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(11-06-2018 12:54 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 10:25 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

Hello new member, you reveal everything needed in your post, and it's all about you not the women. Your homework is to read Duke Main's story.

Your proposed solution is to give up your frame. If you don't know what that means there are many posts, it means your unmovable position as a man. This pursuit is prima facie becoming a man who is pedestaling a woman who does not exist, instead of making life better where you are.

The best women anywhere want a man with his shit together so your plan to get a woman is to become a backpacker and consume your savings?

It sounds like you want a character actor instead of a wife. You are 33 and haven't moved beyond the 7th grade generalizations, white, model, latin, crazy, old.

Can you think of a better plan?

^ I second that. The likelihood of finding a partner that ends up being the right one comes unexpectedly when you're aggressively chasing those other fine pursuits in life (insert whatever).

What else makes you tick outside of just enjoying the comforts of your native culture & merely finding a suitable LTR?

If you haven't found "the one" yet, maybe it's a great idea to take on other:
A) side business ventures,
B) new hobbies,
C) travel to new destinations outside of the bubbles you've been exposed to.

^(I have a lot of married friends who WISH they could do any of the following above but are handcuffed by their situation obviously).

I once again have to agree with OTR bc you still have a LOT to experience in life outside of drifting back to your roots and/or finding a suitable LTR.

Totally disagree with both of the above.

Man is a hunter, we chase what we want, and we conquer it.

To chase money/professional upgrades in the hopes that it will lead to a quality woman, especially in the West, is completely off base. If you want to chase money and professional upgrades, by all means do so, but the correlation between success in that area and success with women is very weak in the West nowadays. Sure, if you become a rap star or movie star, this success will translate, but let's be real, 99.9999% of people will not become rap starts or movie stars. Living in a fantasy land where we dole out advice based on that best case scenario is silly.

If you follow their advice, most likely you will achieve some money/professional success. You will also be older by the time that happens, offsetting most, or all, or more than, the gains achieved.

To put the situation in layman's terms, in the West you're better off being unemployed and having a great instagram account than working 60 hours a week, having a fat bank account, and having a law degree, in terms of what it will do for you in regards to meeting women, both of low and high quality.

Work on yourself if you want, definitely, it's a magnificent pursuit, but in no way will it compensate, for 99.9999% of us anyhow, for the losses you incur in this area by staying in the West longer.

One of the posters mentioned how "finding the right one comes unexpectedly," and he's correct in a way, if you were a gay bottom or a woman, this could happen. You can just go for walks and "the right one" can notice your great ass or aesthetic face and come unexpectedly, maybe right on that great ass or aesthetic face. As a man, however, this notion is absurd. The right one will not come along in some freak event, for most of us anyhow, even if you are good looking, and that means if you want a quality girl, you have to actively prioritize the search for that girl.

If you're looking for a girl that's fairly commonly found, then the above advice is actually fine, and I think that's at the core of the divergence in thought in threads like this. If, on the other hand, you're looking for a virgin or low partner count girl from a two parent family who doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't do drugs, has no tattoos, is bright, and is kind and still able to trust 100%, then that search needs to be prioritized if you want a shot at success. Those women simply don't exist in the West in large enough numbers to make finding them by happenstance feasible. Focused action is required for those girls. For damaged women, promiscuous women, single moms, older women, tattooed women, yes, for them, take the advice of the posters above, absolutely, don't prioritize women over career/money if that's the kind of women you consort with.

And on the off chance that either of the posters above did secure a quality woman by following their own advice, then I'm happy for their good fortune, but that good fortune would be the exception, not the rule.