Quote: (08-16-2016 10:52 AM)weambulance Wrote:
Quote: (08-16-2016 04:34 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
Quote: (08-15-2016 07:20 PM)weambulance Wrote:
Mormon girls seem like good prospects, but they're fundamentally damaged by the mind fucking their religion gives them. Ex mormon girls are as well, just in a different way, and they bring a lot of the same family baggage practicing mormon girls have as well.
Look into how incredibly involved mormons are in their church, consider the expectations placed on mormons by their community (it's a fucking shitload of time commitment and money), and think about the stress it's going to bring on your mormon wife if people are constantly wondering why her husband is not part of the community. I've seen it. It's not pretty. It is very stressful on all members of the family, including the kids.
As I've said before in various places on this forum, mormons, while generally nice, law abiding, productive people who make good allies, should absolutely be viewed as a separate insular tribe by the rest of us. I assure you they view the rest of us as outsiders, and we're never going to be anything but outsiders unless we convert.
You want to get seriously, formally involved with a mormon, you'd better plan on converting and abiding by the rules. Otherwise, you're inviting a lot of trouble and pain.
Just my opinion, based on my fairly extensive experience with mormons, dating ex mormons with still practicing family members, and seriously investigating a long term relationship with a nice mormon girl a couple years ago when I was wife hunting.
It was pretty annoying coming to these conclusions, though. The vast majority of women I've met in the last decade that I thought were clear wife material were mormons. The rest were rural small town girls, and I've never found a reliable way of meeting them before they get corrupted or married without actively going hunting on the road.
What do you expect? You want all of the trappings of chastisty, good wife material, and the framework of a Christian marriage without actually being in the community?
I hate to break it to you, but even in the 1950s if you wanted to marry a good Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, Mormon, etc the girls and their parents expected you to be part of that denomination's community and believe what the community believes. They can smell lip servers a mile away so don't even try.
Women are water and take the shape of the community they're in. Christian communities are 100% the reason why these women are marriagable material and continue to stay in their marriages once they tie the knot.
If you want to get married and have the benefits of operating in a Christian marriage framework you have to drink the kool-aid and believe it. Otherwise your relationship and marriage will fail, not because the wife wanted to "experiment" or some nonesense but because you weren't able to live up to the expectations required of you by the Bible. There's more to it than just showing up.
On a side note, this is also the reason why women from traditional cultures lose their "traditionalness" and get westernized. The men importing them into the west don't put them into social groups that keep them on the straight and steady. They'll shower these women in luxury, take them on stupidly expensive vacations, and give them an Amex platinum card for the mall. No wonder these women go crazy!
If you marry a traditional women, taking her to a good traditional church (no gays, no female clergy) will keep her in the marriage. She'll make friends with other women who are family centric. Finally, keep the trappings of wealth modest, control the purse strings, and follow game 101.
My biggest red flag is a women who yearns for expensive things and tries to coyly get me to enable her to get them. A woman like this is not marriage material.
Does this all work 100%? No, nothing is certain but you can mitigate these chances by keeping expectations moderate and by putting yourself and her into boring middle of the road social groups.
Marriage is about building families, not about being fast and glitzy.
If you're getting married, the last place you should be looking at is nightlife.
I guess you made a bunch of incorrect assumptions about what I meant, but okay.
Mormonism isn't just another branch of Christianity. It's a whole 'nother ball of wax. And that was what I was attempting to get across.
And no, if I marry a woman I do not intend to let her community take over my whole freaking life, which is exactly what happens when you become an active member of the mormon church. She can join my community, thank you very much.
My bad bud, i was speaking to the whole group.
Regardless, if you want a chaste, christian, family oriented virgin, you need to be apart of a group that promotes those values and believe what their group speaks or invite her to a similar group with near identical values.
Just make sure your community matches up with what she's used to mores and values wise and you'll be fine.