[sikeodelic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Ko6Xfa8...e=youtu.be

imbd that guy!

[Cyrus]

People are so stupid. My friend put on a stylish, long light-brown trenchcoat and some brown shades on at the mall and got approaches + pictures (who else would put shades on at a mall otherthan a celeb or a tryhard you can smell a mile away). Many more still just checked him out from afar. I'm pretty sure he also bought the trench at H&M, which, if you've never heard of the store, sells very cheap, "fashionable" (if you will) clothing.

Most celebrities are no different than regular people. I don't really know why society likes to select some people to send their social proof to the stars... It's just me, they aren't owed anything, so why do it

EDIT but there is something to be said about the inner game of this Thomas Elliot guy and my friend. My friend always has unshakable top confidence, and he slays women with or without a celebrity look. I think similarly Thomas was riding the swag fumes from his buddies/security guards/mall idiots boosting his ego.

[Spike]

Cool stunt, reminds me of Barney in the comedy series "How I met your mother" who created a fake celebrity persona to get laid. He called it the Van matterhorn scheme or something. This would work well if you visit other countries. Just create a fan page and some websites ( maybe a wiki)

I remember when i was in Taipei/Taiwan and some girls approached me and asked what i did for a living. I had a taxi diver say i look like movie star earlier that day and made a joke saying i was an actor. My buddy played along with it. The girls asked my number and five girls pulled me on the empty dance floor and others started dancing when they saw me there with 5 girls.

This all happened before i found out about PUA/game whatever so it's clear to say i sucked at gaming back then, so little to nothing happened with those chicks. I tried but asian girls are so childish. A 22year old acts like 14 year old there.

I might set up a few fan pages or websites around my persona some day before i visit other countries again. Would be nice to capitalize on that with local dumb chicks. Not a big famous person but just a soap opera actor or something. That should do the trick. Its a nice experiment like video above.

edit : i found a video of the : The Lorenzo von matterhorn scheme

[Roosh]

Stay for the end where he sets up a date with a groupie.

Like Gene Simmons said, all that matters is fame, not skill or talent.

[R Smoov]

This seems like a very cool experiment to try out.

Nowadays celebrities can be made out of nothing

[Walnuts]

I hold a very dim view of celebrities.
They're not special at all, in fact they're usually the opposite.

Take away their fame and you just have a self-absorbed, pretentious shithead with no real value.

Having said that, I'd be starstruck if ever met Mike Tyson or Joe Frazier (sadly passed away last year)

[DLuzhin]

“One of the greatest steps towards inner enlightenment is to drop the idea of being known to others. That is an ego-trip, and a sheer wastage of time, energy, opportunity — and an opportunity that is tremendously meaningful. If you can use it, if you can turn in, you can be utterly contented. Life has so much to give, but it gives only to those who turn inwards. And the person who is after fame never turns in, because his whole point is to catch the attention of others. He is really childish, still saying ‘Daddy, Mummy, look at me, pay attention to me.’ He is still searching for somebody to pat him, appreciate him. Deep down he feels he is nothing; he wants to be patted, appreciated, so that he can feel some worth. But even if the whole world pats you and the whole world appreciates you, you will remain the same. This is not the way to attain to worth.”

-Osho

[babelfish669]

This is PR 101. Make something look important, and people think its important.

1) If your not the offspring of someone famous you have to have done something meaningful, act in a shitty movie, have a band, whatever.
2) Get photographed with tabloid celebrities
3) Create fake scenes, like in the video, get a press agent to push it in to the local press
4) Have some new movie, CD, etc about to be released and go on a hard press blitz

This is pretty much how Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian became famous.

[Giovonny]

(04-15-2012 10:39 PM)DLuzhin Wrote:  

“One of the greatest steps towards inner enlightenment is to drop the idea of being known to others. That is an ego-trip, and a sheer wastage of time, energy, opportunity — and an opportunity that is tremendously meaningful. If you can use it, if you can turn in, you can be utterly contented. Life has so much to give, but it gives only to those who turn inwards. And the person who is after fame never turns in, because his whole point is to catch the attention of others. He is really childish, still saying ‘Daddy, Mummy, look at me, pay attention to me.’ He is still searching for somebody to pat him, appreciate him. Deep down he feels he is nothing; he wants to be patted, appreciated, so that he can feel some worth. But even if the whole world pats you and the whole world appreciates you, you will remain the same. This is not the way to attain to worth.”

-Osho

This makes sense but didn't Osho create a cult of personality around himself? He made himself a celebrity and banged many of his female followers.

Not that he didn't work hard for it and deserve it..

He used fame as game.

Remember that what Osho said and what Osho did were often two different things..

In any case, I was so happy to see an Osho quote here on the RVF. He is one of my favorites!

[DLuzhin]

(04-16-2012 12:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 10:39 PM)DLuzhin Wrote:  

“One of the greatest steps towards inner enlightenment is to drop the idea of being known to others. That is an ego-trip, and a sheer wastage of time, energy, opportunity — and an opportunity that is tremendously meaningful. If you can use it, if you can turn in, you can be utterly contented. Life has so much to give, but it gives only to those who turn inwards. And the person who is after fame never turns in, because his whole point is to catch the attention of others. He is really childish, still saying ‘Daddy, Mummy, look at me, pay attention to me.’ He is still searching for somebody to pat him, appreciate him. Deep down he feels he is nothing; he wants to be patted, appreciated, so that he can feel some worth. But even if the whole world pats you and the whole world appreciates you, you will remain the same. This is not the way to attain to worth.”

-Osho

This makes sense but didn't Osho create a cult of personality around himself? He made himself a celebrity and banged many of his female followers.

Not that he didn't work hard for it and deserve it..

He used fame as game.

Remember that what Osho said and what Osho did were often two different things..

In any case, I was so happy to see an Osho quote here on the RVF. He is one of my favorites!

I've read a few of his books, but besides that I'm not wholly immersed in Osho-dom. I do like some of his trinkets here and there.

I think one way of interpreting what he means is that if one takes the inner route, and builds on one's unique strengths, talents and abilities in an organic and outcome-independent way, no matter their public reception, then these things all irradiate naturally and spontaneously from one in due course ("The wild geese do not intend to cast their reflection. The water has no mind to receive their image."). This is "game," and it's better than "fame", understood as frenetic attention-whoredom and marketing of one's personal brand / personality a la the Kardashians and most girls on Facebook.

[Giovonny]

(04-16-2012 12:45 PM)DLuzhin Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 12:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 10:39 PM)DLuzhin Wrote:  

“One of the greatest steps towards inner enlightenment is to drop the idea of being known to others. That is an ego-trip, and a sheer wastage of time, energy, opportunity — and an opportunity that is tremendously meaningful. If you can use it, if you can turn in, you can be utterly contented. Life has so much to give, but it gives only to those who turn inwards. And the person who is after fame never turns in, because his whole point is to catch the attention of others. He is really childish, still saying ‘Daddy, Mummy, look at me, pay attention to me.’ He is still searching for somebody to pat him, appreciate him. Deep down he feels he is nothing; he wants to be patted, appreciated, so that he can feel some worth. But even if the whole world pats you and the whole world appreciates you, you will remain the same. This is not the way to attain to worth.”

-Osho

This makes sense but didn't Osho create a cult of personality around himself? He made himself a celebrity and banged many of his female followers.

Not that he didn't work hard for it and deserve it..

He used fame as game.

Remember that what Osho said and what Osho did were often two different things..

In any case, I was so happy to see an Osho quote here on the RVF. He is one of my favorites!

I've read a few of his books, but besides that I'm not wholly immersed in Osho-dom. I do like some of his trinkets here and there.

I think one way of interpreting what he means is that if one takes the inner route, and builds on one's unique strengths, talents and abilities in an organic and outcome-independent way, no matter their public reception, then these things all irradiate naturally and spontaneously from one in due course ("The wild geese do not intend to cast their reflection. The water has no mind to receive their image."). This is "game," and it's better than "fame", understood as frenetic attention-whoredom and marketing of one's personal brand / personality a la the Kardashians and most girls on Facebook.

Very well said, I agree.

However, I am trying to take the "inner route" but also build my "fame" at the same time. It might sound contradictory but I'm gonna try.

Basically, I want to do what Osho did..

Take the inner route, help others to learn the inner route and also get money and pussy out of it. That's the Osho way!

[Walnuts]

I don't know who Osho is, but from the sounds of it he knew that people that want fame are attention seekers craving acceptance and have little real value, BUT he also saw that fame gets you mad pussy just by the factor of access and appeal to hamsters so he made a genius move;

He knew that fame was shallow, meaningless bullshit but he pursued it anyway just for the benefits.

Genius.

[Excelsior]

Lesson (and I know many of us here already know this, but reminders for the young dudes can never be too frequent): Your typical young women today are so incredibly status conscious and materialistic that all one has to do is pretend to be famous in order to gain sexual access. The rise of reality TV culture and social media have just made this worse. This guy did nothing substantive at all, and he had legions of fairly attractive young women going on and on about how "cute" he was and following him around. He's just a normal guy who claimed to be a fake celeb, and this was enough to completely alter their perception of him and make him a sexually appealing dude.

If this doesn't take women off of the pedestal for some clueless young guys, then not a whole lot will. The average young girl does not care about you, your "personality" or "love", gentlemen. She cares about acquiring status and simultaneously impressing her female peers, and her interest in you will likely be directly proportional to the amount of said status and peer-validation you can provide her with.

Her dream is not to find a "good guy" and live well. Her dream is to find a guy who can make her friends jealous, and provide her with a lifestyle that will keep them jealous.

The key for young guys is to find out how to sell her that dream. There are many ways to do it. This fellow decided to use fake celebrity just for the hell of it-others may try other markers (degrees, job titles, well-appointed bachelor pads, G'ed out clothing, cars, boats, motorcycles, etc).
If you can find a way to sell her the dream in any of these ways, much of the hard work will be done for you.