Quote: (03-15-2019 11:02 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:
Brothers, we should understand that the fundamental assumption of this topic is wrong. Women can and do love men idealistically. Men can and do love women opportunistically. They say a man is only as faithful as his options... and if you search within yourself you will understand that this is predominantly true.
Real love... the kind we want from women and they want from us requires emotional control and some logical capabilities. You have to be able to be a master of your emotions and not allow them to sweep you in whatever direction they take. The reason we feel that Western women are absolute mercenaries in matters of love is because they are raised on the disney princess model of love. They go wherever their whimsical emotions take them. We should recognize that most men in the west are similar to this.
I live near a military base. I see women who run off and cheat 5 seconds after their man deploys... and I've seen women who spend the rest of their lives faithfully loving and caring for a disabled vet.
You got a point. Although I would agree with the OP here that most women seem to fall into the category of loving opportunistically, it's good to know that there probably exist some exceptions.
Like this English woman who didn't see a reason to live anymore after her boyfriend died: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-life.html
I guess she must really have loved that guy. I would love to be loved that way by a woman but I suppose the likelihood of me meeting a woman like that are very slim in today's world.
Actually, one might argue that she was only devastated because she no longer had an alpha chad around, not because she loved HIM specifically. It's debatable.
But one aspect I haven't seen brought up here yet, but which I think is relevant to understand this on a deeper level somehow is women's love for their children because that must play in here.
The love I know my mother feels for me seems to be much more of the intrinsic love dynamic that I've always sought in a relationship. But no woman apart from my mum and grandmum has ever really given much fuck about me. I was the youngest child and my sister used to care about me but once I grew up and wasn't as cute anymore and once she had a kid herself, even she stopped caring about me and we never talk anymore. I acted like a beta for many years with my sister and sought her approval and wanted her to care as much about me as when I was a cute little kid.
But she's unbelievably cold to everyone nowadays except to her kid, even her husband.
And my mum might treat me better than any other person has ever done in my life, but she's usually not so nice with my father. It's like a lot of women just see a man as a tool to have kids meanwhile I think my dad would prioritize her over his kids any day of the week.