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(10-03-2017 01:16 AM)True Balla Wrote:  

A lot of good input here. This thread has veered sexually quite a bit and I understand that bondage is a great way to get loyalty from girls, but I was also wondering other things as well. For example, if I newly acquire an 8 for LTR material - what are the best steps to making her an ideal partner? Train sexually sure, but there's also other stuff. Do you guys introduce her to other girls that are friends of yours?, replace her social circle if they're people you don't like? ie. other girls that are slutty and a bad influence, etc.

I recently just did that with an 8, where I introduced her to one of my acquaintances so that she could be in a much better social circle than her current one. Going well so far.

To answer your question here before going on a bit of a rant...

- I don't integrate immediately into social circle. The girls in my social circle are a bit catty and defensive (mainly girls are) so it's more of a case-by-case basis. Only after 5-6 dates do I introduce properly, in a public setting as I want my girl-friends to also be a bit curious and wanting to meet this girl instead of outright being 'mean girls' about it. They will compare themselves immediately regardless. That being said, my girl-friends will know about her way before she knows about them.

- I don't replace social circles. We integrate here and there but I don't want to ruin friendships when/if we break up. It's shit when you have to cut people off when you break up with a person (this is mainly a girl thing to be honest) or avoid certain circles so don't force this. Be wary of fucking up the balance of social circles for yourself and for her.

- Influences - I let my girl know straight up who I like and who I don't like. When she asks why, I tell her. When we are out, I motion at her with my eyes when that person is doing said behaviour. The idea, example, action works for me.


On to the title and OP:


You gotta impose your frame and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

The (unfortunate) elephant in the room is that the biggest thing you can do to pull this shit off is if you live together. Then it's a whole fucking can of worms but she will change quicker than anything else.

I can tell you what I did and it worked. Gonna try and keep it non-sexual as some other fellas covered those parts.

Most importantly, pick the right girl.

She must be open minded but also submissive.

The submissive is a consequence of her pinging off your value (how many other girls want you/handsome/dominant/rich). If you ain't high status, you can't train shit.


High status + demanding it + leveraging her emotions and esteem through challenging (a bit sociopathic) = training win.


The other easy way is taking a girls virginity, that can be categorized easily.


Beginning

- discuss it in the beginning -> chicks like to talk about their ideal partners and shit, same way we envision being super rich/fit/surrounded by pussy.

They recall this shit later down the line. Tell her what you expect but frame it as a discussion, just to see where she stands. It's a reconnaissance thing.


- whatever you do, it's as normal as wiping your ass. Make it known that this is what you are used to and demand it. You want a woman who can cook? It's what you are used to, women cook for you all the time. You can do it yourself. Can she cook?

- you bring shit to the table, so let's cooperate. Can she fix that shelf? No? Thought so. For every demand, throw out some cooperation. She needs you.


- start demanding shit until she eventually says no. You will be surprised, how high a woman's threshold is for agreeing to shit is, when they are into you. Again, I am covering the non-sexual shit here.


- when she says no, do one of the following:

a) encourage her that it would be a good fit for her and how you like it when she does x y z. You are looking for a partner like that.

OR

b) make it known that other girls want you and that she has competition. If she thinks it's a bluff, introduce her to other girls or show her. Turn her scarcity into leverage


Either way, no just means not yet, I treat it as a shit test regardless.



Later on

- it's good for you and it's good for me -> BE A TEAM

You make me happy, I am happy and motivated to keep you happy.
Cook, clean, be pleasant. Frame it as a good lesson and part of growing up. If she can't do shit well, frame how it's essential she knows, for her to be a good girl and a wanted woman. If I wanted a fuck that breathes around me, I could go elsewhere.


- challenge her and don't be a pussy when she challenges you back.

Her friends can do it and she can't? Let her know (indirectly).

Bring her up. Do well and she will do well. My girl does this with me, if I am slacking in one way or another (gym/money making) she will tell me that I am being a lazy fuck and need to step up. That's fine, I know I got a homecooked meal and clean clothes waiting for me at home.


- make her want to please you through rewards. Once your high value aura fucks off, shes knows the actual filthbag you are and knows your parents well, she won't do it just because she wants to keep you around. She will do it out of affection, it being normal and wanting to please you.

Still, the 'unwrapping gifts' phase is over, so show your appreciation. I don't wanna sound like Cosmo and it's not always roses and shit, so you do the maths.

At this point, you guys should be like clockwork.


- communicate. Now this is some Cosmo shit. This is just damage control. She should be trained by now. If she ain't you have wasted your time being around her or picked a bad apprentice.

Progress never ends so keep communicating what you want her to change. Thing is, if this is 3-6 months in, you have to frame it as 'we' change.

Otherwise she will bring out her bitter side and say 'well you still do X' or 'what about when you do Y' and it just becomes a pissing contest.



Recap:

in the start:

- frame what you are entitled to and let her know that you are the one doing the choosing, not her

- let the social circle work happen naturally, she will be accepted or rejected naturally. If she gives a fuck, she will make an effort and actually change a bit (adapt to it)

- you scratch my back I scratch yours, I can do shit too baby. If I can't, I am willing to learn (because I want to be the best I can and upskill) -> you have to have this personality trait



later on:

- framing like above

- you make it known that you are leveling up for her (equity/if I do it for you, I expect the same)

- when she progresses, encourage her. At all times, make her feel good about whatever is happening. She will notice this when her friends will tell her 'omg you have changed etc.' as well as her family. shift it into a team sport and you are both progressing (in womanese: our relationship is progressing). In reality, you are pulling the strings)

- when she stagnates, communicate that with her indirectly, that you both are not progressing. If she is stubborn, speak womanese and compare her to her friends, INDIRECTLY. (in womanese: is it true that Sara can make a mean roast dinner? / wow, Jessica really lost a lot of weight huh, ) + bonus points if you can compliment her friends in front of her in a semi-flirty way and handle any kind of shit test thereafter. This is the shit women stay up at night thinking about. The motivated ones do something about the. The rest, I don't know, their asses hit the curb I suppose.


Companionship/behaviour training - Direct in the beginning as it's still flirting progressing towards indirect as it can be scarring for her esteem

Sexual training - Direct always


Appearance/health training - Indirect always, find external motivation, make it a 'we' thing. Take some of the responsibility (even though it's not yours because women's egos are too fragile to bear the whole weight of it)


There's not universal guide, but these are my own experiences.