Quote: (02-17-2012 10:00 PM)Sebastian Wrote:
Did I just complain? (how many people read the whole thing?) Like I said, I am just trying to be a Realist.
First of all, I think you're in
race trolling territory with continued ramblings about the "Asian man's low-tiered sexual image/attractiveness" but I'll bite...
You're definitely being a realist regarding the status quo of Asian guys' sexual attractiveness/date-ability in your area (I assume within USA). But
you don't need to accept it, I don't and don't care if the rest of society is against my desires. Again, there's other markets you're forgetting that might be more favorable to you--the ones where you don't currently live.
The gist that I got from of your post is, "I can only appeal to a niche group, why waste time? Why fight the forces? I should just target people who want me." Sounds very self-limiting/defeating to me and goes against the spirit of this forum of men trying to make themselves be the best they can be with women, travel, lifestyle, and everything else.
Do you even realize how difficult it is to "target people who might want you" in the first place? Are you a mind reader?
You should be doing like you wrote what you should be doing: approaching more. That's how you find the girls who'll say "yes" to you.
You can't possibly read the minds of women before approaching. You can't be thinking what they might be thinking or what kind of man they might want. You've no time to think about "societal forces" when you're simply talking to another human being. Yes forces exist and be aware, but don't get fixated on it and let that bog you down. Women are fickle, they don't really know what they want till they get older and "wiser."
Quote: (02-17-2012 10:00 PM)Sebastian Wrote:
Btw, I see racial comments here which is very common in America. (they don't say it in public though)
I really hate when people see 'Asian' word, they automatically judge the guy as who's short, skinny, plays video game, has weird style and smart than majority of Americans (I like this part though)
I am not like a guy from Hangover who thinks, just by learning some game, I can score a hot blonde.
Again, are you a mind reader? You focus too much on what other people think. Let them think whatever "Asian" is! Do they define you?
And if people are using that word in an offensive context here, don’t be afraid to call them out on it!
Quote: (02-17-2012 10:00 PM)Sebastian Wrote:
I am 6"2, work out regularly, doesn't come off as weak. (In fact, I handled this muscular but shorter white guy like a little kid when he tried to fight with me in front of his girls to impress them)
I try to dress stylish but not feminine way. I don't have those shaggy hair style and keep it short.
I banged this white girl and she told me 'you are a machine'. so I don't have problem in bed either.
good for you.
Quote: (02-17-2012 10:00 PM)Sebastian Wrote:
I just read a racial totem pole by Roosh. I kind of got depressed by it. But here is the thing.
When people throw the word 'Spanish guy' (real spanish not some mexican guy), people here think about the hottest spanish guy they can think of.
It's the same for Italians, French etc.
When they say 'Americans', they think about movie figures. When I drive around, I see bunch of fat people, white trashes, junkies, average joes, just normal people, few good looking ones. That's the real truth for Every Countries. Most of them don't look like movie figures. I am sure America has an upper hand because of hollywood movies.
When it comes to 'Asian guys', they think about those people at the bottom for looks.
So people compare those hot spanish guys to nerdy asian ones. Who's going to be valued more?
I just find it funny because some people say 'fcuk dude, we are all the same. change your mindset' and the others say 'in reality you guys are at the bottom, sorry'
I understand the reality though. Foreign exchange student from europe is going to be treated better than a guy from some asian countries. (same looks, same personalities)
First, what “people” are you talking about? Are you talking about people here on this forum? In your area? In a particular country?
I’ve traveled the world and people have different perceptions of what “Asian” means to them.
I'm aware that the things above are ignorant and have tortured me in the past,
until one day I asked myself: "What can I do instead of mope about it?"
And as much as I'm a Roosh fan, I don't let his opinions or observations on racial attractiveness hinder my sexual experiences. I do my thing!
Quote: (02-17-2012 10:00 PM)Sebastian Wrote:
I am not just going after white chicks. (another judgmental comment someone made) I like pretty girls in any race. ...
So basically, everyone has a preference. She won't find you attractive no matter how tight your game is. (applies to any races)
Now, are you going to tell me 'you are thinking negative, don't act like a loser', What are you? a brain washed future PUA? (who thinks he can get any chicks as long as he studies and practices hard?)
I was just trying to say 'Don't stop improving yourself. Meet girls. If they don't find you attractive, don't get hard feelings and move on'
But...you
do sound negative and I never got the feeling that you're trying to say, "don't stop improving yourself..." to us.
Instead, I sensed “hard feelings” on your words. Especially when you dedicate paragraphs on how Asian guy’s looks are perceived compared to other guys.
Like you said, move on to the next one if they don’t like you and get in where you fit in (thx, athlone) Which is the whole point of this forum!
Quote: (02-17-2012 10:00 PM)Sebastian Wrote:
Let me ask you about those issues (I am not trying to create a fight here, I think there is a culture difference here)
I saw white guys asking about 'hey guys, I am into this asian chick. she just hangs out asian people and is surrounded by them. how should I approach?'
Do you think he is such a dumb ass who has no balls to approach? I've never seen someone talking bad about the guy.
We as Asians, will say something like 'hey man, I totally see how you feel. It's nothing wrong if you feel uncomfortable blah blah'
What if an Asian guy asks the same question? 'hey guys, I am the only asian dude in this bar. she is hanging out with bunch of white guys and girls. I think I will get stared at if I approach one of the white girls there'
Common answer? 'dude, it's just in your head. Grow some balls and have some confidence blah blah'
When I try to give some advice, I try to put myself in their shoes first. I think the culture is not like that here.
Show me a thread on the second scenario, first scenario I’ve read around here.
Generally, from my experience people have been helpful here it’s when you continue to bitch and be negative despite the advice given to you (that you haven’t tried) that turns people off.