[Hotwheels]

I kinda saw something like this coming the past week or so, what with certain members waving their dick around basically demanding special privileges.

Roosh's response to Mixx at the beginning of this thread sums it up;

Quote:

I find it hard to believe that you need a number to feel worthy or recognized instead of the many replies and praise you get for your contributions.

If the only reason any member is contributing is to get a "rep point" instead of learning, sharing, and connecting with others, then maybe they should re-evaluate their reasons for being here. This isn't high school.

As has been stated by others, rep points end up being gamed, played, and becoming nothing more than a validating e-dick over time. Anyone that has spent a little time reading the forum can figure out who the guys giving out gold are. Besides, most of the really good info is given out in the discussion relating to a topic, not the original thread starter that inevitably would garner the most rep points.

Also, if someone gives out bullshit advice someone will shortly be along to call them on it. Rep points are superfluous if one actually reads a bit here.

[MikeCF]

LOL at Roosh being abrasive.

No one thinks that.

Roosh is a great guy.

The question is whether his recent decision - and way of doing it - was whack.

Roosh's decision alienated Mixx while making lurkers and people who don't post legit info happy, because now everyone is "equal."

The result speaks for itself.

[Amour Fou]

(03-06-2012 06:43 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Timoteo, OGNorcal and Speakeasy were also very underrated in terms of rep points.

That is the thing...

I'd add Chad Daring to that list.

There were solid members that were ""underrated"" in terms of rep-points, but they, as far as I can tell, were always treated and listened in like terms with members with much more rep points than them.

My point?

Independent of rep-points, we will know who are the solid contributors of the forum.

This rep point thing has led to much pettiness within our community, the way I see it.

[MikeCF]

(03-06-2012 06:12 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

In my humble opinion, you guys are acting just like validation-seeking women. There's nothing to gain from rep but a skewed sense of bragging rights. Didn't do much for the bodybuilder forums... with dudes that will "rep back." It was fun while it lasted, but it won't be missed. Wise up and stick around, or good riddance I say.

Do you check your blog's stats?

Do you care if 100 or 1000 people visit?

You know the truth.

People trash rep points but look at blog stats.

It's the same thing.

"Validation."

Or some would call it, "Recognition for a job well done."

What's wrong with that?

[Roosh]

(03-06-2012 06:59 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Meanwhile, at NaughtyNomad's Bizarro Forum...



Let's not forget, fellas: we have it good here. You may be able to nick-pick about this and that, but we don't have this March of the Trolls, haterade bullshit here.

Pretty sure I banned that Jesse character from the blog for spamming his "Seduction" blog.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-06-2012 07:03 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

LOL at Roosh being abrasive.

Especially in defense of a guy who was banned from here for being a monumental roid-rage douche and turd. NN is still new at this, but I won't be surprised when he starts banning people over there because they over-play their hands. I knew it was only a matter of time before BBL would start complaining over there.

The funny part is that he pretty much describes NN's forum as a place for banned trolls from RVF.

[CJ]

(03-06-2012 06:35 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

It's really a testament to how bad things got that guys remembered each other counts. Someone above remembered that I stopped at 69 (no coincidence).

That was me, and I only remembered it because you had exactly 69, and that's how my mind works.

The only other ones I remember were Mixx's (although I thought he had 100 even) and that guy that had around -11 before getting banned.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-06-2012 06:18 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Before it was like a broke hostel forum.

Now has some real players.

Vice: I like the thanks system. Will look into it.

MikeCF: There are members with the highest rep counts on the forum who agree with this decision. You're making it sound more oppressive than it is, like I'm moderating posts.

It's interesting how G, who had the 2nd highest rep, is laughing this off, while Mixx stormed out the room. I think Mixx may have used today's events as a pretext to something he was planning, as speakeasy explained. There was tension coming from his corner in recent weeks. In his case, I don't think there would be anything I could do, besides create a private clubhouse for him, that would satisfy his desire to be recognized for his contributions.

This forum is truly microcosm of society. I tweeted about it earlier (https://twitter.com/#!/rooshv/status/177055069202681857 ).

P.S. I guess I'll beat Mixx to 5,000.

I pretty much laugh off everything.

Life is too good for me to care about trivialities.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-06-2012 07:06 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 06:12 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

In my humble opinion, you guys are acting just like validation-seeking women. There's nothing to gain from rep but a skewed sense of bragging rights. Didn't do much for the bodybuilder forums... with dudes that will "rep back." It was fun while it lasted, but it won't be missed. Wise up and stick around, or good riddance I say.

Do you check your blog's stats?

Do you care if 100 or 1000 people visit?

You know the truth.

People trash rep points but look at blog stats.

It's the same thing.

"Validation."

Or some would call it, "Recognition for a job well done."

What's wrong with that?

Mike CF -

Don't "corner" Gmac.

That is the second time today.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11013-...#pid173561

[Spike]

(03-06-2012 06:55 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 06:51 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 06:43 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Neil was definitely an underrated member. So was Naughty Nomad, though he did post that one pic of an Armenian girl he claimed to swoop that someone later found on a random online site. That one was never explained.

Timoteo, OGNorcal and Speakeasy were also very underrated in terms of rep points.

I raised this point earlier.

Honestly, if there was any deflation, it was at the top.

Mixx has 100 rep points? He should have had 800.

Neil should have had more also, but he had like 40? With 1000 posts.

Hell, I had 4000 posts and 60?

Mixx had 4000 posts and 100?

Neil was doing pretty damn well if you think about it.


(Plus he bitched about it every day for three months, so he got a bunch of "courtesy rep points™")

Wait, Was this Beta?™ that I knew that?

I don't look at it that way. I don't think just because someone has made a lot of posts that means they deserve more points. I judge the quality of the posts, not really the quantity.

Neil dropped a very thorough data sheet about an off-the-beaten path country like Suriname (before I joined the forum, I think) and didn't receive a single rep point for it until way after he complained about that!

I think that's ridiculous. When a guy goes through great lengths to share data about a country that is so remote and unknown, he deserves some props.

Neil never got his just due under the old system. He had to speak out about that many times.

This is exactly how it happened and i complained about it once or twice not every day (but i assume that's a joke). I "bitched" and/"complained" about the rep system after that Suriname post that even had naked picture of the banged flag i got there. I had been going out while sick as a dog and still managed to capture a flag. While others were getting rep points for opening a thread on how to tie shoe laces or something. I found it unfair, just like some points i mentioned before in my post here. Like i said there, i only value rep point made a known guys. I'm not fishing for rep points nor do i want rep points like the one about my joke about toilets.

I had 29 rep points by the way, not 40. I gained quite a few lately after dropping some knowledge on here.

Anyway, its way past bed time here in my small country and i just spend the last 4 hours on this forum, Time to catch some zzzz's

[Chad Daring]

(03-06-2012 07:06 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 06:12 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

In my humble opinion, you guys are acting just like validation-seeking women. There's nothing to gain from rep but a skewed sense of bragging rights. Didn't do much for the bodybuilder forums... with dudes that will "rep back." It was fun while it lasted, but it won't be missed. Wise up and stick around, or good riddance I say.

Do you check your blog's stats?

Do you care if 100 or 1000 people visit?

You know the truth.

People trash rep points but look at blog stats.

It's the same thing.

"Validation."

Or some would call it, "Recognition for a job well done."

What's wrong with that?

Isn't being the most respected guy amongst a group of respectable guys recognition?

The rep system as it existed was like being the guy with the most Monopoly money. Yeah you might have had a lot, but anyone and everyone could give it out for anything and everything.

Guys like G, MiXX, yourself, Tuth, and all the others dont need rep, your words and personas speak for themselves.

[Screwston]

I didn't get a rep point for like 6 months. I think Mixx was actually the first one who gave it ha. I liked the system. It showed who at least attempted to contribute to the forum. Who had -11 rep points lmao?

[Kickb]

Roosh forum's response to the news of the reputation features being killed off

[Aliblahba]

I can't believe you little bitches are bitching. I had 312 rep points, and they were taken from me!!!!!!!! Hey, who is that Mixx character? I don't think he knows what the fuck he's talking about. Fuckin' newbie.

[Gmac]

(03-06-2012 07:06 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 06:12 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

In my humble opinion, you guys are acting just like validation-seeking women. There's nothing to gain from rep but a skewed sense of bragging rights. Didn't do much for the bodybuilder forums... with dudes that will "rep back." It was fun while it lasted, but it won't be missed. Wise up and stick around, or good riddance I say.

Do you check your blog's stats?

Do you care if 100 or 1000 people visit?

You know the truth.

People trash rep points but look at blog stats.

It's the same thing.

"Validation."

Or some would call it, "Recognition for a job well done."

What's wrong with that?

I guess maybe because this is an internet forum, not a job.

The best comparison I can think of off the top of my head is the "achievement" system in video games today. Sure you can feel good about your "points" or "rewards", but they're still ultimately pointless. Does anyone else really care? Not really.

So, you have to ask... was it a good idea to take something disruptive away that really just a few e-penises. Probably.

Ones reputation proceeds and defines them, not some green number on a screen. Any numbskull can figure that out.

I wonder what they would have done in the old days before the internet...?

Wait, was my argument beta?

[drymarro]

(03-06-2012 06:18 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Vice: I like the thanks system. Will look into it.

hey.. that was my idea =(

[Tuthmosis]

(03-06-2012 07:33 PM)drymarro Wrote:  

hey.. that was my idea =(

It was also your idea to start the "poll" that started this whole mess.

[scotian]

I tend to agree with MikeCF and feel like this forum got punk'ed in some ways by guys who felt it was unfair, life is unfair, deal with it! I liked the rep point system, it felt good to have your thread recognized by your peers, but if its gonna cause this much grief then good riddence.

I was also pretty choked to hear that Mixx left, hopefully he has a change of heart and comes back. His posts about everything Colombia on here helped me so much during my current stay in the country, I owe him big time.

Anyway if this is the kind of thing the forum needs to go through to keep it high quality then so be it, I have faith that Roosh will figure something out and things will be back to normal, hopefully with Mixx!

[Roosh]

"I started a thread for an elite forum on behalf of Mixx when I wouldn't even be invited based on his requirements." -drymarro

Is that beta?

[thegmanifesto]

(03-06-2012 07:40 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 07:33 PM)drymarro Wrote:  

hey.. that was my idea =(

It was also your idea to start the "poll" that started this whole mess.

Ha!

That was funny.

Damn, I was actually just reaching for my mouse to give you a rep point!!!!

(03-06-2012 07:42 PM)scotian Wrote:  

I was also pretty choked to hear that Mixx left, hopefully he has a change of heart and comes back. His posts about everything Colombia on here helped me so much during my current stay in the country, I owe him big time.

Put your money where your mouth is.

Shoot him some CASH.

[Moma]

(03-06-2012 06:51 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 06:43 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Neil was definitely an underrated member. So was Naughty Nomad, though he did post that one pic of an Armenian girl he claimed to swoop that someone later found on a random online site. That one was never explained.

Timoteo, OGNorcal and Speakeasy were also very underrated in terms of rep points.

I raised this point earlier.

Honestly, if there was any deflation, it was at the top.

Mixx has 100 rep points? He should have had 800.

Neil should have had more also, but he had like 40? With 1000 posts.

Hell, I had 4000 posts and 60? As, in I only dropped 60 good posts on here at most?

Mixx had 4000 posts and 100? As, in Mixx only dropped 100 good posts on here at most?

Neil was doing pretty damn well if you think about it.


(Plus he bitched about it every day for three months, so he got a bunch of courtesy rep points™)

Wait, Was this Beta?™ that I knew that?

What about me? I originated and patented the term lizard here. I even used it in New York and some cats chuckled. I don't get no love and no rep points for it??? What about me, Moma the Magnificent??

[thegmanifesto]

(03-06-2012 07:45 PM)Moma Wrote:  

What about me? I originated and patented the term lizard here. I even used it in New York and some cats chuckled. I don't get no love and no rep points for it??? What about me, Moma the Magnificent??

Wait, I thought "Mofo" coined the term "lizard"?

See I can't keep any of you guys straight anymore!

[Tuthmosis]

Not since the (then) Charlotte Hornets traded Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac has someone made a worse trade:

drymarro. Rep: 2

for

Mixx. Rep: 104

I hope we got some draft picks, at least.

[drymarro]

(03-06-2012 07:43 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

"I started a thread for an elite forum on behalf of Mixx when I wouldn't even be invited based on his requirements." -drymarro

Is that beta?

it's alpha because I spurred a revolution!
muahaha

(03-06-2012 07:48 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Not since the (then) Charlotte Hornets traded Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac has someone made a worse trade:

drymarro. Rep: 2

for

Mixx. Rep: 104

I hope we got some draft picks, at least.

LOL.

[Moma]

(03-06-2012 07:46 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 07:45 PM)Moma Wrote:  

What about me? I originated and patented the term lizard here. I even used it in New York and some cats chuckled. I don't get no love and no rep points for it??? What about me, Moma the Magnificent??

Wait, I thought "Mofo" coined the term "lizard"?

See I can't keep any of you guys straight anymore!

That's because you can't see my momalicious rep count. That set me apart from the other Brits, innit?