[Vacancier Permanent]

Gringoed,
This looks awesome. I'm following this thread very closely. I'm thinking of doing something similar in a different country later this year.
So keep up the awesome work and keep us updated.

Cheers.

[gringoed]

(04-08-2010 05:37 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

This plan works the access problem (of meeting hot girls).

Curious what your strategy is for sealing the deal with them.

This is something that I've been thinking about.

I think there are three potential directions with this:

1. Go the sleazy route and imply that banging me would help their career chances tremendously. There are a lot of questions with this, such as how early and how obvious should I make this implication?

2. Run legit game. This has even more question marks b/c this is Argentina.

3. Pay them for porn

I'm thinking of experimenting with all 3. Ideas?

[OGNorCal707]

I don't know the Argentine scene, but if these girls are pretty conservative, do you really think they will be down to do porn? And if so, wouldn't paying them to do porn, basically be the same thing as paying for sex (prostitute), I don't have any moral reservations with that, but definitely different then gaming them the traditional route. Maybe if you are able to pull off the scheme they will think you are of a really high social status and will be more open to being gamed, then they otherwise might be....? Based on what I've heard/read I think you're first option might be the best.

[speakeasy]

(01-18-2010 04:26 AM)kindredspirit Wrote:  

Contrarian indicator warning.

In my opinion, whenever a place/trend starts making the rounds in the mainstream media ("Rio is the next Paris!" "Buenos Aires is paradise on earth!" "The Internet changes the rules of business. The New Economy is here!" "Everyone should own a home NOW!"), it usually means it's the right time to look to exit that scene because it's about to be tapped out.

I always prefer the unknown, undiscovered, where skepticism, fear, or ignorance has kept the masses away.

Guess that's why the most adventurous travelers are in Africa. Now that's getting off the beaten path. The world is only so big though, everything will be "discovered" sooner or later. And as China's middle class grows, with it's 1.3 billion population, you can expect every city on earth to be flooded with rude Chinese tourists spitting and blowing snot on the sidewalk. Enjoy the world while you still can.

[OGNorCal707]

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Guess that's why the most adventurous travelers are in Africa. Now that's getting off the beaten path. The world is only so big though, everything will be "discovered" sooner or later. And as China's middle class grows, with it's 1.3 billion population, you can expect every city on earth to be flooded with rude Chinese tourists spitting and blowing snot on the sidewalk. Enjoy the world while you still can.
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Ha man when I was in Rio checking out the Christ Statue, some douche bag middle aged Chinese tourist tried to shove me out of his way, I;m thinking, dude man could just tap me on the shoulder and motion for me to step aside. That fool is seriously lucky I didn't back hand bitch slap his ass in front of his whole tour group. Ha, also remembering that the Chinese tourists must have all been germophobes because they were almost all wearing thick black gloves on a 100 degree sunny ass day.

[speakeasy]

(04-10-2010 01:05 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Ha man when I was in Rio checking out the Christ Statue, some douche bag middle aged Chinese tourist tried to shove me out of his way, I;m thinking, dude man could just tap me on the shoulder and motion for me to step aside. That fool is seriously lucky I didn't back hand bitch slap his ass in front of his whole tour group. Ha, also remembering that the Chinese tourists must have all been germophobes because they were almost all wearing thick black gloves on a 100 degree sunny ass day.

There you go. Chinese tourists are world renowned for being the rudest and most oblivious on the planet. This is scary:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/21/busine...rists.html

[Roosh]

Quote:

I'm thinking of experimenting with all 3. Ideas?

From personal experience, banging a desirable girl only once is only a little satisfying. I think your strategy to bang them should have a foundation.

Quote:

Chinese tourists are world renowned for being the rudest and most oblivious on the planet

I was in a Colombian casino once and this chinese guy was accusing the house of cheating at blackjack with their automatic shufflers (he was losing of course). He started throwing a temper tantrum and then his wife threw a few chips across the casino at the slow machines. Surprisingly they didn't get kicked out.

[Lumiere]

(04-07-2010 11:29 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

Update on the Cordoba models project:

I reserved a large rooftop on 4/24/10 for a big party to meet and do basic photos of the models in dresses and bikinis.

The plan now is to having this lavish party with catering, champagne, etc. to put across this image of swank LA living. I plan to hire a professional photo crew to take professional-quality digital photos of the girls that I can later give to the girls for their own personal use. Most of the photos I was emailed (about 60 emails with photos in total) were amateur so this will definitely provide them with value.

Meanwhile, I plan to have them fill out short questionnaires to find out exactly what they're willing to do, for example:

Semi-nude photo shoots
Nude photo shoots
Nude video shoots
Masturbating video shoots
Pornography

I'm planning for at least 25 to show up.

Update?

How did the party go?

[gringoed]

I postponed it for 5/1 so that I could get supposedly a free photographer who works for another modeling agency. That fell through so I'm searching for somebody to take professional quality shots on short notice.

Got 14 RSVP's so far.

I'll write a run-down next week.

[digitalamish]

Speaking of banging models (or their types)... Does Brazil have a fashion capital? Or is it all decentralized? I hear Floripa is great for that but only during high season, which is only something like Dec.-Feb. Though I recently read somewhere that Sao Paulo moved up 25 notches in the World's fashion cities ranking and is considered to be at number 8 now or something like that...
Does that mean most Brazilian models frequent SP?

[Roosh]

Yeah SP is most fashion forward and where a lot of entertainment business goes down.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Digital,
Sao Paulo is the fashion capital of Latin America and one of the top fashion capitals in the world.

[Entropy4]

A few comments:

- Mendoza's quality wasn't any better or worse than BA's imo. Quantity was far lower though. But being a gringo there was DEFINITELY an advantage. I got opened 2-3 times a night there and even had an Argentinean girl pull me from the club. Whereas in BA, I don't think I got opened once in the 30+ nights I went out. No idea how Mendoza compares to Cordoba, as I didn't make it there.

- The whole, "there's no way to make an objective statement about country X or Y," is a privileged statement. I've been in the UK for the last month. 'Nuff said...

I think the best way to look at it is by ranges. I wrote about this on my blog, but basically you look at each country and say, "80% fall in between a 5 and 8 in France, while 80% fall between a 6 and 9 in Argentina" or whatever. Honestly though, what I'm finding is every country has its fair share of stunners (USA and UK included) -- it's just a question of how many average girls, fat trolls and aggressive guys you have to wade through to get to them.

- I'm following this thread with a lot of curiosity. Good luck with the party and models gringoed. I also say veto the porn idea... I think even running a meager amateur modeling operation with a little superficial fluffing (catered roof party with photographers, love it) should be more than enough to land a few.

[digitalamish]

(04-30-2010 10:06 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Digital,
Sao Paulo is the fashion capital of Latin America and one of the top fashion capitals in the world.

Thanks!
Now, if only that city was a little safer and not as spread out as far as nightlife, etc.
I am trying to decide between BsAs and SP. As I want to make a serious commitment to learning the local language (I know some basic Spanish), I feel like
I am being torn between two very different cultures. Overall, Brazil provides more options. And I am very curious about cities like Curitiba, Florianopolis, Porto Alegre, etc. There is always that "buy a suit and go to Brasilia to bang secretaries" option too... I guess my main priorities would be the quality of life (safe streets, nightlife, food, weather, etc.). I don't mind the "hard to get" challenge that most Latinas provide. I've cracked that code long time ago after spending a few years in Miami...
Also, reading some of the reviews on Cordoba here, made me even more confused... But I guess it's a good kind of confused. Like a kid in a candy store kind of confused

[Vacancier Permanent]

Digital,
I haven't been to SP yet (other than transiting through GRU dozens of time), but I have lots of good friends from there. SP is HUGE. I have travelled a lot and have rarely seen (from the air) a city that huge and that spread out. It can get a nightmare if you're trying to get from one point to another during rush hour. No wonder that SP has the most or 2nd biggest float of private helicopters in the world to get around.
Anyways, SP is huge and based on what I heard, not as dangerous as RIO in the sense that in SP the favelas are out of the city, unlike Rio where favelas are everywhere. If you stay in a central area in SP, you're pretty safe as long as you practice common sense and don't behave like a stupid gringo. Again, that's based on my Paulistano friends' advices as I'm very curious myself to spend some time there next time I'm in Paradise, aka Brasil.

Floripa, haven't been there yet but I have only heard raving reviews about it from both Brasileiros and gringos. Porto Alegre, no idea, haven't been there. For Brasilia and Curitiba, see my thread on these places: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-1969.html

If you don't mind the bitchy attitude/bitch shield, then Curitiba would be a good place to consider based on your criterias except weather between May-Sept. Belo Horizonte would be an even better option as it's got everything that Curitiba has, that is clean, safe, educated people, sexy girls, awesome food, good weather all year long, albeit can get a bit hot and humid there, then you'd have a blast in BH. Provided 1) you speak enough Portuguese and b) stay at least 1 month, the more the better.

[gringoed]

Here's what happened at the models party we had yesterday. I had such a great time, I'm not going to forget this for a long long time!

It turned out that 5/1 is a national holiday here in Argentina where nobody works. That made finding a photographer and beverage service much harder to find, but at the last minute we found them so it all worked out. Litererally a couple hours before it starting, I had doubts that either would show up.

The layout: The rooftop had an indoor and outdoor area. We decided to set up the photographer outdoors and have the drinks/social indoors. We had perfect weather. For drinks, we had 4 different options-- all alcoholic including champagne. We started with chill music then upped the tempo as the night and alcoholic buzz went up. Total cost of everything (ad, drinks, photographer, rooftop, pizza) about 650 pesos or about $170 dollars.

The turnout: I had 15 RSVP, and 8 showed up. Some brought friends so the total turnout was about 12. This turned out to be a pretty good number. On the other side of the table was me (the head of the ficticious modeling agency), Partytime (my top talent scout), and my Argie friend (my advisor and business partner for operations in Argentina).


People started arriving at 9pm. Some were hot, some were just ok. At 10pm I gave a speech in English and my Argie friend translated. I explained who we were (unfortunately some lies scattered in) and what we were doing that night. We wanted to take the girls to a nearby club after we were done with the pictures.

After the speech we started taking photos of the girls individually while posing. To stay in character, I coached the models on what to do as well as the photographer. I'm proud to say we got some pretty good shots!

Meanwhile, Partytime sat down with them individually to get all their information and what kind of work they are willing to do (film, photo, nude, etc). He also buttered them up by saying to each of them that they are special, better than the rest, and they should come to the club with us. He did a great job because almost all of them came with us to the club.

By the time we were done with photos, everybody was nicely buzzed and a couple of them were flat out drunk. After a little pizza, we walked to the club and lost a couple along the way. When we arrived, we still had 9 girls and got in easily.

Upon entering it was pretty clear there were 3 chicks who were really into us, so I focused on the top two, an 18 y/o and a 20 y/o (cuter). The third was busty as hell and not my type at all.

Long story short, about an hour later, my Argie friend and I take back the three chicks to my apartment. My Argie friend takes the busty one somewhere in the building, while I take the other two into my apartment. On the way up, I make out with both of them. Once we're inside, we pop open some wine and start up a hookah. Partytime calls me to see what's going on, then comes over.

The 18 y/o is so clearly down, so even though I was mostly making out with the 20 y/o in the apartment, I take the 18 y/o to my bedroom and bang her. She is a horrible lay, worst of my life. 18 year old chicks are definitely overrated.

Partytime banged the same chick in the morning.

The 20 y/o slept in my bed but wasn't down to fuck.

The busty chick I'm pretty sure banged my Argie friend. He certainly could have if he wanted to.

This is not the end. There is more potential in this group. I'm planning to have the models come to my apartment individually to get copies of their photos and discuss what they can do to improve. The other girls clearly saw us getting gamed and I think they realize they need to step up their game. There may also be good potential with the cute 20 y/o, after all she did make out and sleep in my bed!

Overall, everybody had a blast. All the girls, too. I'd like to try this in other places, such as Eastern Europe. My Argie friend was so pumped that he is seriously considering doing talent recruitment in his spare time here in Cordoba.

Good times!!!!!

[Kona]

I'm really happy to hear this.

Maybe you should work with the 18 year old a bit before you completely write her off. It sounds like she's a blank canvas.

Also, seeing as the truth has been stretched, what if you had a plant in with the group of girls that was willing to play along?

Aloha!

[damok]

Brilliant!! Well done on executing this concept. I reckon you could write a wiki/howto on this process. As long as people aren't replicating it in the same city...

ha! You could charge guys to come in and be your 'talent scout' from X country

[doriangray]

Was there actually a chance for these girls to make something out of these photos or was it all just lies to get them into bed?

[gringoed]

(05-03-2010 11:49 AM)doriangray Wrote:  

Was there actually a chance for these girls to make something out of these photos or was it all just lies to get them into bed?

I wanted to make sure it was as legit as possible, so heres the value (besides fun, drinks, etc) we gave them:

1. Copies of the photos of them. Most of them didn't have professional quality photos to self-promote.
2. For the ones that are interested in nude photography, I'm planning to offer them a paid opportunity.
3. Experience with posing and professional advice. Some of the girls had never done a photo shoot before.
4. We now have contacts with some other agencies here in Cordoba, and we'll pass them along to them if it makes sense.

We never implied in any way that they needed to bang us to improve their chances. The girls were legitimately attracted to us-- part of the reason is they were just having more fun that night with us than they'd had in a long time!

[thegmanifesto]

gringoed and Partytime. Great hustle. A+.

Where did you find the photo snapper?

[Vacancier Permanent]

Good stuff Gringoed and Partytime. Keep up the good work and updating us.

[speakeasy]

It paid off. That was a brilliant idea. Sounds like it could've been a logistical nightmare if things didn't fall into place, but you guys pulled it off. I'm impressed. You'll be telling this story for years!

[Roosh]

Hilarious and awesome.

So PartyTime got your sloppy seconds?

[PartyTime]

(04-30-2010 11:03 PM)Entropy4 Wrote:  

) -- it's just a question of how many average girls, fat trolls and aggressive guys you have to wade through to get to them.

hilarious and true