[Mrs. Chocolate]

I have a friend who has a 53 y/o husband. She is 26.

I met a girl 15 days ago in her late 20s dating a 40 and something year old man.

IMO, If I ever met a man that I like in this age, I would date him. In fact, those are the one far more interested on me than the one on my especific age.

[The Fantasist]

(08-07-2012 02:17 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

(08-07-2012 01:54 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

My father is 64 and he has been dating a 21 year old Indonesian girl for a couple of years,they have a one year old daughter together. She wasn't a pro either. Dirty old perv! He is now in the process of setting up a bar over there on a tropical island. The guy has styled his retirement right out.

Expand on his story. What was his background, how did he make his way there, how does he like the life there. As I assume he is UK, why not EE/FSU or LatAm? Downsides? Stories like this are important - most of you will make it to 64. Will you be old, fat, angry guys bitching about life in your home country or "opting out" as this guy did? I just returned from a family gathering in the US Pacific Northwest. A week on a sailboat visiting expensive marinas - filled with prosperous Amerikan couples. Almost to a "T", they are doughy rich guys looking bored with their fat wives and spoiled-bored kids. All living "responsible", "productive",
"acceptable" lives in the hyper-connected, big-box, fast-food cancer called the
United States. (after writing the last two sentences....it's hard to believe that readers bitch about Argentina......)

I went out to Indonesia with my old man to explore the idea of investing in a
business over there. Whilst in a bar in Jakarta we met a guy who told us about the island of Belitung and how nice it was so the next day we flew out there for a look. We went to a cafe there,got talking to the young waitresses ( through sign language and pidgin English ) and they offered to show us their island on their
scooters. So off we set and well,as happens in Indonesia we took them back to the hotel that evening and banged them. He was never the same after that. He'd never traveled to Asia before so the idea that at 60 something he could bang a 19 year old blew him away. He was hooked. Problem was that back home in England he had a misses who he'd been with the last 20 years. On the flight back to London we had this discussion about his future: did he want to spend the rest of his life living with a woman he loved but was no longer attracted to,just living out his days in boredom waiting to die OR did he want to have a last adventure and go out with a bang by moving to Indonesia,building a house on a tropical island and banging teenagers until his dying day? Well my father is an Alpha fucker I'll give him that and he did what we all should do but few would. He came out and told
his misses that he was off to Indonesia,thanks for the last 20 years but life in suburbia wasn't for him. Of course a massive shit storm went down but my father didn't care as he was in his way to Indonesia,the fucker styled it out.

Now he's over in Indonesia on Belitung,he's shacked up with that young waitress and has a kid ( my half sister )with her but he has others on the go. Thank fuck for Viagra he says. He's built a little house on the beach and is now building a bar where he will see out his days drinking with the other foreigners who live on the island. Just shows you that it's never too late to say "fuck it,I want more from life then this".

[Soma]

(08-09-2012 02:09 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Whilst in a bar in Jakarta we met a guy who told us about the island of Belitung and how nice it was so the next day we flew out there for a look.

I thought I thoroughly did my research on places in Indonesia but I never even came across Belitung. Looks beautiful and still quite undeveloped. No time this trip but will have to take a visit my next time over here - maybe bring my dad along as well!

[LostGringo]

(08-09-2012 02:09 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(08-07-2012 02:17 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

(08-07-2012 01:54 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

My father is 64 and he has been dating a 21 year old Indonesian girl for a couple of years,they have a one year old daughter together. She wasn't a pro either. Dirty old perv! He is now in the process of setting up a bar over there on a tropical island. The guy has styled his retirement right out.

Expand on his story. What was his background, how did he make his way there, how does he like the life there. As I assume he is UK, why not EE/FSU or LatAm? Downsides? Stories like this are important - most of you will make it to 64. Will you be old, fat, angry guys bitching about life in your home country or "opting out" as this guy did? I just returned from a family gathering in the US Pacific Northwest. A week on a sailboat visiting expensive marinas - filled with prosperous Amerikan couples. Almost to a "T", they are doughy rich guys looking bored with their fat wives and spoiled-bored kids. All living "responsible", "productive",
"acceptable" lives in the hyper-connected, big-box, fast-food cancer called the
United States. (after writing the last two sentences....it's hard to believe that readers bitch about Argentina......)

I went out to Indonesia with my old man to explore the idea of investing in a
business over there. Whilst in a bar in Jakarta we met a guy who told us about the island of Belitung and how nice it was so the next day we flew out there for a look. We went to a cafe there,got talking to the young waitresses ( through sign language and pidgin English ) and they offered to show us their island on their
scooters. So off we set and well,as happens in Indonesia we took them back to the hotel that evening and banged them. He was never the same after that. He'd never traveled to Asia before so the idea that at 60 something he could bang a 19 year old blew him away. He was hooked. Problem was that back home in England he had a misses who he'd been with the last 20 years. On the flight back to London we had this discussion about his future: did he want to spend the rest of his life living with a woman he loved but was no longer attracted to,just living out his days in boredom waiting to die OR did he want to have a last adventure and go out with a bang by moving to Indonesia,building a house on a tropical island and banging teenagers until his dying day? Well my father is an Alpha fucker I'll give him that and he did what we all should do but few would. He came out and told
his misses that he was off to Indonesia,thanks for the last 20 years but life in suburbia wasn't for him. Of course a massive shit storm went down but my father didn't care as he was in his way to Indonesia,the fucker styled it out.

Now he's over in Indonesia on Belitung,he's shacked up with that young waitress and has a kid ( my half sister )with her but he has others on the go. Thank fuck for Viagra he says. He's built a little house on the beach and is now building a bar where he will see out his days drinking with the other foreigners who live on the island. Just shows you that it's never too late to say "fuck it,I want more from life then this".

Elegant. Listen up young men - this is how its done.

[chamele0n]

(02-12-2012 01:13 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Many Russian couples I see walking around here in Goa have an obvious age disparity of 10 to 15 years, moreover there is also quite a disparity in terms of looks, even if the guy is about the same age. It's rare to see Russian couples at the same level of attractiveness, the girl is invariably 2 to 3 points higher, sometimes much more.

Another thing I have seen is that travelling seems to obliterate age differences. It's not uncommon to see cool obviously older guys(40s and up), with girls in their 20s. The guy usually looks like the artist/hippy/musician/world traveller type. I have seen this across all backgrounds, but seems more common amongst Europeans(French, German, Italian).

I hate to bust some of your guys' bubbles but from what I see, here is the reality I observe on the ground in Russia:

18-year old girls don't want to date anyone older than about 3-4 years than them. They don't seem to care about how much money you have. I really don't see any 30 year old guys dating 18 year olds in Russia. From what I see, even guys in their early 20s get blown out faster than you can say go trying to hit on 18-year olds. And this is in 3rd tier!

20-24-year old girls seem to accept age gaps of up to 10 years, possibly more, depending on your game and/or bankroll. By this age they understand that relationships are not all about romantic love and that money is important too. Sadly enough, 90% of the hot ones are already in relationships by the time they get to about age 24 and we all know what a pain in the back it is to get a girl to break up with someone.

I wonder if the situation is similar in Ukraine.

[Midlands Man]

Bulgaria :

Women dating older men +10 years not uncommon. As long as the man is stable and a good provider older men can do okay here. Good fashion sense / style also important to Bulgarian women, model male looks not necessary here.

[iknowexactly]

I'm over 50, and I've been looking a lot at DateinAsia, althoug I think they have crooked programmers because gmail said someone tried to break into my account originating in Philippines-- and I reused a medium security password on my login there.

The age of chicks I'm hot for doesn't seem to change much as I age, I think it's hard wired to to be in line with fertility. I could still have 6 kids with a 20 year old.

I looked at both Philippines and Indonesia, and many, many more of the Filipinas write that they accept way higher age ranges, many up to 80!
the Indonesian chicks seem to be much stricter, with a lot saying 35 tops.

I know that is not what really always happens but maybe an older guy who wants early 20's is better off in the Philippines. Input?

The guy who said an ugly 19 year old is cuter than a lovely 35 year old is really right from my impressions....

[chamele0n]

(05-08-2013 06:04 PM)Midlands Man Wrote:  

Bulgaria :

Women dating older men +10 years not uncommon. As long as the man is stable and a good provider older men can do okay here. Good fashion sense / style also important to Bulgarian women, model male looks not necessary here.

It seems pretty common in a many countries for girls 20+ to be dating older guys. It would be more interesting to determine how often girls younger than 20 do it too.

[chamele0n]

(05-08-2013 06:09 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

The guy who said an ugly 19 year old is cuter than a lovely 35 year old is really right from my impressions....

Age in and of itself is not that useful in determining the value of a woman. Obviously the girl has to be hot first. There are plenty of ugly 18 year old hogs.

First you determine if the girl is hot or not. Then if she is - she gets extra points for age. If she is not hot - age doesn't matter.

A hot girl will still be reasonably hot even at 33, although you would deduct a point or two for her age at that time.

[ManAbout]

(05-08-2013 04:39 PM)chamele0n Wrote:  

I hate to bust some of your guys' bubbles but from what I see, here is the reality I observe on the ground in Russia:

Are you Russian?

[Wayout]

Russian girls will date/marry someone 10-12 years older - no problem! Especially from smaller places and villages to move up to a bigger city. If you are rich/foreigner - then age difference can be even greater, just don't expect true love from her.

The best age difference one can pull off is in SE Asia in my experience.

[Ridge Black]

(08-09-2012 02:09 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

I went out to Indonesia with my old man to explore the idea of investing in a
business over there. Whilst in a bar in Jakarta we met a guy who told us about the island of Belitung and how nice it was so the next day we flew out there for a look. We went to a cafe there,got talking to the young waitresses ( through sign language and pidgin English ) and they offered to show us their island on their
scooters. So off we set and well,as happens in Indonesia we took them back to the hotel that evening and banged them. He was never the same after that. He'd never traveled to Asia before so the idea that at 60 something he could bang a 19 year old blew him away. He was hooked. Problem was that back home in England he had a misses who he'd been with the last 20 years. On the flight back to London we had this discussion about his future: did he want to spend the rest of his life living with a woman he loved but was no longer attracted to,just living out his days in boredom waiting to die OR did he want to have a last adventure and go out with a bang by moving to Indonesia,building a house on a tropical island and banging teenagers until his dying day? Well my father is an Alpha fucker I'll give him that and he did what we all should do but few would. He came out and told
his misses that he was off to Indonesia,thanks for the last 20 years but life in suburbia wasn't for him. Of course a massive shit storm went down but my father didn't care as he was in his way to Indonesia,the fucker styled it out.

Now he's over in Indonesia on Belitung,he's shacked up with that young waitress and has a kid ( my half sister )with her but he has others on the go. Thank fuck for Viagra he says. He's built a little house on the beach and is now building a bar where he will see out his days drinking with the other foreigners who live on the island. Just shows you that it's never too late to say "fuck it,I want more from life then this".

I read your EPIC posts on the French Riviera. I'm wondering about age gaps down there. I'm 40 but I still dig the young bunnies, is it doable in France or largely a dead end like UK and the States?

Also, anyone who's got info on southern Spain (Valencia/Barcelona) I'd be much obliged.

[Beyond Borders]

RVF Retirement Planning.

[Beyond Borders]

(08-08-2012 12:58 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

I have a friend who has a 53 y/o husband. She is 26.

I met a girl 15 days ago in her late 20s dating a 40 and something year old man.

IMO, If I ever met a man that I like in this age, I would date him. In fact, those are the one far more interested on me than the one on my especific age.

Let me know if you have any daughters and I'll hit you up in about 20 years.

[Ridge Black]

(10-04-2013 01:55 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

RVF Retirement Planning.

You have no idea how right you are. Young guys don't want to compete with older guys that have more scratch, but they gotta keep in mind that their libido isn't going to just dry up at 30. It's a lie man. I wanna fuck just as bad now, at 40, as I did a 16.

Worse, I like the same age of girls as I did then (16-24).

[speakeasy]

(02-12-2012 01:31 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I think American girls while mostly college educated are generally stupid on the average except for their obsessive knowledge of popular culture. They just have nothing to talk about with older guys.

European women are more inherently intellectual and enjoy the level of conversation and companionship that an older more experienced man can bring.

This post is a bit old now, but AMEN. That is my experience exactly. I was at a lost for explaining why I can talk to European girls from 18-22 and have a completely normal, enjoyable conversation, but an American girl that age would be intolerable for even 10 minutes of conversation. A 21 year old woman from Europe(England non-withstanding) may be the mental equivalent of a 30 year old American woman. That's been my experience.

Does anyone have more intel for Latin America outside of the Dominican Republic? How about Mexico, Colombia, Brazil?

[Capitán Peligroso]

(10-04-2013 04:22 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(02-12-2012 01:31 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I think American girls while mostly college educated are generally stupid on the average except for their obsessive knowledge of popular culture. They just have nothing to talk about with older guys.

European women are more inherently intellectual and enjoy the level of conversation and companionship that an older more experienced man can bring.

This post is a bit old now, but AMEN. That is my experience exactly. I was at a lost for explaining why I can talk to European girls from 18-22 and have a completely normal, enjoyable conversation, but an American girl that age would be intolerable for even 10 minutes of conversation. A 21 year old woman from Europe(England non-withstanding) may be the mental equivalent of a 30 year old American woman. That's been my experience.

Does anyone have more intel for Latin America outside of the Dominican Republic? How about Mexico, Colombia, Brazil?

Your mileage may vary from girl to girl, but my experience in Brazil was that the women there are generally more mature than Americans at any given age, though I did find that higher education was required to have the worldliness I prefer in someone I'd want around the house for more than an hour or two.

[rudebwoy]

Canada and USA are the hardest countries when it comes to dating women in their 20's, if you over 40. Like anything else the key is how well the you keep yourself and how interesting you are.
I went on a date recently with a girl 18 years my junior, it was an eye opening experience because it gave me an insight as to what younger men are doing.

[hipster]

Here in Rio you can easily date 15 years old and up until your late 20s, by the 30s or by the time you look like 30s it is hard to even date early 20s girls.

Warning: If you into early teen girls, in Brazil sex with 14 years old and below is rape accoring to the law, make outs are allowed. Judges themselves don't give a fuck but better not risk. Parents usually also don't care if you are not much older, i.e. the girl is 13 and you are 18 or 19...

[hipster]

(08-07-2012 03:12 PM)lotharius Wrote:  

In Ukraine the guys are not interested in girls over 30, because they tend to have some serious mental issues.

Same here, i find them attractive but i am scared of over 30s for this very reason.

[Pilgrim37]

I put a filthy poem on the m4w section of Craigslist in the UK a couple of months ago.

I got only one decent reply.

5ft10 stunner ,half Brazilian.

I thought the photos were part of some scam and the request for money was on it's way.....well that was until I met her!

I pointed out the age difference before we met up.

Met up twice so far...Saying goodbye at the Tube station She went for the full pash on 2nd meeting.

I'm 40 ...she just turned 22....tasting that sweetness is like being born again!

I pointed out our age difference on the first meeting,she said,"Does it bother you?"

Haven't bedded her yet...let's see if her enthusiasm continues.Girls that age change day to day from my experience...but I'm willing to enjoy the short ride.

[Akula]

(05-08-2013 04:39 PM)chamele0n Wrote:  

(02-12-2012 01:13 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Many Russian couples I see walking around here in Goa have an obvious age disparity of 10 to 15 years, moreover there is also quite a disparity in terms of looks, even if the guy is about the same age. It's rare to see Russian couples at the same level of attractiveness, the girl is invariably 2 to 3 points higher, sometimes much more.

Another thing I have seen is that travelling seems to obliterate age differences. It's not uncommon to see cool obviously older guys(40s and up), with girls in their 20s. The guy usually looks like the artist/hippy/musician/world traveller type. I have seen this across all backgrounds, but seems more common amongst Europeans(French, German, Italian).

I hate to bust some of your guys' bubbles but from what I see, here is the reality I observe on the ground in Russia:

18-year old girls don't want to date anyone older than about 3-4 years than them. They don't seem to care about how much money you have. I really don't see any 30 year old guys dating 18 year olds in Russia. From what I see, even guys in their early 20s get blown out faster than you can say go trying to hit on 18-year olds. And this is in 3rd tier!

20-24-year old girls seem to accept age gaps of up to 10 years, possibly more, depending on your game and/or bankroll. By this age they understand that relationships are not all about romantic love and that money is important too. Sadly enough, 90% of the hot ones are already in relationships by the time they get to about age 24 and we all know what a pain in the back it is to get a girl to break up with someone.

I wonder if the situation is similar in Ukraine.

Sorry but re the 20-24 year old bracket this is not entirely correct.

I live in Russia and I'm in my early 40s - sure I look younger than that by say 7-8 years, but EVERY girl I've been with here has been 27 or younger and I've had more than my fare share of those between 21-24. That includes 3 right now currently, including a 21-year old, a 23-year old and another 24 year old (first one I've only kissed). I even toyed around with a super hot 19 year old earlier this year (she sort of used me a bit for karaoke and a dinner though). So they will definitely accept 15-20 year age gaps if you play your cards right and pick the right ones.

That said, I'm sure many girls subscribe to what you've written above, but certainly not all. Once girls hit 25+ here they are dying to get married and older guys with established careers or provider vibes do very well. Just sayin'. Not sure how much longer I can keep running this game with the 20-25 crowd but I'm trying my hardest and have 2 more prospects below 24 in the pipeline now!))

[EuroSlumming]

Great stuff Akula, question do you tell them your real age? If so is there any reaction?

One thing I've noticed in Eastern Europe is that girls guess my age way lower, I believe this is because the local guys general look older in their late 30's early 40's. So perhaps, if they were asked about it, the girls are not so open for a large age gap, but in person they believe you're much younger so it is not such an issue.

[Akula]

(10-08-2013 02:56 PM)EuroSlumming Wrote:  

Great stuff Akula, question do you tell them your real age? If so is there any reaction?

I mentioned my 'age gap' explanation approach in another thread, forget which one, but it's a good one so check it out. But basically if they ask I go back at them and ask them to guess, then when they say 36-7-8 or whatever I say "very close, you're psychic - wow!!" etc. and usually that ends it on a happy note. If I have to end up fibbing I do and just agree to one of their final guesses (so they frame it up) and then leave it at that. I'm not about to lose a potential girl over some silly hangup she might have over 'age gap' so I am comfortable with it really. We're not getting married or meeting the parents 90 percent of the time so why should it be an issue that potentially takes me out of the game at least on a short-term basis??? I might have to up the age as I get older but 20 years is no problem for me now.

BTW I was away this weekend with a girl who I had earlier told I was 39. Inevitably, in line at the airport and at customs she kept asking to look at my passport and finally I just said "fine" and gave it to her so she found out I was older. She got mad but then got over it after an hour. We've been shagging for well over a month now and she's invested a bit in me, so I think they generally are ok with the realization that I'm older, esp. after multiple bangs. Better to "beg for forgiveness than ask for permission" I think.

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One thing I've noticed in Eastern Europe is that girls guess my age way lower, I believe this is because the local guys general look older in their late 30's early 40's. So perhaps, if they were asked about it, the girls are not so open for a large age gap, but in person they believe you're much younger so it is not such an issue.

This is very true in my experience in Russia. Guys in their late 30s and 40s here tend to look older than they really are, and so if you are western and tend to look younger than your age it throws them off. They also generally don't care as much about age difference. A lot of guys here are dead at 50 anyway so I guess if they can get a few good years out of you it's a win from their viewpoint??

[xmlenigma]

Whats the poem?

(10-05-2013 04:39 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

I put a filthy poem on the m4w section of Craigslist in the UK a couple of months ago.

I got only one decent reply.

5ft10 stunner ,half Brazilian.

I thought the photos were part of some scam and the request for money was on it's way.....well that was until I met her!

I pointed out the age difference before we met up.

Met up twice so far...Saying goodbye at the Tube station She went for the full pash on 2nd meeting.

I'm 40 ...she just turned 22....tasting that sweetness is like being born again!

I pointed out our age difference on the first meeting,she said,"Does it bother you?"

Haven't bedded her yet...let's see if her enthusiasm continues.Girls that age change day to day from my experience...but I'm willing to enjoy the short ride.