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Libertarians think they can have their cake and eat it too, which they can't.
This forum is bananas. You can recognize this in Libertarians but cannot see it even when it's explicitly demonstrated at least twice regarding your own perspective.
In the drugs thread, you claim that because drugs "harm the community," any means necessary are justified to combat the issue. Then you have another poster claim that (1) his community is not harmed by pot, (2) your statement is a "declaration of war" against his community. Thus, we see that your claims to superiority based on "outcomes" result exactly in a tension that threatens to cause chaos and destruction (both of you literally start threatening each other with implied violence for not accepting the other view).
In the same thread, you have another poster stating that he perceives promiscuity and adultery as responsible for much "harm to the community" and (while you do not even disagree with this premise, rather you state it's an absurd thing to say on RvF) start calling him a Muslim sympathizer and literally ask him to "come to Jesus." Thus we see your claims to superiority based on "outcomes" result exactly in tension when other community members perceive the sources of primary threats differently than you.
edit: In other words, your own view is nothing more than your particular Liberal preferences masquerading as some appeal to "the community" or "patriarchy." You claim that your view is cohesive based on "outcomes over principles" even when your thought is met with hostility in a community that is almost assuredly more similar to yourself than the general population. Which is extremely funny considering you are supposedly against the outcome of Libertarianism which you see as the anarchy of a bunch "big man" power trippers battling each other.
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Then guys like me waste inordinate amounts of time trying to untangle the twisted mental premises that lead to these kind of contradictions
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I get no sense whatsoever that you have even the faintest foundation beneath the patchwork system of politics and morality that drive you, and I've no interest in engaging in the thankless and impossible task of ordering your fractured world view.
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And anarchists are decidedly less feminine than libertarians. At least they're honest in their mind's eye that survival of the fittest is what they'll end up with, with all its implications.
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Libertarians think they can have their cake and eat it too, which they can't.
are projections of the highest order. You haven't "untangled" anything. You clearly aren't capable of that. You've actually just further obscured the sources of the disorder and made things more subterranean and difficult for yourself.
Do you consider yourself a "reactionary" trying to "restore/redeem" the West. If so, your condition largely stems from something approaching, if not outright appearing to be a Messianic complex.
The alternative perspective being: