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Which group is responsible for the predicament that Western Civilization finds itself
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Which group is responsible for the predicament that Western Civilization finds itself

I don't really think we can blame women, after all they are simply like children doing and taking what they have been allowed.

I choose Red pilled men, since we should be the ones driving society. We got blindsided in the 80's I think and have never recovered.

1. Red-pilled men (ourselves) because we have forgotten the lessons of history
2. Insecure and weak Beta and Gamma males posing as alphas
3. The elites (non (((usual suspects)))) who have fallen into decadence
4. Leftists and leftist allies they are virtually the same people as #3 at this point.
5. (((The usual suspects)))
6. Degenerate alpha males who misuse their gifts
7. Christianity
8. Women

"Women however should get a spanking at least once a week by their husbands and boyfriends - that should be mandated by law" - Zelcorpion
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