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#26

Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

Quote: (02-29-2012 03:08 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

She carries very little body fat, so I have little problem with her.

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She's getting her "thickness" from muscle mass rather than strategically placed flab. She's just a muscular girl-I can live with that. Still a little bigger than I personally prefer, but not in a bad way like some of the other women I've talked about in this thread.

I used to like those thick Brazilian bodies but I'm not feeling that anymore. Watermelon Woman's legs are WAY too big. I think it's nasty. It's like looking at horse legs or something.
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#27

Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

Quote: (02-29-2012 04:26 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  

There is a shortage of educated, unincarcerated black men. You have written about hypergamous black women. So why aren't they losing weight to improve their mating options? And why is this a problem in the U.S. generally, and D.C. in particular?

The failure to recognize the shortage is a result of overactive rationalization hamsters and general delusion. No women want to believe that they are not in fact special snowflakes who deserve and can have the world. If the average black woman openly acknowledged the reality regarding the supply of black men and acting accordingly, they'd have to behave like anything but special snowflakes. They'd have to (gasp!) work in order to be attractive for men.

Keep in mind that black American women, more than any other women in this society, are totally opposed to the idea of even appearing remotely subservient to men at any time-they MUST maintain the upper hand as best they can. The notion of the "gender war" is no true anywhere else than it is in the black community-they've easily got the most antagonistic gender relations.
Black women wear the notion of male obsolescence and dispensability on their sleeve ("I don't need no man!"), and preach it constantly. They are the last women who would take what men want into account and work to provide it (unless it involved a big payday).

Instead, they'll delude themselves and reason that their lack of male company is not due to their own habits (ex: looking like a pear, being obese), attitudes or anything like that. Rather, it is the fault of black men for being lazy deadbeats incapable of handling a strong black woman. Accepting this lie is less painful than actual self-improvement, so it finds a lot of traction.

This problem exists in non-black American communities as well, but it is in fact much more extreme among black american women than others. Other women are just catching up to the attitudes black american women hae held for the past 40 years.

Why is this a problem in the USA in particular? Bitches be crazy.

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#28

Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

Fat black women don't have a problem getting laid. There are plenty of black men more than willing to do the job. I have always grown up in West Indian communities and the Jamaican men love the gyal wid the big pum pum.
The problem for them is keeping a man and maintaining one.

Even the other day I was in the West end of Toronto on the bus and I heard this black lizard of West Indian decent (with different coloured hair and various face piercings) tell some other guy she was trying to put on weight. She was not skinny (but not fat by my standards either).

One of my female friends (she lives in Ottawa) told me that one of her friends (a 250 pound lizard) visited her for a few days and was propositioned by a numerous amount of Jamaicans and Nigerians.
With attention like that, why would a lizard want to lose weight?

I honestly think it's something in the genes. I don't know if it's the fact that I grew up in a Jamaican area but skinny women don't do it for me.
I tried a slim black lizard last year for a while. She weighed 133 pounds. I found it incredibly difficult to nut with her and even when I did, I didn't feel too content.
Now, one of my other FWB's who is in the late 200's (but carries it well -she got azz for days), I cum so hard in her, I feel like my heart will stop.

I think kosko has a point that in Western African countries - where the majority of the Caribbean blacks, Latin American blacks and North American blacks originate from, a person with weight symbolises wealth and status.

This is the core as to why brothers sweat fat lizards so much. White Americans are up there with fat but the white guys in America don't seem to go bonkers over them to the same degree as the blacks do over their own.

Athlone, you say black celebrities only DATE the slim looking lizards..yes. That's more of a public view type of thing. But you can be sure they will be lusting the Buffy the body types on the side.

I know where my drive comes from. I couldn't wait to come to North America for that excessive ass. I can't wait to move to the States where I can stroke an American lizard with azz and I will look up towards the skies and say a prayer of thanks.

Y'all can keep your skinny lizards. Send the voluptous ones my way.

On a side note, for marriage, I will take a slim lizard. The reason for this, is that women put on weight with age and pregnancy. What starts as voluptous only ends up being obese with age and pregnancy unless she exerts discipline.
And with the market value currently where it is at, why would a fat lizard living in North America bother to exercise discipline?

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#29

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Quote: (02-29-2012 04:49 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

...Keep in mind that black American women, more than any other women in this society, are totally opposed to the idea of even appearing remotely subservient to men at any time-they MUST maintain the upper hand as best they can....

I'm going qualify this statement a little. Many black women can be, and in truth want to be, subservient to their man. HOWEVER, this will ONLY happen if the man is making SIGNIFICANTLY more money than the woman.

Especially as they get into there mid to late twenties and beyond, black women (at least middle and upper class black women), more so than other ethnicities of women, value a man (an consequently the respect they give him) based on the money he makes. I don't mean to make them sound like golddiggers. It is just that, amongst the combination of traits that a man can have that make him appealing, money rules all.

I think this stems from a history of really good looking black guys with tight game who were broke banging black women, and being pretty much worthless when it comes time to provide for their family. As a result, many black women behave with the mentality that if the man can't provide for them, then he is worthless. It has taken a step further to the point where if the man only makes as much money as her, then she really doesn't need him, since she can buy her own shit. Heaven help the man who makes less than his wife.

The secret is that many black women, having seen the TV images of the happy (white) housewife, secretly CRAVE that lifestyle. If a dude is making a lot more cash than she could, and has the potential to provide her with a life that she could not afford on her own, she WILL be subservient/traditional. You may get the cursory shit test, but those are deflected pretty easily, and they get in line quickly. In fact, I have found that many REALLY REALLY get off on being submissive to their powerful man. It almost gets to the point of being hyper-feminine.

Even in the cases of infidelity that I have seen (which, honestly, seems a little more rare amongst black women), it is MUCH more likely that a black women would be cheating with a more wealthy/powerful man than a guy who is less wealthy/powerful but better looking.
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#30

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Quote: (02-29-2012 05:12 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Fat black women don't have a problem getting laid. There are plenty of black men more than willing to do the job.

There are also plenty of poor black men without great future prospects in sight.
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One of my female friends (she lives in Ottawa) told me that one of her friends (a 250 pound lizard) visited her for a few days and was propositioned by a numerous amount of Jamaicans and Nigerians.
With attention like that, why would a lizard want to lose weight?

True, their egos do inflate.

Of course, we'll see how they feel later when they hit their late 20's/30's and their only romantic prospects are broke dudes with few options.

Men with value do not mess around with these women very much. That is not a coincidence.

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I honestly think it's something in the genes.

Obesity is a condition linked directly with decreased life expectancy due to a number of the ailments it causes. These include hypertension, diabetes, liver disease, birth defects, miscarriage, stroke, migraine, dementia-I can go on and on. It is as deadly as smoking, if not more so.

There is no disputing this-reams of scientific data exist to back it up, and a firm consensus on the matter has been established among scientists. An overabundance of body fat is not healthy in ANY scenario.

And yet some people actually want to argue that black west africans are somehow genetically predisposed to PREFER this condition, one that leads to the decline in health and is the largest single cause of their decreased life expectancy in the USA.

You might as well just argue that blacks are inferior, then. From an evolutionary biology perspective, that is the only conclusion that can be drawn from such a "preference". Were such a preference to be real, then you could very well conclude that black genetics preclude their enjoyment of a long, high quality life by encouraging the seeking of a degenerative condition (obesity).

As things stand, however, I don't buy that claim everyone wants to throw out about black men loving fat women by nature as there is no scientific backing for it. The only consistent truth I have seen is that POOR men deal with fat women-no man of any race with options usually bothers with them.

Of course, blacks as a whole have been lacking in options lately. I doubt this is a coincidence.

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I think kosko has a point that in Western African countries - where the majority of the Caribbean blacks, Latin American blacks and North American blacks originate from, a person with weight symbolises wealth and status.

You're claiming a (questionable) broad cultural precedent that has no impact on genetics.

When someone discovers this "fat seeker" gene in black men, I'll buy it.

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This is the core as to why brothers sweat fat lizards so much. White Americans are up there with fat but the white guys in America don't seem to go bonkers over them to the same degree as the blacks do over their own.

Because they have romantic options that aren't twice the width of the average male, so they take them.

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Athlone, you say black celebrities only DATE the slim looking lizards..yes. That's more of a public view type of thing. But you can be sure they will be lusting the Buffy the body types on the side.

As someone who is acquainted with quite a number of pro athletes, I am saying that the vast majority of black men with options are dealing with fit women who, in most cases, are not much thicker than this and rarely look like this.

"Buffy the Body" types are rarely seen in these circles, because they are low hanging fruit. That is a hoodrat, and in most cases qualifies as nothing more than a groupie/temporary semen receptacle for these dudes on short road trips (if even that-they can get much hotter groupies, and will usually pick those if they are available).

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Y'all can keep your skinny lizards. Send the voluptous ones my way.

Bah, whatever then. Less competition for me.

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#31

Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

Quote: (02-29-2012 05:30 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

I'm going qualify this statement a little. Many black women can be, and in truth want to be, subservient to their man. HOWEVER, this will ONLY happen if the man is making SIGNIFICANTLY more money than the woman.

Especially as they get into there mid to late twenties and beyond, black women (at least middle and upper class black women), more so than other ethnicities of women, value a man (an consequently the respect they give him) based on the money he makes.

I can believe it.

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I don't mean to make them sound like golddiggers. It is just that, amongst the combination of traits that a man can have that make him appealing, money rules all.

I mean, if it looks like a duck, quakcs like a duck, waddles like a duck, and swims like a duck...perhaps we can conclude that it is, in fact, a duck?

You know we're all thinking it.

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I think this stems from a history of really good looking black guys with tight game who were broke banging black women, and being pretty much worthless when it comes time to provide for their family. As a result, many black women behave with the mentality that if the man can't provide for them, then he is worthless. It has taken a step further to the point where if the man only makes as much money as her, then she really doesn't need him, since she can buy her own shit. Heaven help the man who makes less than his wife.

I occasionally browse some of the largest groupie sites on the net (LipStickAlley and BallerAlert) for fun and to wise up for later in life. These places just so happen to each be about 90% black female by membership (shocking!).

Anyway, I often heard that justification used. They say that being a groupie, chasing rich men and just generally golddigging is ok because all men, regardless of what they make, are capable of being dogs. Thus, they figure that you might as well go for the man of means. If he dogs you out, you might at least get something out of it-the poorer dude can offer nothing.

That's fine if they want to see relationships that way. My view is this: if you view your relationship in such a transactional manner with money taking such a dominant position, then be prepared to be treated like a commodity yourself. Two can play at this game.

You want to treat me like some sort of inanimate insurance policy to buoy your lifestyle? I reserve the right to treat you like the depreciating asset you are, and trade you in at a later date if I see fit.
Fair is fair.

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The secret is that many black women, having seen the TV images of the happy (white) housewife, secretly CRAVE that lifestyle. If a dude is making a lot more cash than she could, and has the potential to provide her with a life that she could not afford on her own, she WILL be subservient/traditional. You may get the cursory shit test, but those are deflected pretty easily, and they get in line quickly. In fact, I have found that many REALLY REALLY get off on being submissive to their powerful man. It almost gets to the point of being hyper-feminine.

Huh. I'd not have guessed.

I guess I'll be finding out about this myself in due time.

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#32

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Quote: (02-29-2012 05:30 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

The secret is that many black women, having seen the TV images of the happy (white) housewife, secretly CRAVE that lifestyle. If a dude is making a lot more cash than she could, and has the potential to provide her with a life that she could not afford on her own, she WILL be subservient/traditional. You may get the cursory shit test, but those are deflected pretty easily, and they get in line quickly. In fact, I have found that many REALLY REALLY get off on being submissive to their powerful man. It almost gets to the point of being hyper-feminine.

I can agree with this. Although I tend to prefer well-established women, at the same time, the challenge is to get them young enough, with less headaches AND not submissive to the point of desperation.

You would not believe how some of the more marriage-minded women act when I mentioned something like graduate school or the GRE. While I don't have some "MTV Cribs" type of home, I have a house that is less than 6 years old (I had built). I have a decent-looking home office and my diplomas are hanging on the wall. Them chicks actually read them while looking at all of my technical books and you can damn-near visualize their dreams of that "Leave It To Beaver" lifestyle.

Then again, I mentioned in another thread how these same DC high-attitude black chicks are at these DC bars with rich guys (regardless of his race) acting so obedient while waiting for him to buy their drinks.
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#33

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Quote: (02-29-2012 05:30 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 04:49 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

...Keep in mind that black American women, more than any other women in this society, are totally opposed to the idea of even appearing remotely subservient to men at any time-they MUST maintain the upper hand as best they can....

I'm going qualify this statement a little. Many black women can be, and in truth want to be, subservient to their man. HOWEVER, this will ONLY happen if the man is making SIGNIFICANTLY more money than the woman.

Especially as they get into there mid to late twenties and beyond, black women (at least middle and upper class black women), more so than other ethnicities of women, value a man (an consequently the respect they give him) based on the money he makes. I don't mean to make them sound like golddiggers. It is just that, amongst the combination of traits that a man can have that make him appealing, money rules all.

I think this stems from a history of really good looking black guys with tight game who were broke banging black women, and being pretty much worthless when it comes time to provide for their family. As a result, many black women behave with the mentality that if the man can't provide for them, then he is worthless. It has taken a step further to the point where if the man only makes as much money as her, then she really doesn't need him, since she can buy her own shit. Heaven help the man who makes less than his wife.

The secret is that many black women, having seen the TV images of the happy (white) housewife, secretly CRAVE that lifestyle. If a dude is making a lot more cash than she could, and has the potential to provide her with a life that she could not afford on her own, she WILL be subservient/traditional. You may get the cursory shit test, but those are deflected pretty easily, and they get in line quickly. In fact, I have found that many REALLY REALLY get off on being submissive to their powerful man. It almost gets to the point of being hyper-feminine.

Even in the cases of infidelity that I have seen (which, honestly, seems a little more rare amongst black women), it is MUCH more likely that a black women would be cheating with a more wealthy/powerful man than a guy who is less wealthy/powerful but better looking.

F that man. I don't buy that at all. Generally, black women inherently abhor the idea of being subservient to a man. They are also usually vapid and less open-minded and easy going compared to other types of women. Forget money.

Even so, why would you settle for that when you could go straight international? I would never seriously consider bundling up with a black woman. Those days are over. American women in general are low on the totem pole.
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#34

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Quote: (02-29-2012 08:35 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

F that man. I don't buy that at all. Generally, black women inherently abhor the idea of being subservient to a man. They are also usually vapid and less open-minded and easy going compared to other types of women. Forget money.

Even so, why would you settle for that when you could go straight international? I would never seriously consider bundling up with a black woman. Those days are over. American women in general are low on the totem pole.

Generally?...YES, you are probably right, but like JoeHoya pointed out, there is small subset of those who are older that get desperate and will become subservient. The problem is that those same women try to rush the whole process (and marriage) which turns you off.
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#35

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Quote: (02-29-2012 08:59 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Generally?...YES, you are probably right, but like JoeHoya pointed out, there is small subset of those who are older that get desperate and will become subservient. The problem is that those same women try to rush the whole process (and marriage) which turns you off.

Additional problems: they're rare ("small subset") and they're old (past their prime). They're also American (able to easily divorce rape you).

Gotta go with HC on this one. As tempted as I am by the idea of a hyper-feminine black American woman (just typing that feels strange, almost as though I'm speaking of a "wet desert" or some other oxymoron), I doubt they are numerous or worthwhile enough to take the risk of seeking them out, especially with so many quality women available elsewhere.

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#36

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Quote: (02-28-2012 11:45 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (02-28-2012 11:04 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  

Behold the beauty that awaits you in D.C.

She’s one of the most full-figured women in the gym, but she’s in love with her body. ... Gibson, who says she’s over 150 pounds but under 200, has been plus-sized most of her life. And it took time to come to terms with that.

If she came to terms with it, then why the hell can't she state her weight?!

Black women heavier and happier with their bodies

Man. I had meant to post that today but I forgot. Saw that story this morning as well. What does the forum have to say about this?

Typical self-delusional techniques. These women do nothing but disgust me, while most women think it's "enviable." Society in America is going to shit all around us.

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#37

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Quote: (02-29-2012 09:04 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Additional problems: they're rare ("small subset") and they're old (past their prime). They're also American (able to easily divorce rape you).

Which brings me to another question (different topic). Which countries have close to "fair" divorce laws? I would think if that list was out, it would be valuable.
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#38

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Quote: (02-29-2012 08:24 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

You would not believe how some of the more marriage-minded women act when I mentioned something like graduate school or the GRE. While I don't have some "MTV Cribs" type of home, I have a house that is less than 6 years old (I had built). I have a decent-looking home office and my diplomas are hanging on the wall. Them chicks actually read them while looking at all of my technical books and you can damn-near visualize their dreams of that "Leave It To Beaver" lifestyle.

I absolutely believe it, because I have seen the same thing. I would watch chicks roll into my uncle's pad and could just see them doing an onsite mental appraisal of his house and then estimating his annual income. [Image: dodgy.gif]
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#39

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Quote: (02-29-2012 08:35 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

F that man. I don't buy that at all. Generally, black women inherently abhor the idea of being subservient to a man. They are also usually vapid and less open-minded and easy going compared to other types of women. Forget money.

I didn't buy it either, until I saw it with my own eyes, and later experienced it myself.

Quote: (02-29-2012 08:35 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Even so, why would you settle for that when you could go straight international? I would never seriously consider bundling up with a black woman. Those days are over. American women in general are low on the totem pole.

I love the international pussy. However, there are times that I am in the US for several months at a time. Like now. Because of some other commitments, I won't be able to do my extended international trip until May. I am certainly not going to just stay home and jerk off.

When I am in the US, gaming fine black women is easier than gaming any other ethnicity of the same level of beauty. I am not trying to get into a relationship or get married. I am just looking for some warm pussy to fuck, and occasionally some good conversation. Once I learned to NEVER show any beta behavior, don't provide too many compliments, and check any bitchiness the moment it occurs, it has worked out.
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#40

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Quote: (02-29-2012 10:19 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 08:35 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

F that man. I don't buy that at all. Generally, black women inherently abhor the idea of being subservient to a man. They are also usually vapid and less open-minded and easy going compared to other types of women. Forget money.

I didn't buy it either, until I saw it with my own eyes, and later experienced it myself.

Quote: (02-29-2012 08:35 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Even so, why would you settle for that when you could go straight international? I would never seriously consider bundling up with a black woman. Those days are over. American women in general are low on the totem pole.

I love the international pussy. However, there are times that I am in the US for several months at a time. Like now. Because of some other commitments, I won't be able to do my extended international trip until May. I am certainly not going to just stay home and jerk off.

When I am in the US, gaming fine black women is easier than gaming any other ethnicity of the same level of beauty. I am not trying to get into a relationship or get married. I am just looking for some warm pussy to fuck, and occasionally some good conversation. Once I learned to NEVER show any beta behavior, don't provide too many compliments, and check any bitchiness the moment it occurs, it has worked out.

Are you based in DC when you're in the US?
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#41

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Quote: (02-29-2012 09:04 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 08:59 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Generally?...YES, you are probably right, but like JoeHoya pointed out, there is small subset of those who are older that get desperate and will become subservient. The problem is that those same women try to rush the whole process (and marriage) which turns you off.

Additional problems: they're rare ("small subset") and they're old (past their prime). They're also American (able to easily divorce rape you).

Gotta go with HC on this one. As tempted as I am by the idea of a hyper-feminine black American woman (just typing that feels strange, almost as though I'm speaking of a "wet desert" or some other oxymoron), I doubt they are numerous or worthwhile enough to take the risk of seeking them out, especially with so many quality women available elsewhere.

You know what though. When I think about it, the coolest black women I've met in the US (not through attraction) are those who are educated, overweight and generally unattractive. Cool personalities, but unfortunately the looks just aren't there. You want to talk about rare. Find one who has the looks and that personality to match. Extremely rare.
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#42

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Quote: (02-29-2012 11:15 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Are you based in DC when you're in the US?

No, mostly I am based in Chicago, although I used to live in DC.
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#43

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Quote: (02-29-2012 11:31 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 11:15 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Are you based in DC when you're in the US?

No, mostly I am based in Chicago, although I used to live in DC.

I've met black women from Chi-town. They are actually much cooler than the ones you find in DC.
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#44

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Quote: (02-29-2012 04:44 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 03:08 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

She carries very little body fat, so I have little problem with her.

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She's getting her "thickness" from muscle mass rather than strategically placed flab. She's just a muscular girl-I can live with that. Still a little bigger than I personally prefer, but not in a bad way like some of the other women I've talked about in this thread.

I used to like those thick Brazilian bodies but I'm not feeling that anymore. Watermelon Woman's legs are WAY too big. I think it's nasty. It's like looking at horse legs or something.


Mulher Melancia is ugly. I would hit it eventually , but thats not the kind of women that you see often in Brazil (at least in SP) unless you go to nasty funk parties . I rather go for the thinner look. Can't believe you posted a pic of Preta GIL either , she's a pig and one of the favorite targets of Brazilian stand-up comedians.There is hope.

I agree with you guys , as long as there are men settling for those fat hogs, some women will think that "fat is beautiful"

Chicks need to be on rotation like a Netflix queue
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#45

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Quote: (02-29-2012 08:35 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 05:30 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 04:49 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

...Keep in mind that black American women, more than any other women in this society, are totally opposed to the idea of even appearing remotely subservient to men at any time-they MUST maintain the upper hand as best they can....

I'm going qualify this statement a little. Many black women can be, and in truth want to be, subservient to their man. HOWEVER, this will ONLY happen if the man is making SIGNIFICANTLY more money than the woman.

Especially as they get into there mid to late twenties and beyond, black women (at least middle and upper class black women), more so than other ethnicities of women, value a man (an consequently the respect they give him) based on the money he makes. I don't mean to make them sound like golddiggers. It is just that, amongst the combination of traits that a man can have that make him appealing, money rules all.

I think this stems from a history of really good looking black guys with tight game who were broke banging black women, and being pretty much worthless when it comes time to provide for their family. As a result, many black women behave with the mentality that if the man can't provide for them, then he is worthless. It has taken a step further to the point where if the man only makes as much money as her, then she really doesn't need him, since she can buy her own shit. Heaven help the man who makes less than his wife.

The secret is that many black women, having seen the TV images of the happy (white) housewife, secretly CRAVE that lifestyle. If a dude is making a lot more cash than she could, and has the potential to provide her with a life that she could not afford on her own, she WILL be subservient/traditional. You may get the cursory shit test, but those are deflected pretty easily, and they get in line quickly. In fact, I have found that many REALLY REALLY get off on being submissive to their powerful man. It almost gets to the point of being hyper-feminine.

Even in the cases of infidelity that I have seen (which, honestly, seems a little more rare amongst black women), it is MUCH more likely that a black women would be cheating with a more wealthy/powerful man than a guy who is less wealthy/powerful but better looking.

F that man. I don't buy that at all. Generally, black women inherently abhor the idea of being subservient to a man. They are also usually vapid and less open-minded and easy going compared to other types of women. Forget money.

Even so, why would you settle for that when you could go straight international? I would never seriously consider bundling up with a black woman. Those days are over. American women in general are low on the totem pole.

Word !!
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Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

Quote: (02-29-2012 04:49 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (02-29-2012 04:26 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  

hypergamous black women ... why is this a problem in the U.S. generally, and D.C. in particular?
general delusion ... exists in non-black American communities as well, but it is in fact much more extreme among black american women than others.

Does this explain it? Hypergamous women compete for the upper 20% of men. Black men are, on average, poorer than whites. So perhaps only 10% of them qualify as upper 20% based on some combination of money, career, status, and looks. Many black women have no realistic shot at these top decile black men, so they just give up. Then they consign themselves to getting conveniently pumped by whoever is available when they are horny. They have no three date rule, no dinners, no flowers, just an endless series of quick hookups.
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Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

The moral of the story...go find yourself an Afro-Brazilian sista like Isabel Correa

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Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

The link is hilarious. I'm surprised the gym even allows her to be an instructor; if I was touring a gym and I saw a fat aerobics instructor, I'd be out of there quicker than an F1 car. I imagine women would too; they all know deep down that fat is unattractive. Even if they are fat themselves, they wish they weren't.

That and the aerobics she teaches must be fucking useless. It is really hard to do aerobic exercise and not lose weight- that being the point of it and all.
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Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

Quote: (03-01-2012 05:01 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

The moral of the story...go find yourself an Afro-Brazilian sista like Isabel Correa

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Yeah. I wanted to bring that up. What do guys here think about Caribbean black women and black women from Latin America and Africa vs. those who grew up in the US to American parents? I've noticed a huge difference in values, mentality, attitude and expectations between American black women and black women from elsewhere.
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Fat (Black) D.C. Aerobics Instructor

any woman who has passed her formative years in the US is no go zone. strictly pump and dump if that. OK I edit that 90% are no go.

it doesn't matter - Caribbean, US, Africa......the U.S. ruins women. the indoctrination is too strong and the female mind too weak.
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