[Brian]

is that Brilliantine?

[Layercake]

(12-08-2011 03:21 PM)Brian Wrote:  

is that Brilliantine?

What's Brilliantine? Is that like So-Glow? haha....

I don't put anything in my hair except the Remington....

[Brian]

Brilliantine was one of the night spots I hit up alot when I was there

[BalkanCynic]

(12-08-2011 12:21 PM)sine wave killer Wrote:  

I'm curious to how the nightlife scene is there. I'm a musician and I have a contact out in Sofia, I really want to get out there to do a show but he keeps telling that the music scene is too over saturated with bs (a la the states). I have a hard time believing this but my contact was born and bred in Sofia. I know all too well about Bulgarian women, hidden gems. I grew with a bunch of them out here in NY.

For bands, the most popular genres are:
1)Jazz: many live venues with a regular rotation of talented musicians
2)Classic rock/heavy metal: popular with teenagers and the middle class
... and to a lesser extent reggae and modern hybrids of bulgarian folk music.

Yes, the music scene there is certainly over saturated with bullshit, but a much different type of bullshit than you'd find in NY. Part of the problem is that Bulgarians aren't a very inventive breed. They love to imitate. And even if you were to put together a decent band, you'd have a hell of a time to get people to come out and check out your act.. the love for chalga and metal runs deep (oh wait, did someone say chalga-metal? hmm, hadn't thought of that mix before).

[Layercake]

(12-08-2011 05:46 PM)Brian Wrote:  

Brilliantine was one of the night spots I hit up alot when I was there

Aaah I see - no it was the "White House!"

[pitt]

Layercake your experience will be totally different from a guy who is dark skinned.

[K-man]

Well done Layercake, this girl Zlatka is a quasi-celebrity here.
I didn't know she puts out for just a fun time and several vodka-red-bulls, I thought her price was a little higher than that.
She is sorta dating an MMA fighter champ, a pretty tough guy, so it's good you did not get your ass kicked.

You sure this is White House again? I never heard of such a club in Sofia.

[Layercake]

(12-09-2011 12:58 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Layercake your experience will be totally different from a guy who is dark skinned.

Hi Pitt...
Really? You think? I'm curious to know why....

[Layercake]

(12-09-2011 03:07 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Well done Layercake, this girl Zlatka is a quasi-celebrity here.
I didn't know she puts out for just a fun time and several vodka-red-bulls, I thought her price was a little higher than that.
She is sorta dating an MMA fighter champ, a pretty tough guy, so it's good you did not get your ass kicked.

You sure this is White House again? I never heard of such a club in Sofia.

Hi K-Man
Yes she certainly is a celebrity there. I think she is always on BG TV. I'm assuming you live there.
When you quote "I thought her price was a little higher than that?" - I hope you're not implying she is a prostitute because she is a friend of mine.
Also these photos were before she was dating an MMA fighter. She was single and doesn't cheat, plus she isn't dating the fighter anymore.

[Layercake]

Sorry forgot to add - "The White House" is in Bourgas. Horrible town (I think) and where Zlati's parents are from. Bourgas was the only place where some local small-minded Jockstrap (look here if you don't a "Jockstrap" is - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jockstrap ) tried to kick my face in because of my skin colour. Trust me this rarely happens (like once in 5 years average) - what he failed to notice was that although I look cute and cuddly...let's just say I can handle myself...

[pitt]

(12-09-2011 08:52 AM)Layercake Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 12:58 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Layercake your experience will be totally different from a guy who is dark skinned.

Hi Pitt...
Really? You think? I'm curious to know why....

You dont look like the typical black man, you dont resemble much of blackness in my opinion.

Also light skin guys tend to have different experiences in places they visit in comparison to dark skin guys. Myself for example (i am light skin too), when i was in DR, i was hanging out with this black dude from LA and i was getting way more eye fucked by chicks than he was. He was also a good looking dude and way taller than me (I am only 5ft7) but our experiences were totally different. However if we were somewhere in Europe where women love dark skin men, then he probably would be getting more attention. White women who like black men usually tend to like dark skin men, they hardly like mullatos and black women usually prefer mullatos, well that has been my personal experience.


Also you have this model look that gives you a totally different vibe comparing to what most of black men are about, you could pass for a ''white tanned man'' (people wont think you are white, but i think you know what i mean). I have the same complexion as you but i probably come across as being more black. The way i dress (hood style), walk and talk holds more blackness. I am not a thug and i like to believe i dont come across as being one but my hiphop look gives me more blackness. Also you probably spent most of your life with white people, i spent most of mine with black people. All these factors make you way different from most of black folks, you probably adapt easier to whiter environments. My two good white best friends have too much of ''blackness'' in them, they dont even have any good white friends.

What i am trying to say here is that when you go approach a white girl, shit is way different from you, you totally understand how to relate with them. I would only quickly relate with a white girl if she was raised around blacks or she is a very intellectual women (which is rare), so your looks and the way you were raised makes it easier for you to relate to white folks.

Additional note: Since i came to work here in Africa my experience has been way different, i find it way more interesting to be talking to white american folks than the black cats from here (well these are highly intelligent white people and i am finding americans to be way different to most of english people).

Anyway i hope you aint taking this personal, its just my opinion.

[Layercake]

(12-09-2011 10:01 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 08:52 AM)Layercake Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 12:58 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Layercake your experience will be totally different from a guy who is dark skinned.

Hi Pitt...
Really? You think? I'm curious to know why....

You dont look like the typical black man, you dont resemble much of blackness in my opinion.

Also light skin guys tend to have different experiences in places they visit in comparison to dark skin guys. Myself for example (i am light skin too), when i was in DR, i was hanging out with this black dude from LA and i was getting way more eye fucked by chicks than he was. He was also a good looking dude and way taller than me (I am only 5ft7) but our experiences were totally different. However if we were somewhere in Europe where women love dark skin men, then he probably would be getting more attention. White women who like black men usually tend to like dark skin men, they hardly like mullatos and black women usually prefer mullatos, well that has been my personal experience.


Also you have this model look that gives you a totally different vibe comparing to what most of black men are about, you could pass for a ''white tanned man'' (people wont think you are white, but i think you know what i mean). I have the same complexion as you but i probably come across as being more black. The way i dress (hood style), walk and talk holds more blackness. I am not a thug and i like to believe i dont come across as being one but my hiphop look gives me more blackness. Also you probably spent most of your life with white people, i spent most of mine with black people. All these factors make you way different from most of black folks, you probably adapt easier to whiter environments. My two good white best friends have too much of ''blackness'' in them, they dont even have any good white friends.

What i am trying to say here is that when you go approach a white girl, shit is way different from you, you totally understand how to relate with them. I would only quickly relate with a white girl if she was raised around blacks or she is a very intellectual women (which is rare), so your looks and the way you were raised makes it easier for you to relate to white folks.

Additional note: Since i came to work here in Africa my experience has been way different, i find it way more interesting to be talking to white american folks than the black cats from here (well these are highly intelligent white people and i am finding americans to be way different to most of english people).

Anyway i hope you aint taking this personal, its just my opinion.

Hi Pitt...

I don't take anything personally and after reading that I can see where you are coming from. I'm in the lucky position of having relatively dark skin - with white guy features. (White Essex Dad - haha - and Mixed Race - South African / English Mum). My Sisters are both white. I'm just browner. Hated it at school because in 1980-1990 racism was rife in the UK) - but love it now.

Also in reference to my mannerisms around women, I agree that also could put me at an advantage. However I've got both black & white friends.......in the UK we all just interact in each others lives. So I think I can relate to anyone. You just adapt.

I think you have put across some valid, intelligent, well written points, which has opened my eyes a little more.

Interesting point about American Girls being different in Africa. I think the answer is simple, people who travel are usually more intelligent explorers, who probably read good quality newspapers everyday and this broadens their horizons.

Layercake

[MiXX]

I'm not black, but my skin complexion is very similar and I notice that I do VERY well with Bulgarian women, ALL French Girls, American black girls (educated ones), and Midwest white girls.

I have yet to explore Poland, and FSU countries, but that will change very soon in 2012.


Mixx

[K-man]

(12-09-2011 08:58 AM)Layercake Wrote:  

Hi K-Man
Yes she certainly is a celebrity there. I think she is always on BG TV. I'm assuming you live there.
When you quote "I thought her price was a little higher than that?" - I hope you're not implying she is a prostitute because she is a friend of mine.
Also these photos were before she was dating an MMA fighter. She was single and doesn't cheat, plus she isn't dating the fighter anymore.

I meant that 95% of the glamorous girls in Bulgaria (and those who think they are glamorous) acquire this mentality where they think they are too good to fuck a guy who just met them and gamed them. They hope to sell themselves for a certain price - not necessarily cash, could be nights out in VIP clubs, limo rides, gifts, spa treatments, appearances on Bulgarian TV, etc.
Good to hear that still some exist who can be gamed and banged just like that.

[Layercake]

(12-10-2011 03:09 AM)K-man Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 08:58 AM)Layercake Wrote:  

Hi K-Man
Yes she certainly is a celebrity there. I think she is always on BG TV. I'm assuming you live there.
When you quote "I thought her price was a little higher than that?" - I hope you're not implying she is a prostitute because she is a friend of mine.
Also these photos were before she was dating an MMA fighter. She was single and doesn't cheat, plus she isn't dating the fighter anymore.

I meant that 95% of the glamorous girls in Bulgaria (and those who think they are glamorous) acquire this mentality where they think they are too good to fuck a guy who just met them and gamed them. They hope to sell themselves for a certain price - not necessarily cash, could be nights out in VIP clubs, limo rides, gifts, spa treatments, appearances on Bulgarian TV, etc.
Good to hear that still some exist who can be gamed and banged just like that.

No offence taken K-Man, however you should not be too judgemental on the generic pool of Glamourous Bulgarian Girls. You need to dig a little deeper to uncover more.

In Zlati's case, when we met, it was just at the time of her 1st Playboy shot, she wasn't famous at all then. She comes from a very poor family in Bourgas (I've been to her Mum's very tiny flat), she has no father to support the family. This is the main reason she started modelling. To put food on the table. She's actually a very normal, smart girl, whom without any agencies or managers, or without even trying has become hugely famous in BG. Now hopefully she can put her Mum in a decent pad.

From memory we went on one or two Dinner dates over 4 weeks. (I rarely do dinner dates with Girls unless we're dating but I was hungry). We went dutch on one and I paid for the 2nd. $20 or less. Apart from that we just partied hard. Alone and with friends. Everyone took turns in buying rounds including Zlati. No champagne, just beer, vodka and a headache.

I've now had 5 private messages from players on here wanted me to give them her contact details when they are in BG. Haha...seriously guys.

[InternationPlayboy]

I have my Bulgarian flag and I'll give my two cents on the women...

I must say, I've only met 3 bulgarian women in my life that I've known of. 1 was ugly, 1 was decent, the other was real pretty. I banged the real pretty one. 2 of these Bulgarian girls I know were best friends and you never saw one without the other (except when I was hitting it from behind). They were both real friendly girls, both intelligent. I could see them coming off as somewhat cold if you didn't know them, but once you get to know them they open up a lot. It seemed like their humor was somewhat dark/ dry at times, but I kinda like that in some ways. The chick I banged was cool as hell. The first time I took them back from the bars to my place, I was with a friend and he basically has anti game. He scares off chicks rather than brings them in. While I'm making out with the cute one, my friend is creeping the other one out and she asks the one I'm making out with to leave. A couple weeks go by, me and homegirl get drunk and start walking towards her place. The other one was with some dude she met at the bar who I didn't know. At the first oprotunity my girl had to ditch the other two, she litterally grabbed me by the arm and pulled me into her appartment. We proceeded to have drunken sex for the next 30 minutes until I decided I was too drunk to bust a nut. After that, things were just the same as before. To this day that girl was one of the easiest girls I've ever delt with. We would NEVER call eachother. If we wanted to meet up, we knew where to find eachother (She was almost always at one of the 3 small bars in our town). She would never try and kiss me in public or hold my hand, or show any type of affection. If you saw us together in public, you'd have no idea we'd ever banged. There would be times I'd go to the bar and say nothing more than hi to her and go hang out with my boys all night, and she was cool with that. She would do the same to me. And we would both bang other people, we both knew about it (Small town, things get around, not like we were trying to rub it in one anothers face) and it was totally cool. We banged on and off all summer, good times. She was probably the most "no strings attached" girl I've ever banged. Really cool girls, and they drink like sailors as well. Their drink of choice: Vodka on the rocks.

[sine wave killer]

(12-08-2011 08:46 PM)BalkanCynic Wrote:  

I looked for fellow musicians in Sofia. It's a hard task.

For bands, the most popular genres are:
1)Jazz: many live venues with a regular rotation of talented musicians
2)Classic rock/heavy metal: popular with teenagers and the middle class
... and to a lesser extent reggae and modern hybrids of bulgarian folk music.

Yes, the music scene there is certainly over saturated with bullshit, but a much different type of bullshit than you'd find in NY. Part of the problem is that Bulgarians aren't a very inventive breed. They love to imitate. And even if you were to put together a decent band, you'd have a hell of a time to get people to come out and check out your act.. the love for chalga and metal runs deep (oh wait, did someone say chalga-metal? hmm, hadn't thought of that mix before).

If you're still interested, I can probably point you in the right direction to make this dream happen.

Wow, I have to give you some rep for this post. This was nearly verbatim what my contact in Sofia had told me. Except this dude is probably one of the most inventive and creative musicians that i've come across in my life. He told me it'd be very rough (to the point of being comical) for us to do a show. The music we've worked on is primarily hip hop/electronic. I really want to get out there just to see the city, and see a few new things for myself. Game will we be primarily on the back burner because all my focus will be towards putting on a good show regardless of the crowd size.

I'm interested in what directions you could direct me in out there as well, hit me up with a dm when you get the chance.

overall this is a great thread.

[Luckystar]

(12-10-2011 03:09 AM)K-man Wrote:  

I meant that 95% of the glamorous girls in Bulgaria (and those who think they are glamorous) acquire this mentality where they think they are too good to fuck a guy who just met them and gamed them. They hope to sell themselves for a certain price - not necessarily cash, could be nights out in VIP clubs, limo rides, gifts, spa treatments, appearances on Bulgarian TV, etc.
Good to hear that still some exist who can be gamed and banged just like that.

Agreed. Most super club girls (ie. glamour girls) are undercover hoes that DO have a price. It's a matter of method of transaction (shopping, dinner, VIP, sponsorship or straight cash hommie) and how much.

Sorry to say that. These girls, in general, aren't the wholesome girls that most EE girls are. I would say stating otherwise is quite contrary at large.

[Luckystar]

(12-08-2011 08:46 PM)BalkanCynic Wrote:  

(12-08-2011 12:21 PM)sine wave killer Wrote:  

I'm curious to how the nightlife scene is there. I'm a musician and I have a contact out in Sofia, I really want to get out there to do a show but he keeps telling that the music scene is too over saturated with bs (a la the states). I have a hard time believing this but my contact was born and bred in Sofia. I know all too well about Bulgarian women, hidden gems. I grew with a bunch of them out here in NY.

I looked for fellow musicians in Sofia. It's a hard task.

For bands, the most popular genres are:
1)Jazz: many live venues with a regular rotation of talented musicians
2)Classic rock/heavy metal: popular with teenagers and the middle class
... and to a lesser extent reggae and modern hybrids of bulgarian folk music.

Yes, the music scene there is certainly over saturated with bullshit, but a much different type of bullshit than you'd find in NY. Part of the problem is that Bulgarians aren't a very inventive breed. They love to imitate. And even if you were to put together a decent band, you'd have a hell of a time to get people to come out and check out your act.. the love for chalga and metal runs deep (oh wait, did someone say chalga-metal? hmm, hadn't thought of that mix before).

If you're still interested, I can probably point you in the right direction to make this dream happen.

I would like to start a chalga metal band. Care to join me?

[Lumiere]

(12-23-2011 08:24 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

I would like to start a chalga metal band. Care to join me?

Sure. I will play rhythm guitar.

[Pilgrim37]

(12-10-2011 07:12 AM)Layercake Wrote:  

(12-10-2011 03:09 AM)K-man Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 08:58 AM)Layercake Wrote:  

Hi K-Man
Yes she certainly is a celebrity there. I think she is always on BG TV. I'm assuming you live there.
When you quote "I thought her price was a little higher than that?" - I hope you're not implying she is a prostitute because she is a friend of mine.
Also these photos were before she was dating an MMA fighter. She was single and doesn't cheat, plus she isn't dating the fighter anymore.

I meant that 95% of the glamorous girls in Bulgaria (and those who think they are glamorous) acquire this mentality where they think they are too good to fuck a guy who just met them and gamed them. They hope to sell themselves for a certain price - not necessarily cash, could be nights out in VIP clubs, limo rides, gifts, spa treatments, appearances on Bulgarian TV, etc.
Good to hear that still some exist who can be gamed and banged just like that.

No offence taken K-Man, however you should not be too judgemental on the generic pool of Glamourous Bulgarian Girls. You need to dig a little deeper to uncover more.

In Zlati's case, when we met, it was just at the time of her 1st Playboy shot, she wasn't famous at all then. She comes from a very poor family in Bourgas (I've been to her Mum's very tiny flat), she has no father to support the family. This is the main reason she started modelling. To put food on the table. She's actually a very normal, smart girl, whom without any agencies or managers, or without even trying has become hugely famous in BG. Now hopefully she can put her Mum in a decent pad.

From memory we went on one or two Dinner dates over 4 weeks. (I rarely do dinner dates with Girls unless we're dating but I was hungry). We went dutch on one and I paid for the 2nd. $20 or less. Apart from that we just partied hard. Alone and with friends. Everyone took turns in buying rounds including Zlati. No champagne, just beer, vodka and a headache.

I've now had 5 private messages from players on here wanted me to give them her contact details when they are in BG. Haha...seriously guys.

Nice score Layercake, you're quite the International Playboy!

What do you work as? Seems like you spend a few months a year wandering the hotspots and the undiscovered spots?

[Luckystar]

(12-23-2011 11:04 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

(12-23-2011 08:24 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

I would like to start a chalga metal band. Care to join me?

Sure. I will play rhythm guitar.

OK, BCynic...that's two of us. Now, tell us you are accepting your Chalga destiny...

[BalkanCynic]

(12-23-2011 02:17 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(12-23-2011 11:04 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

(12-23-2011 08:24 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

I would like to start a chalga metal band. Care to join me?

Sure. I will play rhythm guitar.

OK, BCynic...that's two of us. Now, tell us you are accepting your Chalga destiny...

[Lumiere]

Both obviously.

[Luckystar]

I'll craft a pot belly and dye my hair bleach blonde to master the Aziz look.

You guys can sport the chapless pants with pasties on your nipples.

We'll all wear the oversized motorcycle jackets.

Album title can be Bulgarian Democracy. (because I can't imagine it be finished faster than the glorious Chinese Democracy album).