[Peregrine]

Good discussion. I want to make it clear that when I say men should grind hard during their 20s, I don't mean at a corporate job making 80k a year. You're grinding 80 hours a week or more at a job that pays real money (which you then save most of), or you're phoning it in at a job that covers the bills while you spend your other waking hours building a business. Let loose once in awhile - like doc said, you should have enough energy to party and grind. It's not either or.

I'm working hard now specifically because I don't want to have to work at all when I'm 30.