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03-03-2012, 06:11 PM
Quote: (03-03-2012 05:53 PM)durangotang Wrote:
Quote: (03-03-2012 05:02 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
Quote: (03-03-2012 06:21 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
One of my pick up lines in Ukraine is ''lubis podarki?''(do you like presents).It almost always works.Girls answer:Ja oitsien lubliu podarki(I like presents very much).From there on development is in your hand.
You cannot use this line in Poland however.
i'm itching to say something about this but i want to keep the peace on this forum, anyone ?
cough P4P ! cough !
In Ukraine, apparently that works and I appreciate the excellent cultural tip and translation from kamaki. That's real data. Agree or disagree, if it works, it works. Use it or not, if it's not your style of game, but I bet that opener hooks like mad.
I used to think in a more black and white manner before reading Roosh, G, Danger and Play, and books like The Game, Bang, Mode One, etc. You pay for things = paying for sex. I just can't say I see that as anywhere near remotely true anymore. There is no black and white - just one big spectrum of grey.
In the west, particularly the anglo countries (U.K., U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand) feminism has perverted women's feminine nature 180 degrees. Women have been de-feminized, even if they remain anatomically attractive, and culturally programmed to believe they are equal to or superior to men. It is possible to game them without paying, but you generally get a masculine natured female. Is that alpha? Who wants that?
What is the feminist slogan; empowerment for women. Why? Because women lack power in the world. It is their nature to submit to a dominant man - just consider the act of sex itself. They do also need provision and protection, especially while pregnant or raising children.
In other parts of the world, un-perversed western feminism, the man is expected to provide. I view this not only as natural evolution, but natural game as well. To do it though, you have to be a man. If you lack a bankroll, build it. It's more about inner game as a man. Like G says "the world is your oyster." If you look at the higher level players on this forum, most apply this philosophy in the west as well. If you ask a girl out, pay for the meal. Why, if that's not necessary? It's because you choose being a man, over just a PUA. Is that beta?
Take a look at Kamaki's line "do you like presents?" The equivalent line to a man would be something like "do you like warm pussy?" That line would stop me in my tracks. It's a little unsophisticated, but it cuts right to the chase. How do you make that a little more sophisticated? Let's see. Approach with swagger, custom suited down and ask "do you like sushi?" You have communicated the same thing as "do you like presents," just in a more sophisticated and rewarding way. Of course she is in shape, wearing a tight skirt, heels, make up, and is feminine. She is really saying "do you like warm pussy" it just goes unspoken.
As a general rule for pleasure, the more that goes unspoken, the more sophisticated and rewarding the game.
I don't know, who approaches a girl with a line like : do you like presents? You might as well just walk to a prostitute and say : i have money, lets fuck ! You're giving the girl exactly the same vibe.
Its shows that you are willing to take your wallet and money and pay something expensive for her without knowing her or speaking to her beforehand.
Nothing to do with being cheap or the buying a girl a drink discussion. Its just straight up offering something valuable to a girl.
Most girls would feel like a ho when some one asks this and the one who says yes to it probably is. If a girl likes a present whn offered by a strange guy she is basically saying : yes my pussy is for sale
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03-03-2012, 09:45 PM
if anyone visits Ukraine and would like to use the line about presents, please understand that you may run into a girl who speaks little or no English, and if this is the case, in order for her to understand what you're saying the Russian has to be understandable; not perfect, but understandable, word endings in the Russian language are extremely important, in this case you can say something like this, 'ttteee lubish podarki' or 'vvee lubete podarki', the first case you're saying 'you love presents', this 'you' signifys that you are somewhat familar with the girl, love is the verb, and presents is of course mentioned in plural which the i at the end indicates, the second case you would use 'vvee' if you're not familar with the girl, if you use 'vvee' then the verb love must change to lubete, presents remains the same in the plural form, ttee and vvee both mean you, but you would use these words in different circumstances.
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03-04-2012, 04:26 AM
I can tell you now, I will never buy a gift for a woman in Ukraine in exchange for her pussy. My successes have mostly been in the west of the country, bar a few bangs in Kiev, different story here.
Will be travelling east and south soon, and I don't intend to change my habits, I will just find the girls who are not prostitutes.
Realise it's a different story for some people though
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03-04-2012, 04:38 AM
Quote: (03-04-2012 12:50 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:
Quote: (03-02-2012 07:36 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:
Yes oldnemesis, agree with you on how blurrerd the difference is in SE Asia. That is why I would stick to 2nd tier cities in SE Asia, where there are relatively few pros or semi pros and just buying a girl a hot dog and being a foreigner is enough to display high value. In Manila, I could probably bang a different girl every night, but some would be semi pros. Here in Davao, Im happier banging a different girl once every 2 nights knowing she is relatively fresh and inexperienced.
It is the same there. I haven't actually been to Manila outside the airport area, just Cebu, Davao and few other cities. Still, for a lot of those girls just spending a night in the aircon room and taking a hot jacuzzi has much more value than we'd even think. I really wondered whether I'd get as much attention as I did if I lived the way most locals do.
Yeah, the hotel room value you get is underrated. i talked about old man "game" here :
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-10771-...#pid169281
Being a poor bastard it actually makes me feel better when i get a girl back to my simple cold shower room. I know she's there for me. But to be honest i would take a better room if i had the money for it. Probably the next time i travel i'll have more money than time and might travel a bit more luxurious.
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@OldNemesis, forget getting a straight answer about the P4P. If answered, its gonna be just as "zigzag" as the advice.
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03-04-2012, 06:50 AM
Sadly, the geniuses of the ages come down on the side of no one is loved purely for themselves alone-- although that can happen for moments, the most beautiful moments in life.
Neil, you are loved maybe not for your hotel room, but certainly partly for your height, you didn't earn it and (hopefully!) you won't change it significantly.
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By William Butler Yeats
‘Never shall a young man,
Thrown into despair
By those great honey-coloured
Ramparts at your ear,
Love you for yourself alone
And not your yellow hair.’
‘But I can get a hair-dye
And set such colour there,
Brown, or black, or carrot,
That young men in despair
May love me for myself alone
And not my yellow hair.’
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03-04-2012, 07:28 AM
All that rooshv says is how much he likes slavic girls(polish,Russian,Ukrainian) who are feminine,submissive etc and how much he dislikes Germanic girls(Danish,Latvian etc) who are masculine,bossy etc.
It is difficult to meet the opposite attitude although there are quite a few Germanic women lovers.
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03-04-2012, 08:04 AM
Anyone on this forum travel to Ukraine and have success as a normal dude?
Deb Auch -model looks + really tall
Greek Kamaki-- willing to spend lots of $$$
You guys have stuff to contribute, but I think some of it might not be relevant to others who don't have these advantages.
What about guys like Ami? and others?
How are you guys doing and what tips do you have for success?
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03-04-2012, 08:39 AM
I refuse to buy furs that is why I did not choose Russia as a hunting ground.On the other hand to get an one day bang or a threesome when buying a mobile phone worth 200 euro is sth to think about it.(for example a dinner for two costs 50 euro,a club with drinking for two costs 100 euro and you do not have guaranteed bang).
Again if you are on budget visit province and if you are on extreme budget stay in girlfriend's house.Kiev is not a place to go if you are on budget.
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03-04-2012, 09:03 AM
There is way too much talk about gifting. Yes, it may be culturally acceptable and normal, or worth it in rare situations to bang twin models in the Ukraine, but we shouldn't sit here and discuss it openly like it's any part of game. It's not good for the forum. These whores are already cunning and self-obsessed; buying them skirts and cell phones to fuck only makes it harder for the next guy. One guy on a speed pussy mission at the cost of inflating egos that are already sky high, does a disservice to all that follow. Not much better is the guy that doesn't know how to properly let a decent girl down after he bangs and she wants to hang out. Seriously, there really should be a thread on sustainable pussy. It's possible to fuck these girls without giving a gift over 10 Euros, by showing high value, class, style, intelligence, and leading the interaction. Talk to them and if they seem worth a shit, buy a drink or even dinner. Bring them a rose or chocolates but fuck all this non-sense gift giving. Wanna talk about "STOP CREATING MONSTERS", there you go. And when you're done with the girl, give her a decent excuse for why you don't give a shit to see her again. Put 2 minutes into it and do us all a favor. Tell her you're still in love with someone, you are scarred from a past relationship, or any other bs that keep her from labeling us all as ruthless pussy hounds, even if it's the truth. Do it for your grandchildren, illegitimate or not, that may want to bang girls in FSU one day without carrying fur coats in their pockets.
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03-04-2012, 09:41 AM
Quote: (03-04-2012 09:03 AM)IVth_Element Wrote:
There is way too much talk about gifting. Yes, it may be culturally acceptable and normal, or worth it in rare situations to bang twin models in the Ukraine, but we shouldn't sit here and discuss it openly like it's any part of game. It's not good for the forum. These whores are already cunning and self-obsessed; buying them skirts and cell phones to fuck only makes it harder for the next guy. One guy on a speed pussy mission at the cost of inflating egos that are already sky high, does a disservice to all that follow. Not much better is the guy that doesn't know how to properly let a decent girl down after he bangs and she wants to hang out. Seriously, there really should be a thread on sustainable pussy. It's possible to fuck these girls without giving a gift over 10 Euros, by showing high value, class, style, intelligence, and leading the interaction. Talk to them and if they seem worth a shit, buy a drink or even dinner. Bring them a rose or chocolates but fuck all this non-sense gift giving. Wanna talk about "STOP CREATING MONSTERS", there you go. And when you're done with the girl, give her a decent excuse for why you don't give a shit to see her again. Put 2 minutes into it and do us all a favor. Tell her you're still in love with someone, you are scarred from a past relationship, or any other bs that keep her from labeling us all as ruthless pussy hounds, even if it's the truth. Do it for your grandchildren, illegitimate or not, that may want to bang girls in FSU one day without carrying fur coats in their pockets.
Well said, IVth element +1
This has nothing to do with buying a girl a drink or not.
Its time we stop talking about BUYING a girl's affection with presents. For me its only game when the girls wants to be with me because of ME not because i promised to buy her gifts. Promising and giving gifts/phones/clothes is NOT game and doesn't belong on a forum for traveling players. It belongs at a pay for pussy (P4P) forum.
Any Dirty Old Man can do it, he might pay more than a young dude but its still the same.
Some one here refuses to let us know his age. I guess he falls in the catagory DOM too. Don't bother telling us your age now, because its probably a lie anyway.
End of discussion, gonna watch the footie now
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03-04-2012, 09:50 AM
Quote: (03-04-2012 09:25 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Look at this film to get an idea about polish girls reality.In Ukraine is much more extreme.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11wH8RV-58w
Good video, luckily everyone here understands Polish
Watch this video , it says sexy Polish girl dancing.
http://youtu.be/NtBZveE8eoE
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03-04-2012, 09:53 AM
I am 37 years old.Do you call Mixx an old man?And let's say if sb pays for a mansion 200$ per day to impress girls why is it not legit to buy a 200$ mobile phone to fuck girls?Why spend the money on mansion and not straight in order to fuck?I do not get the difference.I also do not get the difference between spending on an expensive dinner,taxi,cafe etc to achieve a kiss when you can get a bang more quickly.
In every case you will have to calibrate.Girls do not wear a logo telling you can fuck me if you pay my dinner,you can fuck me if you pay my rent or you can fuck me if you buy me a mobile phone.They also do not have a logo telling you can fuck me if you have a foreigner dick.(although the thrill of western dick is still alive).So you have to find out what each girl wants again they are not the same.
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03-04-2012, 10:07 AM
37 is not old, i'm 35 myself. Anyway i'm out of this discussion. I let others decide whats wrong or right here. We both gave our opinions. Although i think you are very wrong i admire that you are defending for what you are believing is true in an decent way. Although your word joke Neil skywater is a bit lame. I heard Neil skywanker and Neil streetwalker before, those are more funny.
I would say : Creep Souvlaki, good luck and goodbye.
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03-04-2012, 10:32 AM
Quote: (03-04-2012 10:07 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
37 is not old, i'm 35 myself. Anyway i'm out of this discussion. I let others decide whats wrong or right here. We both gave our opinions. Although i think you are very wrong i admire that you are defending for what you are believing is true in an decent way. Although your word joke Neil skywater is a bit lame. I heard Neil skywanker and Neil streetwalker before, those are more funny.
I would say : Creep Souvlaki, good luck and goodbye.
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I'm 35. We're old now.
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03-04-2012, 10:42 AM
I'm in the 35 club too. Although I get told quite often I can pass for ten years younger.Which is probably why I can still snag the teens.
Though I think even when i'm 50 I will still manage to pull girls 20-21 years old in this part of the world.
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03-04-2012, 10:51 AM
Shit, I'm almost 35 too. Poland is my future home. As long as I can pull from the mid-20's, I'm happy.