[Riker]

Hi guys,

I met these girls a week ago on my birthday. It was me and 4 buddies at a bar and there were 4 girls. I dropped in and talked for a bit and then invited them over for beers at the table with my friends. So they came over to our table and we talked alot and eventually they all had to leave. I talked to the girl that sat next to me (6.5) the most and got her name which I then used to facebook her. The thing is my target is this other girl that was in the group, like a 8.5, that would try and talk to me a bit but we were positioned in a way that I couldn't talk to her one on one.

Anyways after I facebook the 6.5 I facebook the other girls in the group including my target. I get their email addresses from their profiles and add them to my messenger. The point is that I don't know how to spit good online game, not sure how to get this girl out for a drink with me. Should I say "hi whatsup?" and then ask her to meet me at a bar on a certain day. Or should I ask for her number and tell her ill be calling her to meet up someplace. Or should I talk and flirt online for a while before doing anything. Sucks investing so much energy for nothing though.

My other idea is having a party at my apartment with my guy friends and these girls plus some others and then try there to build something.

Thing about these girls is that they're Argentinian which means you got to think of them as projects. Its amazing, I'v asked the hottest girls with boyfriends how long they went out before kissing and most of them say 3 or 4 weeks. And these girls are on the young side, 17 and 18. Not that I want a girlfriend but I think its pretty hard to get quality here without getting deeply invested.

[Kona]

Brah,

Get the phone number and handle it over the phone.

Now if you insist on using the internet I have a theory:

Find someone who is really good at video games. Let them do your facebooking. I bet that people who are really good at say Mario Brothers would be really good at picking up girls online.

Aloha!

[Trotter]

So you looked these girls up over the Internet and none of them gave you their information? Let's call that borderline creepy if not full on creepy unless the girls specifically said "Just use my name and find me on facebook". You may want to clarify that.

Secondly, you didn't do the proper thing and ask for their numbers or emails when you were face-to-face. These girls probably get stopped every weekend by a group of horny guys what makes you anymore special than them? I bet they have 200 friends in their friends list and 90% of them are guys. Probably random guys like you that stalked their information out of the Internet.

I'm willing to bet at this point there's nothing you can do if they've already formed an opinion about ya. You can try but I think you need to work on your game here and make it less creepy.

[Riker]

I got 6.5 number over facebook and we exchanged a few texts. It wasn't creepy I just didn't feel like taking out my phone and getting the number. Especially since I wanted to go for the other girl. I guess I should have gotten all of their numbers when they left and that would have solved it.

So messenger the target girl and get her number. Then ask her to meet me for drinks somewhere. And thats that.

[doriangray]

(09-14-2009 04:41 PM)Trotter Wrote:  

So you looked these girls up over the Internet and none of them gave you their information? Let's call that borderline creepy if not full on creepy unless the girls specifically said "Just use my name and find me on facebook". You may want to clarify that.

Secondly, you didn't do the proper thing and ask for their numbers or emails when you were face-to-face. These girls probably get stopped every weekend by a group of horny guys what makes you anymore special than them? I bet they have 200 friends in their friends list and 90% of them are guys. Probably random guys like you that stalked their information out of the Internet.

I'm willing to bet at this point there's nothing you can do if they've already formed an opinion about ya. You can try but I think you need to work on your game here and make it less creepy.

The difference being creepy and being just curious is exactly the impression that the girl has of you. If you gave a good image of yourself when you met face2face, the girl will probably be happy when you contact her online. I did this once; I met a nice girl at this party but I had to leave with my (ex-)gf pretty soon. Immediately after leaving I started thinking why I didnt take that new girl's number (ex being there was part of the reason) so I just found her online on facebook and since she happened to like me, exchanging messages online was not creepy at all. It was easy to start a conversation about that party we had just been and continue from that..

[Trotter]

(09-14-2009 10:15 PM)Riker Wrote:  

I got 6.5 number over facebook and we exchanged a few texts. It wasn't creepy I just didn't feel like taking out my phone and getting the number. Especially since I wanted to go for the other girl. I guess I should have gotten all of their numbers when they left and that would have solved it.

So messenger the target girl and get her number. Then ask her to meet me for drinks somewhere. And thats that.

I disagree.

My overall feeling is that you should have isolated then number closed on the spot. You can take her reaction at face value and you're not left wondering about things afterwards.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I feel that most women would be put off by a guy that tracked them down over the Internet without explicity giving permission to do so. Yeah, yeah, there's that chance that it could be like that one time in the movies where you didn't make a move and the girl really wished you had and is pleasantly surprised to see you tracked her down over the Internet. But there's a reason why we only see stories like that in the movies.

[College Game]

My feeling and policy with the facebook is to never ask someone for it, and never, ever, go looking for someone on it. Even girls I am sleeping with I havent added on facebook, I will wait for them to request

There is no such thing as facebook game. It is really a reflection of the superficiality of your social life and socially constructed self, something that would take a while to consciously manufacture. A girl will go through it and it will only add to the perception and judgement that she has already made of you. The only way to 'game' on it, is to organize a party, post it on there, and how many people agree to show up, make comments about how awesome your parties are, will do you any good.

[College Game]

Never ask anyone for theirs either. Asking someone reminds me of the creepy older guy in superbad who his the fat kid in his car, when he asks them "hey, d'you guys have facebook?"

[Riker]

(09-16-2009 11:27 PM)College Game Wrote:  

Never ask anyone for theirs either. Asking someone reminds me of the creepy older guy in superbad who his the fat kid in his car, when he asks them "hey, d'you guys have facebook?"

I remember that part! Never realized how creepy it was. My thinking was that it showed I didnt even care that much to get the girls number and so I'd get the facebook and it would show less interest. But thinking it better its just better to get the number, make the call, and "make the bitch say no" as that other guy said.

[CJ]

(09-16-2009 11:26 PM)College Game Wrote:  

My feeling and policy with the facebook is to never ask someone for it, and never, ever, go looking for someone on it. Even girls I am sleeping with I havent added on facebook, I will wait for them to request

I agree with this. Same with asking for it, if they ask you, fine, otherwise what good does it do? Facebook should be a last resort, set up the second meeting in person and get the number there. "I didn't feel like it" is a poor excuse. Would you ever have a girl in your bed and not bang her because you "didn't feel like it"? Of course not.

Also, be careful with this 6.5, unless you want to bang her, she may get feelings for you and the 8.5 will back off.

[choichoi]

I figure it'd be better to revive a thread on an important theme: facebook game; if that's even a valid concept. So here's the story. I graduated from college last year and I have since made 4 trips back to the town where I went to school. When I was there, I wasn't pulling much poon but this last time which was a couple of weekends ago I managed to pull a chick on the swim team, (couldn't believe it). This chick's body was bad, plus she was about 6 ft, had a phatty fuh real and was rockin the jordan's with sum coochee cutter spandex shorts!
So I eye her up from afar in the club then unhesistantly grab her fine ass by the waist as she passes by playing follow-the-leader with her gfs. We exchange a few words then she goes on her way. A little time passes and i find her by the bar so i spit some game, we get to dancing then within a few minutes I'm tonguing her down. More dancing, making out, and grouping ensues and I'm fighting off grabby African dudes cuz that pussy was comin home with me, ya dig?
Catch the taxi back to her dorm, make out, etc. I'm eatin the coochee til she comes, she's blowin me (lights were on: score!) but she won't take the shirt off. She finally breaks it too me that she's got a bf, while she's between suckin my dick (is dis bitch fuh real?!) I try to shift her focus by playing with the goodies but by now she feel's guilty and all that bull.
She apologizes and we stop, but she begs me for my phone number. I tell her no because I feel it's a waste and figure it's the liqour talking. She begs, but I resist and we go to sleep with no further action.
The next day, when I'm leaving, she's asks me again for the number and by then I'm like she can't still be drunk right? So I'm like "yea sure, whatevs, not like you're gonna use it". I bounce.

5 days go by, no phone call but then this mf adds me on FB. I wait a good 24hs before confirming her, damn this hoe is persistant but dodgier than a mf. I shoot her a smart alec msg and she lols and some other ish for loling's sake.

Tonight I took some initiative and started some FB chat with her. Our convo flows from finals to summer plans to "can I get the digits [so we can get to gether again and I can hit it]?" type shit. She tells me that some random friend broke her shit so our only present means of contact is FB (I hate using that shit for honies). She tells me that she's going back home by the 2nd week of May but expressed apparent enthusiasm when I said "we should get up again before [she] leave"

This is where shit gets hard to navigate. I want an opportunity to get that pussy again; she seems enthusiatic about getting together again, though whether this is for sex or not, is still debatable. She stays only an hour's drive from me (I live in Atlanta more shit to do than in the college town, etc).

Am I wasting my time with this bombass italian mami given that she's got a bf, can presently only contact me via FB, lives in another town, and will be leaving for FL (I'd make trip to FL for dat punani)by the 2nd week of May? Chances seem slim but it was my sheer persistence that got me into her panties the first place (lotsa cockblockin Africans in the club) . Any thoughts or insight?

[AlphaQup2nite]

I dont know, i have awesome results with online game. Specifically QQ and QQzone, which is like chinese msn and facebook in one. I dont have a single picture, and through it i hook up with girls all over china.

[Rocco81]

Alpha, I agree...I can kick some game online as well. I prefer to do it in person, but sometimes with downtime at work going online is my only option. Its a good chance to share some basic stuff about yourself, flirt a little etc.

BTW Alpha how receptive are the Chinese girls to hooking up? I have this strong stereotype in my mind that most Chinese girls are very shy and traditional in most circumstances and I cannot help but feel they would be very troublesome to sleep with. I know Southern Asians (Filipinas, Laotians, Thai) are more open to sex and things but how about the Chinese?

[lilactag]

I more or less disagree with College Game's view on facebook an donline game.
I think it exists but is complementary to IRL game, not a substitute.
The OP made a few crucial mistakes, IMO:
If he met them IRL first and didn't strike much with the intended target and then fb her, it looks lame and probably they won't reply.

The way I se it, his only chance would be to organize the party and invite the 6.5, implying she can bring more friends if she wants. Then if the intended target arrives, game her, otherwise move on.

There is a fine line between looking lame and creepy or gaming a girl online. I think the best results are with messaging during a day, setting up a date and then is real life game.
If you have an attractive profile and pics and activity on your wall and want to hit on strangers, be my guest, but the rate of sucess is much lower than IRL, at the same time the wasted time is not much, so i think is worth it. But the tactic must be to run indirect game, meaning try to hook a new FB friend thru her friend's wall, which you happen to be friends already with.

Out of the blue works seldomly, they will just block you for good.

[solo]

I have a question regarding facebook maybe someone would be kind enough to help me out with. This girl added me a couple of years back and last her birthday's coming up (I wrote and congratulated her last year when I hadn't started reading this forum our Roosh's blog). Should I write happy birthday this year as well?

My hunch is that the alpha thing would be not to congratulate her, but thing is we live in different countries and I don't really talk to her that much at all so congratulating her might be a way to strike up a conversation. On the other hand, maybe not congratulating her would be DHV and she would start wonder why I didn't write to her, if so obviously playing to my advantage.
What do you reckon?

[thecrazyfool]

Not that I should be giving anyone here advice, but I saw this and had to comment. I just got through a little adventure in which a girl liked me and I screwed it up by spending too much of my contact with her through facebook instead of face-to-face. If you're a charming person - hell, even if you're not, be careful with the indirect communication. I learned this the hard way.

[Gmac]

(09-16-2009 11:26 PM)College Game Wrote:  

My feeling and policy with the facebook is to never ask someone for it, and never, ever, go looking for someone on it. Even girls I am sleeping with I havent added on facebook, I will wait for them to request

There is no such thing as facebook game. It is really a reflection of the superficiality of your social life and socially constructed self, something that would take a while to consciously manufacture. A girl will go through it and it will only add to the perception and judgement that she has already made of you. The only way to 'game' on it, is to organize a party, post it on there, and how many people agree to show up, make comments about how awesome your parties are, will do you any good.

I agree 100%. You only give women reasons NOT to sleep with you when you add them on FB. The mystery is gone unless you have basically an empty facebook with a few pictures. Sadly, plenty of younger girls (18-22) can still be duped if they perceive you as celeb/all-star within your social circle.

[Gringo]

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My hunch is that the alpha thing would be not to congratulate her, but thing is we live in different countries and I don't really talk to her that much at all so congratulating her might be a way to strike up a conversation. On the other hand, maybe not congratulating her would be DHV and she would start wonder why I didn't write to her, if so obviously playing to my advantage.
What do you reckon?

If you don't talk to her that often I doubt she'll even notice if you don't wish her happy birthday.

[solo]

Ok thanks for the advice guys, I'll just see what I'll do.