Kind of getting away from the thread purpose, although interestingly it has gone in the direction that I aluded before.
The idea that what 'game' means has changed a fair bit in recent years.
Mysterymethod had his 5 for 5 rule and believed that 'game' was all you need.
Even when I first started posting here only a few years back, people would be reprimanded for implying that looks even played a role in the outcome of a cold approach, and now interestingly, this is one of the more 'looks matter!' game forums that I read.
Game, it's products, the books etc now tend to promote 'game' as basically 'approach girls and see who's into you''. There's been a clear shift. No more routines and rules. ''What you say doesn't matter''! Get your inner game handles and approach girls! Escalate on those who are feeling you.
Someone mentioned 'the rational male' blog above.
On there, the guys actually do believe that you can be 120 years old with no arms and a lopsided face and still bang 100% of the hot teenagers you choose from 'game' alone. If you got rejected, your game simply wasn't good enough Don't blame your lack of legs and advanced years and odd looking face.
Well respected posted 'HavingABadDay' literally confirmed this recently when he was in discussion with someone on the blog.
(presumably he can bang 100% of the girls he wants!! How else could someone truly believe something!!?![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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My view is definitely more along the lines of Mark Manson and so, in a sense, i'm sitting on the fence (that rhymed) He believes in the 'yes girls' 'no girls' and 'maybe girls', where 'no girls' are never gonna be into you no matter how much 'game' you have.
Namely, of course 'game' exists. Social skills count! for sure! But there ARE limits!!! As someone who wasn't blessed with great looks, i'd LOVE to believe that by simply saying the right lines and with good body language and charisma (game, and game alone) I could bang any girl I want until the day I die. I don't think that's the case, though. I've never seen (in real life or an infield with aparent 'pros') someone bang a hard 'no girl' from a cold approach. Maybe getting all PUA's to wear super realistic ugly latex masks to see how they do should be the next move
One way I think about it is that 'perfect game' might give you 2 more points max. If you're a 5, with amazing game, you are now a 7 (at your peak!) but if that 18 year old cheerleader only wants a 9+, you're out of luck!
I think theraionalmale is a bit dangerous in their beliefs with game in that you spend a lifetime looking for answers in the wrong places. ''What line should I have said?! I thought I passed the shit test using agree ad amplify theory, but I guess not!! Must read more''... ''Maybe my approach angle was off by a few degrees?!!'' when the true answer was that ''she just wasn't into, dude! In the same way that you aren't into Rosie O'Donnel''
The idea that what 'game' means has changed a fair bit in recent years.
Mysterymethod had his 5 for 5 rule and believed that 'game' was all you need.
Even when I first started posting here only a few years back, people would be reprimanded for implying that looks even played a role in the outcome of a cold approach, and now interestingly, this is one of the more 'looks matter!' game forums that I read.
Game, it's products, the books etc now tend to promote 'game' as basically 'approach girls and see who's into you''. There's been a clear shift. No more routines and rules. ''What you say doesn't matter''! Get your inner game handles and approach girls! Escalate on those who are feeling you.
Someone mentioned 'the rational male' blog above.
On there, the guys actually do believe that you can be 120 years old with no arms and a lopsided face and still bang 100% of the hot teenagers you choose from 'game' alone. If you got rejected, your game simply wasn't good enough Don't blame your lack of legs and advanced years and odd looking face.
Well respected posted 'HavingABadDay' literally confirmed this recently when he was in discussion with someone on the blog.
(presumably he can bang 100% of the girls he wants!! How else could someone truly believe something!!?
)My view is definitely more along the lines of Mark Manson and so, in a sense, i'm sitting on the fence (that rhymed) He believes in the 'yes girls' 'no girls' and 'maybe girls', where 'no girls' are never gonna be into you no matter how much 'game' you have.
Namely, of course 'game' exists. Social skills count! for sure! But there ARE limits!!! As someone who wasn't blessed with great looks, i'd LOVE to believe that by simply saying the right lines and with good body language and charisma (game, and game alone) I could bang any girl I want until the day I die. I don't think that's the case, though. I've never seen (in real life or an infield with aparent 'pros') someone bang a hard 'no girl' from a cold approach. Maybe getting all PUA's to wear super realistic ugly latex masks to see how they do should be the next move
One way I think about it is that 'perfect game' might give you 2 more points max. If you're a 5, with amazing game, you are now a 7 (at your peak!) but if that 18 year old cheerleader only wants a 9+, you're out of luck!
I think theraionalmale is a bit dangerous in their beliefs with game in that you spend a lifetime looking for answers in the wrong places. ''What line should I have said?! I thought I passed the shit test using agree ad amplify theory, but I guess not!! Must read more''... ''Maybe my approach angle was off by a few degrees?!!'' when the true answer was that ''she just wasn't into, dude! In the same way that you aren't into Rosie O'Donnel''