Quote: (11-29-2018 08:53 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:
Quote: (11-28-2018 06:18 AM)Zoso Wrote:
Quote: (11-28-2018 04:08 AM)BadBoyGamer Wrote:
Quote:Zoso Wrote:
Less than 20% of girls deserve my game/time/carisma.
Always makes me laugh when guys say something like this.
As if you are floating on a cloud above us all.
Well, it's not my problem if you understand it on the wrong way, as if I was saying that I am better than you or anyone. Relax your ego.
Not at all. I just mean, matter of taste.
I am not saying that Im a badass slaying pussies. Just that even in a group of 10 girls that are 7-8, perhaps I would connect with 5, 6... I dont know. I cant do 'click' with all people, and I dont force myself to get attracted.
And if in the same group, you connect with all of then and then fuck them, it's all ok.
It doesnt mean that you or me are better than anyone.
PS. Maybe I used wrong words for english language and it seemed kind of arrogant.. Xcuse me, I am spanish speaker.
Actually, it IS your problem if he misunderstands you because you are by your own admission not a native English speaker. If you'd said that in the beginning he would've likely asked you to clarify or at least had that context when replying. Instead, you used it as an excuse afterwards and called HIM arrogant.
The arrogant one is the one that has a poor grasp on a language and instead of letting the others know that, he tells them it's not his problem that they don't understand him. That's hugely arrogant.
Quote: (11-27-2018 09:09 PM)Zoso Wrote:
Less than 20% of girls deserve my game/time/carisma.
This is why i started to learn game.
Id must be payed to be in that 'great' 20% of guys.
It would be more accurate to say that you started to learn game because you are not getting the girls you want. This is the same as for a guy who is not getting ANY girls and would settle for girls you wouldn't consider.
To say you would need to be paid in order to be in the top 20% of the guys that are getting the majority of the women is a fundamental understanding of the principle. I'll explain more below:
Quote: (11-27-2018 01:12 PM)Zoso Wrote:
What is the proof that 20% guys are fucking 80% girls?
Fellas, even if I have a group of 100 random girls, most probably I would find hot and fuckable just 20-30, being generous.
So, I would not want to be in the 20% of guys that are banging not so pretty girls.
For this 4-6 girls, I would prefer P4P.
There have been good posts showing how we know that 20% of the guys are getting 80% of the women so I won't go into that further.
The very fact that you are talking about only the girls you would find hot and fuckable (the more attractive ones who have the qualities you desire) shows that you misunderstand the principle. The 20% of women that the 80% of guys are getting are by definition the lowest quality, foremost in terms of attractiveness, but also in other secondary qualities.
The reality is that the guys who are fucking the hottest but sluttiest girls (or that have some other quality you find a turn off) are likely a small subset of this 20%. Likely within the top 2-3% of the ENTIRE pool of men.
What you want to be is somewhere in that 20% but NOT in the very top who don't care if a woman has the qualities to be a good seamstress (or whatever quality you're looking for).
Think of it this way. You want to be in the top 20% of income. This means you're likely going to need to be working for yourself (such as a freelancer/contractor) or have your own business. Just because you choose qualities that are more important to you (such as flexibility of your schedule or long-term contracting/job stability) doesn't mean that you'd want to be in that bottom 80%.
Also, we do not advocate P4P here, so that's a bad idea to encourage in any way.
Quote: (11-29-2018 05:35 PM)Zoso Wrote:
Using tinder to get statistics is like going to a brothel where few women workers are having sex more than 8 times a day with a lot of guys.
It simple doesn't show the average reality.
No, it's not. It's not even close to that. Assuming they used good methodology it's representative of Tinder users and likely most dating apps like it. Considering that these dating apps are the most common way to meet someone (at least the lowest effort method), it's at minimum something to consider.
Your defeatist/negative attitude is not going to get you anywhere with women and certainly not all that far in life. I suggest you knock it off and try a different approach.
Quote: (11-29-2018 07:35 PM)Jaxon Wrote:
The manosphere was instrumental in getting a lot of young men off their asses and forcing them out of inceldom. Unfortunately, platforms like RSD and even this site teach a truckload of bullshit that needs to be unlearned in order to have a satisfying life.
This site meaning all the stuff anyone posts, or do you mean this site as in the high quality posts by the highly repped and highly respected members. If you're not focusing your learning on this site from only the highly repped and highly respected members, then YOU are accepting a truckload of bullshit.
@AneroidOcean
I'll go a little bit tangent here . I have been reading this thread and it gets me thinking .
How would you know if you are in 20% ?
The reason I am asking is because I am, by no means , handsome . I am not ugly though . But what happened this year was mind blowing for me .
1- Three girls ( 6,7, and 5) stopped me and opened me in the street . My game sucks so I couldn't close . One of them even suggested going to happy hour after we talk for like 20 min.
2- Whenever I go out, I got a lot of IOI's .
3- A coworker blushed , breathed heavily and played with her earlobe and hair when I talked to her. She even touched my biceps, and rubbed my back. She has a BF btw.
I am 5'6" , brown dude, very well dressed, and average build. My game is still so bad . When I say bad, I mean very bad. I fuck up with "yes" girls . This is how bad my game is.
Either I am in the top 20% or this rule doesn't exist. Or maybe I am underestimating my quality