Quote: (07-06-2018 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (07-02-2018 03:07 AM)Batka Wrote:
Mexico has some very pressing issues to solve and Obrador must waste no time. Obviously there is the friction between Mexico and its more powerful northern neighbour, Trump's US. Many on here are saying "build the wall", but will that stop the mass migration northwards? I'm afraid it won't as desperate people will resort to desperate measures in order to better their lives to escape their "shitholes". Why are they shitholes? Well in order to get to the crux of the issue, we must look at underlying causes. Just pick up a history book to find out why. The US has for decades, directly interfered both overt and covert not to mention plunder many Latin American countries in order to keep them weak and onside. Any ruler who bucked the neo-liberal, neo-imperial trend - Allende, Arbenz, Ortega, Castro, Chavez, Sandino etc. either got taken out by a coup, assassinated or got sanctions slapped on them.
If someone starts their self-improvement journey by blaming others, then they will never improve. The idea that the US is to blame for South America's woes is laughable. The countries are fucked up because the people are fucked up. It is that simple. The USA had plenty of obstacles in its way - they overcame them and pulled itself up by its own bootstraps.
If you want to know who to blame for your problems, look in the mirror.
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Another factor that led to the mass influx was NAFTA. NAFTA, the brainchild of war criminal Bill Clinton utterly destroyed many Central American economies, Mexico included. Cheap US products flooded the markets forcing many Mexicans and others from the central American states to abandon their livelihoods, especially many peasant farmers and head north in search of work. These factors have been driving the mass migration north. The same can be said with North Africa and Europe, except the wars of aggression against Libya, Syria and Iraq which have destabalised the Middle East.
Mexico has benefited tremendously from NAFTA. Their trade balance with the USA is massive, over 100 billion a year. You're telling me NAFTA is to blame? I have to seriously question your ability to judge things if you believe this.
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If we are to halt this mass movement of people, we need to tackle the underlying problems and that means a complete sea change of policy and group-think north of the Rio Grande. Spending billions on a wall won't hold back those who are desperate to make a better life. Scrapping NAFTA will be a route in the right direction. Obrador's election is a good start to making that happen and making Mexico great again in order to stem the human tide. I wish him the best of luck. He's gonna need it, a lot of it.
Obrador is the next Hugo Chavez of Mexico. Take it to the bank. He's going to return Mexico to days of violence not seen since the Aztecs.
The only way to fix Mexico, or any other Latin American dump, is by brute force. The USA would need to militarily invade, and colonize the lands, as the Spanish once did. The current crop of people running the countries have no idea what they are doing. They need to be ruled from above for at least 2 generations before the people there can unfuck themselves.
Now why would the people of the USA want to do such an ungrateful act? Would the Mexicans, or any other South American people, appreciate such an act? Of course not. They think they know it all.
So, fuck 'em. Build the wall and wait until they are begging for salvation. I want to see massive refugee cities spring up next to the American wall, where American citizens can throw food down to the masses as acts of good charity. Once the population of these camps become around 10-20 million we can organize an army with them and conquer Mexico with their own refugees. Afterwards we can rule Mexico as a puppet state until it's functional like Germany or Japan.
That's how American needs to handle the South American morons who can't run a country to save their lives. They literally cannot do it, which is why the violence and starvation is so bad.
Invade, colonize, the people are fucked, puppet state.....
The 1850s called. They want their manifest destiny back.