[WesternCancer]

http://www.textsfromlastnight.com/Text-R...37391.html

(202): I've got a whole match.com system. Triple book. First dates always get the 6pm happy hour drinks slot. 8pm dinner goes to a girl where I think I can close the deal. 10pm slot goes to the sure thing in case of emergency, but 6 can always trump 8 and 8 always trumps 10. Just blame it on a dead iPhone battery.
(202): That, my friend, is how I bang 50 new girls a year. Not luck at all. It's science and statistics.

someone on my facebook posted this and of course a "beta" backlash ensued.
Funny thing is the guy in the text is still taking girls to dinner as closing method instead of from drinks to his place. He should use Tuthmosis' First-date bangs recipe. I highly doubt the 50 new girls a year thing because of this, but it just goes to show once more the 'dating norms' in practice by self proclaimed players.

Do you guys have friends who appear to be "naturals" but still get caught up in actions that are considered detrimental around here?

Isn't the DC area code 202? I bet the guy is a reader of roosh/roissy.

[Basil Ransom]

I can't imagine closing on two dates in one night. You can also double-book, instead. I'm starting to do that now - good way to manage overcapacity and same day flaking.

[Chad Daring]

By the sounds of it that might be Gmac

[Tuthmosis]

That shit would be way too stressful for me. I would rather schedule dates on 7 days of the week and count on 1-2 flakes.

[germanico]

I have a friend that does exactly that. Arranges for 3 dates in a row and ditches #2 and #3 if #1 goes well.

But thats not him.

[WesternCancer]

(03-28-2012 05:48 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

By the sounds of it that might be Gmac

hahahahha

I couldn't do that. I'd be stressin that the second or third girl would catch me with the previous girl. A lot of my "dates" are either study sessions that end at my place, ice cream at mcdonalds or drinks. All within 5 minutes walking distance of eachother.

[Roosh]

Yes 202 is DC.

Technically that isn't triple booking though. He would have to put all three dates at the same time.

Years ago I read a PUA who did that and said that when more than one girl showed up he would sort of wait until all but one would drop. The one who stayed would feel like she won a prize and would bang him.

I might try this in Colombia if I go back, since they were so flakey you really had no choice but to double book.

[Basil Ransom]

(03-28-2012 06:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I might try this in Colombia if I go back, since they were so flakey you really had no choice but to double book.

Well, I confirm 4-6 hours before the date usually, so it'd never happen that two girls show up even if I do double book. I meant double booking in the days before the date.

I rarely if ever get a same-day confirmation and then get flaked on when the actual date time rolls around.

[Roosh]

(03-28-2012 07:02 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 06:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I might try this in Colombia if I go back, since they were so flakey you really had no choice but to double book.

Well, I confirm 4-6 hours before the date usually, so it'd never happen that two girls show up even if I do double book. I meant double booking in the days before the date.

I rarely if ever get a same-day confirmation and then get flaked on when the actual date time rolls around.

Have you been to Colombia?

The girls will say they're on the way when they have no plans to show up.

[Samseau]

50 bangs per year off online dating in DC?

I'm skeptical. I bet around 15-20 of those girls are straight up nasty. Good for him if he can get a boner for those kinds of girls, but I'd rather beat off.

[soup]

This sounds a little weird.

If you are able to get that many dates set up for one night, and are banging 50 girls a year, why does he even need to tripple-book the night in the first place? How can you have that much front-end game and still need to set up all those same night dates?

[Gmac]

I plead the fifth.

[Samseau]

(03-28-2012 08:51 PM)soup Wrote:  

This sounds a little weird.

If you are able to get that many dates set up for one night, and are banging 50 girls a year, why does he even need to tripple-book the night in the first place? How can you have that much front-end game and still need to set up all those same night dates?

I know man. Assuming he triple booked every night he got a bang, that's 150 potential dates setup through the internet.

1. You know he's gotta be exaggerating here. Since online dating is mass-messaging, that means he's emailing thousands of women in the area. He'd exhaust his dating pool of attractive in under a year.

2. But if he's not exaggerating, the quality of the women has to be way way low. Online dating with this many numbers?

In the D.C. area?

While I don't believe online dating women are all beasts, I do believe that, in general, the quality of women online is lower than in the real world.

So the only way to pull so many dates is to message lots of the uglier ones. There's no way around it.

[Roosh]

Guys lie about their numbers quite a bit. I never ask a guy "How many girls did you bang in X?" You will never get a straight answer. Same if you ask a woman too.

It's even more likely to be a lie when a guy is telling you numbers without you asking first. The only exception is if that number is really low...

If a guy says, "I went to Brazil for a month and I KILLED it... I banged two girls," then he's probably telling the truth.

[Samseau]

(03-29-2012 06:47 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Guys le about their numbers quite a bit. I never ask a guy "How many girls did you bang in X?" You will never get a straight answer. Same if you ask a woman too.

It's even more likely to be a lie when a guy is telling you numbers without you asking first. The only exception is if that number is really low...

If a guy says, "I went to Brazil for a month and I KILLED it... I banged two girls," then he's probably telling the truth.

Not only does every guy lie about their number, but a lot of guys will bang nasty fat chicks to boost their notch count.

I'm skeptical of almost all men who claim to have high notch counts; the best way for me to evaluate a guy is to see his game live, in-field. The next best way is to evaluate his game writings on the internet.

Given how infrequently guys give good advice on the internet, I never believe the guys who sign up here and say "I've fucked 30 girls in one year." Sure you did, buddy.

[Roosh]

Also I've had VERY CLOSE friends lie to me about thier number that didn't come out until later. Or they said they banged a girl that they didn't.

Or like Samseau said they could be telling the truth but they are boning 4s. I judge a man by the quality of his advice, not his statistics.

[Samseau]

There's just way too much emphasis put upon notch-count. It's completely unjustified.


Guy 1: A guy born into a rich family, who is 6'2'', is jacked, and has model good looks will pull lots of women without ever needing tight game.

Guy 2: The man born into a poor family, is 5'6'', weak, with average looks, will have a hell of a time pulling women.


It's far more impressive for Guy 2 to get laid with an attractive woman, which is why I would ask Guy 2 over Guy 1 for game advice.

[Tuthmosis]

Co-sign. Big notch counts and figures make me very suspicious. Not only that, they only say half the story. My "notches" have been slowing, for instance, in, say, the last month because I'm trying to level-up to hotter/cooler chicks. I'm passing on more prospects because: (1) I'm busy; (2) I can empty my balls without investing very much time/money on a new less-than-stellar prospect.

I have like five OKAY-looking chicks in my phone I could hit up, if I really wanted to pad my numbers. I won't, though.

[el mechanico]

(03-29-2012 10:54 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Co-sign. Big notch counts and figures make me very suspicious. Not only that, they only say half the story. My "notches" have been slowing, for instance, in, say, the last month because I'm trying to level-up to hotter/cooler chicks. I'm passing on more prospects because: (1) I'm busy; (2) I can empty my balls without investing very much time/money on a new less-than-stellar prospect.

I have like five OKAY-looking chicks in my phone I could hit up, if I really wanted to pad my numbers. I won't, though.

It's a lot of work to bang more than one new girl a week but that triple book thing is something that I do so there may be some truth to it. I have two dates tonight so far and Lothario is here and I have my kid tonight. I will get Lothario going with the little one in tow then text my sluts and see which one I can con over to my house later. It's work.

[Basil Ransom]

(03-28-2012 07:09 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 07:02 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 06:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I might try this in Colombia if I go back, since they were so flakey you really had no choice but to double book.

Well, I confirm 4-6 hours before the date usually, so it'd never happen that two girls show up even if I do double book. I meant double booking in the days before the date.

I rarely if ever get a same-day confirmation and then get flaked on when the actual date time rolls around.

Have you been to Colombia?

The girls will say they're on the way when they have no plans to show up.

Wow, I think that would make my head explode.

[tomtud]

(03-28-2012 07:09 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 07:02 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(03-28-2012 06:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I might try this in Colombia if I go back, since they were so flakey you really had no choice but to double book.

Have you been to Colombia?

The girls will say they're on the way when they have no plans to show up.

Roosh, wouldn't the logical thing to do is not show up or cancel on them as a pre strategy. For example, having no intentions of meeting her that night and scheduling a date just to cancel. Plus I am assuming that is a cultural flaw with young Colombians, I am assuming this is applicable to young ones 23 and below. Being disresptful of other peoples time, will have to be countered with disrespecting their time.

I'm gonna be in Colombia this summer, so with the young ones who I feel are more likely to flake will get the text the day before of meeting at the best restaurant in the city etc, only to show up and find out I'm not there or cancelled at the last minute. Ex. Sick.

[Greek kamaki]

I have done it several time in Ukraine.Serial dating involves dating one girl at 18.00(before that they usually work),the next at 19.30,the next at 21.00 and the last one at 23.00 with option for clubbing.Date at 18.00 takes place in coffee shop date at 19.30 can be a dinner.It is important in this case that all dates ake place close so you do not have to move away to meet the next girl.Basically I meet all of them in the same place first.
It is quite tricky.In many cases a girl waits for you in the prearranged place while you are still in the middle of the other date because the former girl was late.Any minute of late appearance of the girl can cause increased embarassment because this means that next date is lkikely to get cancelled.Girls know about this and they tend to play this card of delay(this is one of the reasons they appear late on dates).Of course if you are super fast and calibrating you can arrange a date for the case she is late so you get a sure girl who lives closet to visit in the meantime.I tell them I have this vaccuum now come to meet and they may come.Or I pick up other girls while waiting for the delayed one.
There are cases when you kiss a girl while the next one calls frantically to tell she is already waiting for 20 minutes.In all cases a guy displays an alpha behaviour by doing this while it is not his purpose.
Another thing that works is serial dating on a beach resort where you fuck one girl on the beach and then you meet the next one sitting on cafe next to beach.In many cases I was covered by sand and had to walk near shadows for the sand not to show off to the next girl.Or I kissed the girl good buy just 20 meters away from the girl waiting in cafe(without any of them knowing about each other).
But in small cities serial dating sucks.The center is so small that the girls meet each other inevitably.I had tragic situation with girls shouting at each other and claiming every absurd thing about their relationship with me(at least there has been no beating between women over me but I suppose other guys had this priviledge as well).

[soup]

(03-29-2012 10:54 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Co-sign. Big notch counts and figures make me very suspicious. Not only that, they only say half the story. My "notches" have been slowing, for instance, in, say, the last month because I'm trying to level-up to hotter/cooler chicks. I'm passing on more prospects because: (1) I'm busy; (2) I can empty my balls without investing very much time/money on a new less-than-stellar prospect.

I have like five OKAY-looking chicks in my phone I could hit up, if I really wanted to pad my numbers. I won't, though.

So, how do you define big notch count? Is it a specific number, or is it a ratio of high bangs to low effort? Maybe the success ratio is more important because it better reflects your abilities. I think it would be better to be a guy that gets what he wants, when he wants it, than to be a guy who gets a lot of notches but gets a lot of flakes or non-sealed deals to achieve it (this is sort of like me- but my notch count within 2011 was 21 different girls, don't know if that's considered high or not, but definitely above average).

Also, should hotter girls count more than the others?

[Nonpareil]

That is pipelining to the nth degree, though like many of you I doubt that he really bangs 50 chicks year in year out solely from online (how many women do you need to OL message to get 50 bangs? 1000? 10,000? That sounds like a ton of work, especially given that average quality will be lower).

I don't think I've ever triple-booked dates, but I have, and certainly (given how flighty and unreliable the modern western woman is) recommend that if you number-crunch a girl and set a drink date with her, you send feelers to your stable until you get one on the hook for a few hours later to counteract the flake mechanic that women are born with.


As usual, the comments section is filled with winners.

Quote:

Submitted by mthib on Mar 28, 12 at 1:21pm

It's assholes like you that make life tough for anyone actually looking for something meaningful...fuck you buddy

Translation: 'It's your job to make it easier for the rest of us!', do men have entitlement complexes now too?

[Hotwheels]

From the numbers of broads I see online in cities I don't see how this is not plausible.

Not saying I see myself scheduling 3 "dates" every night, mostly because I don't aim for dates, but I'd be embarrassed if I didn't bang 30+ online broads a year in a city situation. 50 shouldn't be THAT difficult assuming you have the time available for getting them warmed up for sexy time and the logistics.

Hell I knocked out 3 in a town of 50K in a month, while working on the road, without much effort other than signing onto pof. A city with millions of broads would be like shooting fish in a barrel.