knowing more about that, the advice you receive here or anywhere else will be of limited value.

OK
I put my iphone on record and am going out now. No hidden video though, haha

Sorry Kamaki if I appear stubborn..I'm just a little frustrated.

[Spartan]

Day Game in Eastern FSU: Day 1

Scouting Locations and asking directions to get a feel of things


I approached a few girls during midday. There were several lone girls walking.
Most important is the time of day.

After 7:00 PM when it started getting ever so slightly darker...there were no lone girls. A few girls standing and nervously waiting for a friend to meet them, and that was it. People get much more serious as the day goes on here. Furthermore, girls in pairs often walk arm in arm together..making isolation even more difficult.

The communist relic store "Univermag" is a bad place to meet young girls...best to visit the newer, private shopping centers.

University is the obvious choice..but today was a day off from classes.
I think the biggest challenge is finding lone girls, in all these venues.


Approaching one girl in the early part of the day, I had her full attention. I was walking from the side and I said "Dyevushka, vy znayetye gdye nahoditsya Univermag?" She stopped, turned around and turned her body completely towards me to answer the question and made clear eye contact.


Openers- How to address someone
Roosh mentions pet stores..."Девушка, знаешь где я могу найти зоомагазин?"
(Girl, do you know where ...?) "Girl" is an accepted way of addressing someone..no one says "sorry/excuse me" to ask questions. Usually I am addressed as "molodoi chelovyek" (young person) if someone wants to ask me something.

I think this line will work perfectly here. Girls here have a soft spot for animals, as in all countries I guess.

"Где я раньше жил,
есть зоомагазин на каждой улицы. Вы можете бросить камень в любую сторону и он попадёт на зоомагазин ".

After this..I'll talk about animals and pets. You look like your'e an animal person, not from this town, etc.

Maybe talk about horseback riding (girls like horses...there is actually a place for horseback riding near this city).

I tried the "you look like ur not from here" line in Poland, even before I read Roosh..didn't get very positive results on it. I'm guessing that was b/c I said it too early, and/or that city didn't attract outsiders(people left there to go to other cities, not the reverse). Might be good to use in my current city though, as many girls come here for university(its the provincial capital).


Hopefully, the girl starts asking me questions and I can start asking her questions, etc. early on.
I don't think my Russian skills are good enough for dropping a lot of conversational bait...linguistically, thats relatively subtle stuff. I might have to write it out word for word in Russian if it becomes necessary.

I'm excited to try this stuff out here.



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PS Looking back at some of my recent posts, they are pessimistic. I know I'm doing the right things to improve (meeting with girls, pushing myself to escalate, analyzing and trying new things)...but I could do without the negative attitude. This is probably the toughest part of game/life to learn.


Also..I've never been so lean in my life. I'll probably have a six-pack by the time I leave! The FSU is the best place to go for dieting.
No bakeries, the bread sucks, restaurants suck, ..lots of fresh fruits/veggies/meats in the bazaar....and lots of walking.

[Greek kamaki]

And lots of fucking as well.This is what keeps people thin there.
Anyway to address girls as девушка I am not sure if it is good tactique.Yes,Russians do it and so do Poles.(dziewczyną) and Czechs(slečna), however I do not do it because I am foreigner.I would say "извините пожалста,знаете где эст ..." or in polish: Wy mieszkacie tutaj?Znasz kde jest..?" or in Czech:“Promiň' jsi z tady?Znáš kde je ...?“

You have also taken an ancient Greek name while your behaviour does not resemble Spartan at all.Imagine if Leonidas happened to fight in Belarus would he talk to girls about pets?More likely he would penetrate them in a row like shashlik.You have to live up to the thrill of Spartans there is no need to carry this warrior name.

[Spartan]

(04-23-2012 04:53 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

And lots of fucking as well.This is what keeps people thin there.
Anyway to address girls as девушка I am not sure if it is good tactique.Yes,Russians do it and so do Poles.(dziewczyną) and Czechs(slečna), however I do not do it because I am foreigner.I would say "извините пожалста,знаете где эст ..." or in polish: Wy mieszkacie tutaj?Znasz kde jest..?" or in Czech:“Promiň' jsi z tady?Znáš kde je ...?“

You have also taken an ancient Greek name while your behaviour does not resemble Spartan at all.Imagine if Leonidas happened to fight in Belarus would he talk to girls about pets?More likely he would penetrate them in a row like shashlik.You have to live up to the thrill of Spartans there is no need to carry this warrior name.

I dunno..just following Roosh's book. Maybe that book was only designed for America?

Revealing you are a foreigner too soon is bad here in Eastern FSU...but maybe you are right about it not mattering in person.

I had a great convo with a girl on mamba yesterday. She likes Classical music just like me! I gave up on classical music a long time ago because no one my age listens to it....but here was a girl who loves it. Got her phone number and called. Guess what..as soon as she heard my accent (I just said Privyet, kak dela eto...) she lost interest. I have had this happen several times. Once she actually meets you, its ok to reveal you are a foreigner to online girls.


In person...she'll hear the accent right away anyways, so it doesn't matter what I address her as.

Moreover..in person is a super fast way to screen for girls who'd be willing to meet a foreigner(instead of wasting time on convos online).

I'm done with online game now..its all day game and night game for me (mostly day) now.

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Actually, Poles don't say "Girl". We are more cultured and say "Madam//Sir"(Pani/Pan). In Ukraine(and Russia also I think..) they used the word "madam" earlier on. The communists changed it to "comrade" and when that disappeared..it left a void in their language which was filled with "girl"/"young person"/etc. The communists did a lot to ruin these countries. The city I am in used to have beautiful architecture..but it was destroyed by the commies...AFTER WW2!!! Why!?!? Who on earth would tear down old buildings and castles, destroy beautiful cobbled streets..
well..the commies also killed many intellectuals and destroyed creativity and freedom of expression...and it persists to this day in my location. People here are not stupid, but they have little creativity...they never had the chance to practice it.



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What would you recommend for a typical day game? More direct??

Roosh..are you having success with day game in the FSU? Are you using elderly game or something entirely new for the region?

[Spartan]

Goodbye..... (for now)
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I just got a really insightful PM.
What am I doing..typing on the computer all day.
I should be plowing girls.

I'm going to the disco tomorrow and find me a girl to fuck..not marry.
I'm going to run some daygame..

Quote of some info sent along with the PM:
In general most girls are very open to meet with you. You could just stop them in the street and start to talk with them, they actually like this. Start with asking for directions. And after five minutes you could ask for number and ask her out for coffee. You will be surprised how many will say yes.


I'm gonna hit the gym and have a great workout.
I'm gonna cook myself a delicious dinner...
not because I need to impress some silly girl, but because I want a good meal/workout.


I think I'm starting to understand the advice I got in the "find a wife" thread I posted a few months back.... it was about being a man.

[lotharius]

(04-23-2012 07:32 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Goodbye..... (for now)
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I just got a really insightful PM.
What am I doing..typing on the computer all day.
I should be plowing girls.

I'm going to the disco tomorrow and find me a girl to fuck..not marry.
I'm going to run some daygame..

Quote of some info sent along with the PM:
In general most girls are very open to meet with you. You could just stop them in the street and start to talk with them, they actually like this. Start with asking for directions. And after five minutes you could ask for number and ask her out for coffee. You will be surprised how many will say yes.


I'm gonna hit the gym and have a great workout.
I'm gonna cook myself a delicious dinner...
not because I need to impress some silly girl, but because I want a good meal/workout.


I think I'm starting to understand the advice I got in the "find a wife" thread I posted a few months back.... it was about being a man.

And so the transformation begins......

[Partizan]

(04-23-2012 07:32 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Goodbye..... (for now)
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I just got a really insightful PM.
What am I doing..typing on the computer all day.
I should be plowing girls.

I'm going to the disco tomorrow and find me a girl to fuck..not marry.
I'm going to run some daygame..

Quote of some info sent along with the PM:
In general most girls are very open to meet with you. You could just stop them in the street and start to talk with them, they actually like this. Start with asking for directions. And after five minutes you could ask for number and ask her out for coffee. You will be surprised how many will say yes.


I'm gonna hit the gym and have a great workout.
I'm gonna cook myself a delicious dinner...
not because I need to impress some silly girl, but because I want a good meal/workout.


I think I'm starting to understand the advice I got in the "find a wife" thread I posted a few months back.... it was about being a man.

[lotharius]

Make sure you let these bitches who's boss, no more Mr Niceguy

[Spike]

Spartan, you need to get your butt away from online gaming and start setting up online dates. I never chat or use messenger or something, its a waste of time. Just set up dates and thats it.

How is your vibe?, it seems like you are way to frustrated. It reminds me of my time in Colombia.
What do you talk about with these girls ?

[Spike]

(04-23-2012 04:53 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

You have also taken an ancient Greek name while your behaviour does not resemble Spartan at all.Imagine if Leonidas happened to fight in Belarus would he talk to girls about pets?More likely he would penetrate them in a row like shashlik.You have to live up to the thrill of Spartans there is no need to carry this warrior name.

I laughed my ass off when i read this. Solid gold humor.

[Partizan]

(04-23-2012 04:53 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

You have also taken an ancient Greek name while your behaviour does not resemble Spartan at all.Imagine if Leonidas happened to fight in Belarus would he talk to girls about pets?More likely he would penetrate them in a row like shashlik.You have to live up to the thrill of Spartans there is no need to carry this warrior name.

I have just spewed my corn flakes all over the keyboard.

Classic