[captain_shane]

(07-30-2018 04:27 PM)Lime Wrote:  

(07-12-2018 03:10 AM)gringoed Wrote:  

Hippies don't like some things about right-wingers which keeps them from identifying as such.

They feel that right wingers are:

-heartless (no sense of caring for fellow human beings)
-addicted to money (and willing to step on others in its pursuit)
-violators of female liberation (freedom to abort, freedom to have sex with anyone without guilt)
-war-mongering
-brainwashed by Christianity

Most hippies don't identify as left-wing either. They're usually apathetic or opposed to politics, or vote third party.

'left' and 'right' are sometimes difficult concepts for Americans. You can apply both socially and economically.

In the US, socially the 'right' has won. In Europe, socially 'the left' has won. But it doesn't mean that when leftist social ideals are realized (abortus, gay rights etc.) that ALL thinking is leftist.

I see this a lot on the forum, "oh they have gay rights legalized, they must be socialists", etc.



I suspect Americans (and with that many on this forum) confuse progressivism and socialism. Progressivism and capitalism can perfectly coexist. However, my impression is that Americans think progressivists must be socialists, which is not always the case.

Also Americans like declinism (why is it that Americans discuss the decline of Europe in much more pages then the decline of their own country, the US?).

The word progressive has been co-opted here in the US. Same as the terms "Pro-Choice, Undocumented, etc

Google progressive dictionary and this comes up: "favoring or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas."

Being progressive is to be for progress. The left and the jewish left love stealing words. Gay, now synonymous with homosexuals is a perfect example.

I think a lot of us on the forum are true progressives. People that want space exploration, high tech infrastructure in American cities, etc.