Quote: (08-15-2015 11:33 PM)zanetti Wrote:
Quote: (08-15-2015 06:49 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:
Quote: (08-15-2015 08:35 AM)zanetti Wrote:
Quote: (08-15-2015 06:46 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
Secondly, we're a lifestyle forum. Why don't you improve yourself first and then go do some traveling? If you can't get women in your home country you won't do better in another.
I know plenty of guys that get 0.0% action in their home country (the anglo sphere) but do quite alright abroad with ok looking (non prozzy) girls in other regions, e.g. LatAm, SE/E Asia.
Having said that, self improvement is an awesome thing to do of course whether it's to do with health/finance/socially/game
When you get a chance could you expand on that? How come they are doing so badly on home turf and then having a complete 180 of fortune and doing good abroad? I'm intrigued by that and the style of game they are using!
Sure thing. I'm talking about the UK here by the by. I know several guys, that I've known for a number of years, that are incel on their home turf. There is nothing wrong with these guys; all are between 25-35 y/o, above average intelligence (at least 1 university degree), earning good money (mostly in professional services/finance type jobs), looks wise slightly above average (none are fat); the only negative might be that they are not the most outgoing/alpha/loud guys around but they're not rainman either; they're just sort of normal, fairly sociable, can have small-talk etc but they're just not the centre of the party or have amazing charisma/sense of humour.
The reason why they're getting zero love at home, I think is because to girls they are "boring nice guys".
However, bring these guys over to certain parts of Asia and LatAm and all of a sudden they do get results with okayish girls. And I'm not talking about bottom of the barrel girls in Phils, Thailand or Peru. These are cuteish girls from China, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Brazil etc that come from middle class backgrounds.
Why they're having more success abroad? In some countries being a normal nice guy isn't a negative; they are intelligent, have money (not rich but are well off); fact that they're white probably also helps in some of those countries.
Yes, I can well believe this. I've been incel for the past year and a half in the UK, despite having approached easily over 100 women in a variety of contexts, from cold street approach to social circle game. The main problem I've encountered is that women in the 30-40 age bracket are nearly always taken and the ones that aren't are usually single for a good reason, with personality issues predominating. Both of my neighbours, incidentally, are incel and one of them went through a phase a few years back of trashing his house regularly out of frustration over this. At one of the meetup groups I go to in my area dedicated to discussing philosophical questions, I know two guys similar to the ones you describe who've also confided in me that they are at an utter loss as to how to get a woman in the UK - both are in good shape physically, well-educated and one of them is even earning decent dough as a lecturer. They are typical "nice guys", reflective and considerate of others, sociable but who have both come out of long-term relationships recently and now find the sexual market place to have changed into a jungle that they just can't navigate. Furthermore, neither of these guys is holding out for a Claudia Schiffer - they would be more than delighted with a regular Plain Jane who is not morbidly obese, but it seems to me that in the UK average women are now becoming a luxury item that an increasing percentage of the male population just can't afford.