Quote: (06-01-2018 12:55 PM)dtpilgrim Wrote:
Very interesting comments so far. I have a question for everyone.
I don't understand the spiritual role or place of the "Asian" people in the human universe. I am defining "Asian people" as: Mongolian (Ghenghis Khan), Turkic (original Seljuq invaders of Turkey), Thai, Vietnamese, Han Chinese, Japanese et cetera... But also Native Americans and Aztecs and Inca's and Mayans.
What I mean to say is that I don't know of any narratives where they are accounted for. For example where is the Asiatic son of Noah who populated the East in the stories? Or where is the Hindu tribe besides the Asura and the Devas that populated the East. I find that Aryan (Hindu+Western) spiritual narratives do not explain anything about the Asiatic people.
But I also don't know what the origin stories are of the Asiatic people either. Do the Chinese and the Japanese have a Great Flood myth as well? And how do the Asiatic people account for Caucasians, Africans and so on?
From my limited understanding it seems that Asians and Caucasians draw a complete blank when accounting for each other in their spiritual narratives.
According to the official theory, Europeans and East Asians are close cousins, branching off from each other roughly 20,000 years ago. I believe there was contact between certain Indo-European tribes and Asiatics as early as the 1st millenium BC. The Yuezhi definitely appear Indo-Euro, and had expanded into modern China by then.
Contact may have been earlier, as the Kurgans/Scythians/Ubaid(?) were a nomadic steppe people which could have expanded across central Asia. At one point I had mapped out all the tribes in the region at different times, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I think the Yuezhis were pushed out of the region by the Xiognu, who may have been a Turkic or Mongolic people.
From the Western side, some writers place Asiatics under the nations of Japheth, while others place them under Ham. I should also mention that the table of nations is considered pseudohistorical and not accepted by mainstream historians. Even if we are to include Asiatics in this mechanism, I think it still does not account for Southeast Asians or American Indians.
I know much less about the RgVeda, but it appears they had mapped out a few dozen different tribes. The ones which were routinely raided by the indo-aryans were called Dasa. But it's something worth reading more on to see if there was greater significance of different tribes in their pantheon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rigvedic_tribes
There are a number of flood myths in Asia/the Americas:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_(China)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_myt...lood_myths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Seletar#Legends
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temuan_peo...ood_legend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu%27u
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_flood_myths
More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths
I know this doesn't answer your question, so maybe they don't properly account for each other, or maybe their associations with each other has been hidden for whatever reason.