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Next Global Elite Plan: Universal Basic Income (UBI)
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Next Global Elite Plan: Universal Basic Income (UBI)

I worked in the field of industrial digitalisation. They say in the future 18 to 40 % will redundant in Germany for example and the remaining ones demand a higher skill. You see it already in the lower education classes where jobs are outsourced to cheaper countries. Productivity rise and rise and technology in the last 50 years did improve faster then in the 500 years before. Exponential grow is not made up in our brain. I don't share the idea that all jobs are redundant, but a strong industrial country like Germany can be able to produce lot size 1 by digital automation. Just assume 18 % of the now working population is redundant. What to do with all those people?
Put them on the fight for survive on the last remaining jobs and call them low performers? The idea of UBI brings together two different views of mankind. One say, all people are lazy and need control and some push to improve. If not they just become lazy social welfare suckers. The other one say, yes a few will always be lazy but most people want to do something in their life and maybe it something different then a boring job but they can't because they need the money.

When robots and machines do the production and responsible for productivity, why not tax them? Now you tax the workers. What means by the tax system, less money to spend for the workers and in Germany, high social cost for the employers. The profit of companies rise but not the wages. Now the state give away social welfare money and all the bureaucratic system need resources as well. When you give every citizen at a certain age it reduce those cost. Of course some will ask, how does it work but it depends on the calculation. Some say UBI will never work, others day different. They use different ways of calculation because its all theoretical, there is no practical experience.

For me, thats he future. With the freedom people gain, the natural desire for rise social, improve and so on will not vanish. The new system has to educate the people to use their potential and the jobs that are still in demand will gain higher social status and will bring you also more money. It will mostly only work in high developed societies that have a high rate of industrial production. When a society is not very productive or is more based on a service society, they will have problems to finance it. Tax productivity and cut all other social welfare programs. Also the production of goods will be a way cheaper and more people have money with UBI that they can spend. In the long run, with less work for everyone, its the only solution if you don't want to have fights and wars about distribution of the few jobs and resources. It all has to come with a certain education that promote self improvement and give the remaining jobs a high social status.
A few years back I read a book To have or to Be? from Erich Fromm. He did ask the question and had no answer. When people have to work, they are always relay on the jobs to live. If they don't need to work, how to they fill their life with purpose? Work helps to improve, let lazy people get up in the morning and competition is necessary. Still to much competition where most people will lose will destroy a society as well.

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For us, these conflicts can be resolved by appeal to the deeply ingrained higher principle embodied in the law, that individuals have the right (within defined limits) to choose how to live. But this Western notion of individualism and tolerance is by no means a conception in all cultures. - Theodore Dalrymple
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