[Moma]

Let's remember that Pdog is 17. When I was 17, I was emailing some lizard on some hookup shyt, I met her online when gremlins had not yet found their way into cyber world. My game was still raw and when I spat that at her, she asked me what I wanted.

I told her I wanted to fcuk (was keeping it real). Obviously since it was conservative ass England and I was speaking to a black lizard who like to front, she didn't respond again..ever.

In retro, I should have strung her out and then pounced. But then again, I was only 17.

Pdog you probably shouldn't have called her a stupid ho (that wasn't the right time for the blast) but you'll know better next time.

Water under the bridge. Onto the next one...

[Yams]

Probably shouldn't game on the phone or through text when your buddies are around. Its funny to see how our standards just skyrocket when our peers are watching.

[Zep]

"Stupid Hoe"? you put your dick in her then called her a whore for allowing it. GRRREEAAAATTT.

You're the kind of idiot that ruins things for everyone by making girls seriously regret their actions.

Time to apologize.

[Blunt]

When you're already planning on cutting a girl loose saying anything rude on top of that is kinda cruel. Rejecting her is already going to hurt her.

Plus be careful about putting your game out there for all of your 'friends' to see. It can bite you in the ass later.

[scribblec]

(03-06-2012 11:22 AM)Zep Wrote:  

"Stupid Hoe"? you put your dick in her then called her a whore for allowing it. GRRREEAAAATTT.

You're the kind of idiot that ruins things for everyone by making girls seriously regret their actions.

Time to apologize.

i dont think he got his dick in her otherwise he wouldnt be making this thread.

and who cares if girls regret there actions because the moment they are turned on they forget all about there past slutty actions

[joehoya]

(03-06-2012 10:09 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Let's remember that Pdog is 17...

17? OK, now that makes sense. I cannot count all of the completely idiotic shit that came out of my mouth at 17.

Just remember, it isn't beta to treat people with respect. Also, needlessly insulting/hurting someone else to impress your friends is something you will want to grow out of. Become your own man. At 17, peer pressure is a bitch. Just make sure that you don't become one of those guys who is 30 years old and still ruled by what "his boys" think.

[Samseau]

(03-06-2012 02:35 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:02 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Meh, I'm indifferent to why he basically treated her like garbage. But since he's asking us "why did she snap", I think the answer is pretty obvious.

I'm not asking why she got pissed, but the extent of her anger and the phone call especially caught me off card. Also, I added the disclaimer at the start that my "boys" sitting around watching the whole thing influenced my replies. They fed me the "When hell freezers over" line, but I chose to name drop You A Stupid Hoe (it's a horrible Nicki Minaj song).

I admit I cared more about showing off to them than gaming her.

Fact is, I don't really give a fuck about this girl, especially after she flaked on me before hand. She rejected me once, I wasn't going to let her reject me again.

Okay man, it's time to have a talk.


If you want to be a player, from now until you die, you must never let rejection bother you.

I repeat: Under no circumstances should the possibility of rejection deter you from any action with any woman.


Don't feel angry if a girl rejects you or blows you off. Simply take note and move on. Treat her with less respect going forward, but don't make it a point to "get revenge" or anything stupid like that.

All it comes down to is one thing: Do you want to bang her?

If yes, take into account her prior flake, and make her work harder to get you - but you should still be attainable.
If no, ignore her.


When you were with your friends, you must have told them how she blew you off earlier, and all of your beta buddies thought "Let's get even!!!1" But of course, this is stupid. The reason to become a player isn't to satisfy your friends or your ego. The reason to be a player is to satisfy yourself.

By seeking revenge over this girl, you've placed your happiness in her hands. You needed to make her feel bad in order to feel good about yourself. This dangerous. Never put your happiness in someone else's hands, or else they could hurt you.

Instead, how you act towards a woman, or any woman, needs to be mostly indifferent to what she has done to you in the past. Instead of insulting her and blowing her off, you could have done this instead:

Her:"Dayum when are you free?"
Me: "When hell freezes over"
Her: "You were pretty keen on me at ______ (where we met). I miss you, want to meet up?"
Me: "I'm with my buddies now. Go to XXX (list your house) @ 12:00pm and we can hang later."


See what I did there? She's already proven herself to be a flake, so there's no sense in trying to go out of your way to meet her. She's unreliable or evil.

But, by making her go to your house after you're done hanging with your friends, what do you have to lose? You lose no time, you lose no standing with your friends, and you can possibly get a booty call. Win-win-win. If she doesn't show up, the end result would have been the same as if you were to have called her a "stupid hoe".

But, since you're a player and you don't need any one woman's validation to complete yourself as a man, it wouldn't have mattered if she blew you off again. It's no skin off your dick, because you should already have plans to get some new girls or already have another girl waiting for your cock somewhere else.

Because you've insulted this girl, she's going to seek revenge on you. She won't ever want to fuck you again, and she'll do her best to cockblock you by spreading lies and rumors about you to all of her friends. Bad move insulting her.

Take the lesson forward, bro. Never let a woman have power over your emotions.

[WesternCancer]

Because you've insulted this girl, she's going to seek revenge on you. She won't ever want to fuck you again, and she'll do her best to cockblock you by spreading lies and rumors about you to all of her friends.

Definitely true in highschool. I can't even begin to count the amount of stupid shit girls will do at that age to get back at someone. Shit travels fast in the hallways and the last thing you want to do is a bad rep to hurt your pussy-slaying expeditions.

Great breakdown Samseau.

[soup]

(03-06-2012 01:03 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:35 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:02 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Meh, I'm indifferent to why he basically treated her like garbage. But since he's asking us "why did she snap", I think the answer is pretty obvious.

I'm not asking why she got pissed, but the extent of her anger and the phone call especially caught me off card. Also, I added the disclaimer at the start that my "boys" sitting around watching the whole thing influenced my replies. They fed me the "When hell freezers over" line, but I chose to name drop You A Stupid Hoe (it's a horrible Nicki Minaj song).

I admit I cared more about showing off to them than gaming her.

Fact is, I don't really give a fuck about this girl, especially after she flaked on me before hand. She rejected me once, I wasn't going to let her reject me again.

Okay man, it's time to have a talk.


If you want to be a player, from now until you die, you must never let rejection bother you.

I repeat: Under no circumstances should the possibility of rejection deter you from any action with any woman.


Don't feel angry if a girl rejects you or blows you off. Simply take note and move on. Treat her with less respect going forward, but don't make it a point to "get revenge" or anything stupid like that.

All it comes down to is one thing: Do you want to bang her?

If yes, take into account her prior flake, and make her work harder to get you - but you should still be attainable.
If no, ignore her.


When you were with your friends, you must have told them how she blew you off earlier, and all of your beta buddies thought "Let's get even!!!1" But of course, this is stupid. The reason to become a player isn't to satisfy your friends or your ego. The reason to be a player is to satisfy yourself.

By seeking revenge over this girl, you've placed your happiness in her hands. You needed to make her feel bad in order to feel good about yourself. This dangerous. Never put your happiness in someone else's hands, or else they could hurt you.

Instead, how you act towards a woman, or any woman, needs to be mostly indifferent to what she has done to you in the past. Instead of insulting her and blowing her off, you could have done this instead:

Her:"Dayum when are you free?"
Me: "When hell freezes over"
Her: "You were pretty keen on me at ______ (where we met). I miss you, want to meet up?"
Me: "I'm with my buddies now. Go to XXX (list your house) @ 12:00pm and we can hang later."


See what I did there? She's already proven herself to be a flake, so there's no sense in trying to go out of your way to meet her. She's unreliable or evil.

But, by making her go to your house after you're done hanging with your friends, what do you have to lose? You lose no time, you lose no standing with your friends, and you can possibly get a booty call. Win-win-win. If she doesn't show up, the end result would have been the same as if you were to have called her a "stupid hoe".

But, since you're a player and you don't need any one woman's validation to complete yourself as a man, it wouldn't have mattered if she blew you off again. It's no skin off your dick, because you should already have plans to get some new girls or already have another girl waiting for your cock somewhere else.

Because you've insulted this girl, she's going to seek revenge on you. She won't ever want to fuck you again, and she'll do her best to cockblock you by spreading lies and rumors about you to all of her friends. Bad move insulting her.

Take the lesson forward, bro. Never let a woman have power over your emotions.

I'd have given +1 for this awesome post.

[theIVth]

"But, since you're a player and you don't need any one woman's validation to complete yourself as a man, it wouldn't have mattered if she blew you off again. It's no skin off your dick, because you should already have plans to get some new girls or already have another girl waiting for your cock somewhere else."

This

[Thesoloist]

(03-06-2012 01:51 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Why'd you call her a stupid hoe instead of meeting up?

This

[Sentrix]

A simple,

"Miss me? Alright, come over to my place. We'll have some fun"

...would have been sufficient.

[lurker123123]

(03-06-2012 01:19 PM)soup Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 01:03 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:35 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:02 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Meh, I'm indifferent to why he basically treated her like garbage. But since he's asking us "why did she snap", I think the answer is pretty obvious.

I'm not asking why she got pissed, but the extent of her anger and the phone call especially caught me off card. Also, I added the disclaimer at the start that my "boys" sitting around watching the whole thing influenced my replies. They fed me the "When hell freezers over" line, but I chose to name drop You A Stupid Hoe (it's a horrible Nicki Minaj song).

I admit I cared more about showing off to them than gaming her.

Fact is, I don't really give a fuck about this girl, especially after she flaked on me before hand. She rejected me once, I wasn't going to let her reject me again.

Okay man, it's time to have a talk.


If you want to be a player, from now until you die, you must never let rejection bother you.

I repeat: Under no circumstances should the possibility of rejection deter you from any action with any woman.


Don't feel angry if a girl rejects you or blows you off. Simply take note and move on. Treat her with less respect going forward, but don't make it a point to "get revenge" or anything stupid like that.

All it comes down to is one thing: Do you want to bang her?

If yes, take into account her prior flake, and make her work harder to get you - but you should still be attainable.
If no, ignore her.


When you were with your friends, you must have told them how she blew you off earlier, and all of your beta buddies thought "Let's get even!!!1" But of course, this is stupid. The reason to become a player isn't to satisfy your friends or your ego. The reason to be a player is to satisfy yourself.

By seeking revenge over this girl, you've placed your happiness in her hands. You needed to make her feel bad in order to feel good about yourself. This dangerous. Never put your happiness in someone else's hands, or else they could hurt you.

Instead, how you act towards a woman, or any woman, needs to be mostly indifferent to what she has done to you in the past. Instead of insulting her and blowing her off, you could have done this instead:

Her:"Dayum when are you free?"
Me: "When hell freezes over"
Her: "You were pretty keen on me at ______ (where we met). I miss you, want to meet up?"
Me: "I'm with my buddies now. Go to XXX (list your house) @ 12:00pm and we can hang later."


See what I did there? She's already proven herself to be a flake, so there's no sense in trying to go out of your way to meet her. She's unreliable or evil.

But, by making her go to your house after you're done hanging with your friends, what do you have to lose? You lose no time, you lose no standing with your friends, and you can possibly get a booty call. Win-win-win. If she doesn't show up, the end result would have been the same as if you were to have called her a "stupid hoe".

But, since you're a player and you don't need any one woman's validation to complete yourself as a man, it wouldn't have mattered if she blew you off again. It's no skin off your dick, because you should already have plans to get some new girls or already have another girl waiting for your cock somewhere else.

Because you've insulted this girl, she's going to seek revenge on you. She won't ever want to fuck you again, and she'll do her best to cockblock you by spreading lies and rumors about you to all of her friends. Bad move insulting her.

Take the lesson forward, bro. Never let a woman have power over your emotions.

I'd have given +1 for this awesome post.

what he said

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Excellent summary, Samseau!
Virtual +1

[scorpio]

I think a lot of you are being too hard on P-Dog. At the same time, I think P-Dog could have done some things better.

Too hard on P-Dog: He's 17. When you game girls in that bracket, they are like untrained puppies. You can generally say that girls under 25 are operating in a Culture of Disrespect. Being cool and indifferent to their disrespect is not an option for me. That Houston gave him a thumbs up in his response kind of tells you something. You have to whack 'em, so I agree with the intent. There's a good chance that girl would have flaked on him again just to test his response.

Where P-Dog could have done better: The older G's are giving some good advice as well, but it's more apt for more mature women. More importantly, you missed out on some key words of surrender that a more experienced G (like myself) would have picked up on and calibrated his response appropriately:

Her: "You were pretty keen on me at ______ (where we met). I miss you, want to meet up?"

Think about what I bolded. What chick says that?

Do not call her. Do not apologize. If she calls you, create a hurdle that she has to clear to meet up with you on your terms with zero inconvenience to you. Otherwise, move on.

[FretDancer]

Spot on Samseau and ElJefe, great advice for life.

Calling her a "stupid hoe" was plain innecessary and immature, although you already said you did it to feel good in front of your friends? A real player doesn't need validation from others by doing stupid peer pressure actions, he will get it eventually without the need to do so.

Like you said, you don't give a fuck about her, and that's fine, its not a big deal actually, at least for you anyways. Just take this experience and forum insight into consideration next time you're on the same boat, or even yet, on the other boat.

[YoungGunner]

You should have fucked her, taped it, then put it on the forum





No need to let pussy go to waste

[Deluge]

I'm taking all your advice to heart. What I said was ridiculously immature.

Tuth asked about her looks, just restating this girl was nothing special looks wise. Wasn't worth the effort really.

(03-06-2012 02:31 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

Do not call her. Do not apologize. If she calls you, create a hurdle that she has to clear to meet up with you on your terms with zero inconvenience to you. Otherwise, move on.

She did call, but didn't say anything then hung up about 20 seconds later.

And Samseau, you're right. I'm going to learn for next time. I appreciate all of the advice my forum "uncles" (referencing this thread: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-10971.html) have given me.

[germanico]

(03-06-2012 02:32 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

@germanico: Not to derail this thread, but who is that in your avatar? Is that you? For some reason, I've always found it to be hilarious.

Yes, thats me. Come to think of it, I DO look funny, but I cant say what it is. Ill look for something cooler. Im shaved now, so the pic doesnt even represents me anymore.

(03-06-2012 06:24 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

No reply. Deleted her number again (took me a couple messages to infer who it was when she texted). Fact is, if she flakes on me and then reinitiates contact two months later saying she misses me, then bad luck to her. I'm not a little puppy dog that would come running back eagerly to her the second she calls on me. She had her chance with me and she blew it.

I remember now Roosh made a post back when he was in Denmark about never letting a girl reject you twice. Same principle applies here.

I see your point, and you are right. Girl turned you down and now you are not going to be available at her call. Even so, there is no need to be a dick. Just dont answer or just say you are not interested or not available.

There is never the need to insult a woman, and its not cool to do it. Be a man, not a sour child.

Now, the reason you rejected her the second time, was it because she rejected you the first, or because you wasnt really interested in having sex with her?

Because if you DID wanted to sex her, then all you had to do is give her the chance to earn it and make it up to you.

[Walderschmidt]

(03-06-2012 01:03 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:35 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:02 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Meh, I'm indifferent to why he basically treated her like garbage. But since he's asking us "why did she snap", I think the answer is pretty obvious.

I'm not asking why she got pissed, but the extent of her anger and the phone call especially caught me off card. Also, I added the disclaimer at the start that my "boys" sitting around watching the whole thing influenced my replies. They fed me the "When hell freezers over" line, but I chose to name drop You A Stupid Hoe (it's a horrible Nicki Minaj song).

I admit I cared more about showing off to them than gaming her.

Fact is, I don't really give a fuck about this girl, especially after she flaked on me before hand. She rejected me once, I wasn't going to let her reject me again.

Okay man, it's time to have a talk.


If you want to be a player, from now until you die, you must never let rejection bother you.

I repeat: Under no circumstances should the possibility of rejection deter you from any action with any woman.


Don't feel angry if a girl rejects you or blows you off. Simply take note and move on. Treat her with less respect going forward, but don't make it a point to "get revenge" or anything stupid like that.

All it comes down to is one thing: Do you want to bang her?

If yes, take into account her prior flake, and make her work harder to get you - but you should still be attainable.
If no, ignore her.


When you were with your friends, you must have told them how she blew you off earlier, and all of your beta buddies thought "Let's get even!!!1" But of course, this is stupid. The reason to become a player isn't to satisfy your friends or your ego. The reason to be a player is to satisfy yourself.

By seeking revenge over this girl, you've placed your happiness in her hands. You needed to make her feel bad in order to feel good about yourself. This dangerous. Never put your happiness in someone else's hands, or else they could hurt you.

Instead, how you act towards a woman, or any woman, needs to be mostly indifferent to what she has done to you in the past. Instead of insulting her and blowing her off, you could have done this instead:

Her:"Dayum when are you free?"
Me: "When hell freezes over"
Her: "You were pretty keen on me at ______ (where we met). I miss you, want to meet up?"
Me: "I'm with my buddies now. Go to XXX (list your house) @ 12:00pm and we can hang later."


See what I did there? She's already proven herself to be a flake, so there's no sense in trying to go out of your way to meet her. She's unreliable or evil.

But, by making her go to your house after you're done hanging with your friends, what do you have to lose? You lose no time, you lose no standing with your friends, and you can possibly get a booty call. Win-win-win. If she doesn't show up, the end result would have been the same as if you were to have called her a "stupid hoe".

But, since you're a player and you don't need any one woman's validation to complete yourself as a man, it wouldn't have mattered if she blew you off again. It's no skin off your dick, because you should already have plans to get some new girls or already have another girl waiting for your cock somewhere else.

Because you've insulted this girl, she's going to seek revenge on you. She won't ever want to fuck you again, and she'll do her best to cockblock you by spreading lies and rumors about you to all of her friends. Bad move insulting her.

Take the lesson forward, bro. Never let a woman have power over your emotions.

@Samseau


@P Dog,

It sucks to make mistakes like this. I'm 19 myself, and have lost several opportunities due similar mistakes.

The good news is that you're only 17, so you have plenty of time to learn from your mistakes while the price of learning is not high.

Wald