[Smitty]

Better be careful, gents:
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012...on-the-way


And some facts about Gonorrhea:
http://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/stdfact-gonorrhea.htm

[MikeCF]

More government fear mongering.

Just like HIV.

Just like herpes.

When you actually examine data, STDs are largely something that affect gays and blacks. (If there weren't so many "down low brothers," STD risk wouldn't even impact black women.)

I'm not remotely worried.

[JayMillz]

I think there is already a thread on this topic

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-10349.html

[Smitty]

(02-13-2012 09:18 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

I think there is already a thread on this topic

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-10349.html

Whoooops, my bad. No need to continue this thread.

[Screwston]

So should we be worried about this?? I feel like I'm the only one getting scared.

[gringochileno]

(02-13-2012 09:01 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

More government fear mongering.

Just like HIV.

Just like herpes.

When you actually examine data, STDs are largely something that affect gays and blacks. (If there weren't so many "down low brothers," STD risk wouldn't even impact black women.)

I'm not remotely worried.

Yes and no. Whites have a lower incidence than other racial groups but it's by no means negligible. The prevalence for this group is probably around 35 per 100,000 population, but keep in mind that having multiple recent sexual partners is a risk factor too (the relative risks that I've seen quoted in the literature have been around 3). So if you tested 1000 players at one time, maybe 1 of them would have gonorrhea, but remember that these are prevalences, not incidences, so the longer you stay in the game the higher your odds are of eventually contracting something.

Anyway, even if the risk is very low, you do NOT want to contract a resistant strain of gonorrhea. Thankfully we still have second-line drugs that will work against almost all of the organisms that are currently out there, but if you got an infection that couldn't be treated you could absolutely die from it.

Quote:

An analysis of reported gonorrhea cases in the United States demonstrated that, although gonorrhea rates decreased by more than 70 percent between 1981 and 1996, rates remained high in specific subpopulations (figure 1) [3]. This analysis and more data indicate that [2]:

Rates were highest in women ages 15 to 19 years (634.7 cases per 100,000 population in 2003) and men aged 20 to 24 years (465.9 cases per 100,000 population in 2003). Furthermore, rates among 15 to 19 year-olds declined less since 1981 than rates among older persons (figure 1).
The rate of infection also declined among blacks, but less so than in whites. Rates among blacks were 20 times higher in 2003, respectively, compared with 11 times higher in 1981. In 2003, the reported rates among blacks and whites were 655.8 and 32.7 cases per 100,000 population.

Reasons for the racial disparity in gonorrhea rates are not well understood but probably include differences in health services access and utilization, geographic clustering of populations, other interrelated social and economic factors, and sexual partner choices along both socioeconomic and racial lines [4]. In addition, differential reporting by public and private health care providers may magnify the racial differences [3].
Despite decreases since 1981, rates in southeastern states were consistently higher than rates in other areas of the country (figure 2).

[Excelsior]

I don't think the sky is falling just yet. What we're seeing here is likely a VERY early warning sign of a challenge coming up for pharmaceuticals. At this point, there is not yet any "untreatable" Gonorrhea, and there will not be for some time. What we're seeing are more resistant strains than we've seen before, not totally untreatable ones, and these strains are still rare (1.7% of all CDC samples). We've got plenty of time left to avoid a scenario in which untreatable Gonorrhea is common, assuming such a scenario is even likely at any point.

The warning bells we're seeing going off now are going to help ensure that a solution is acquired soon. There is going to be a lot of money in it for the next company that creates a new and effective antibiotic to mitigate and/or deal with this development, and there will be increased public awareness as well due to the somewhat frightening article titles we're seeing.

There are likely already new antibiotics under development as we speak behind closed doors that have yet to be publicized. I highly doubt, given the significance of this news and the potential for massive profit any solution will have, that pharmaceutical companies and many governments have just been and continue to be sitting on their asses and doing nothing (word of more resistant Gonorrhea has been spreading since last year-they've had time). It is only a matter of time before this beast is tamed.

In the meantime, get your women tested before you bareback them. Don't get scared, just get wise. Use a few more precautions (read: condoms, testing, etc) and we'll all be fine.

[gringochileno]

(02-13-2012 11:09 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

There is going to be a lot of money in it for the next company that creates a new and effective antibiotic to mitigate and/or deal with this development
...
There are likely already new antibiotics under development as we speak behind closed doors that have yet to be publicized. I highly doubt, given the significance of this news and the potential for massive profit any solution will have, that pharmaceutical companies and many governments have just been and continue to be sitting on their asses and doing nothing (word of more resistant Gonorrhea has been spreading since last year-they've had time). It is only a matter of time before this beast is tamed.

You'd think so but that isn't the case. Antibiotics are notoriously unprofitable drugs because they're quite expensive to develop, but don't make a lot of money because you only have to use them once. The real money is in drugs for chronic diseases that have to be taken for years or even a lifetime, and it's no accident that most of the new medications coming out have been of this sort, with very few new antibiotics in the pipeline by comparison.

You're right that resistant N. gonorrheae isn't a critical problem yet, but we are seeing the emergence of other infectious bacteria that resist our most powerful drugs (Staph aureus infections for instance), and without a major redoubling of efforts to contain the growing resistance problem we will eventually reach the point where a significant number of people will contract infections that we are incapable of treating.

This is going to require (at minimum) a considerable amount of subsidies for developing novel antibiotics (particularly new classes of drugs, since bacteria tend to develop cross-resistance to drugs within the same class, e.g. gonorrhea resistant to multiple cephalosporins), an end to the widespread use of antibiotics in livestock, and smarter prescribing and usage controls that will discourage doctors from writing inappropriate prescriptions and educate patients to make sure they finish every course of antibiotics they start. The free market ain't gonna solve this one on its own, it's too complex of a problem.

[Timoteo]

I know people that would pop and antibiotic of some kind for a common cold, and I always tell them it's stupid to do that. It's like taking a sledgehammer to kill a fly. Take something over-the-counter that will alleviate symptoms, and let it run its course. You can build up a resistance to antibiotics, and if you REALLY pick up something that's hard to kill, they may have to try a few different ones before they find one that works.