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(06-27-2018 03:56 AM)Stonk Wrote:  

In reality, its very difficult to tell when a person is lying — especially a professional. But some obvious tells are face touching, defensive positions like arm crossing, strong gaze to convince you, increased pitch/tonality.

Also look out for extremities.

Is the persons volume too low or two high?
Is their gaze too strong or too weak?
Do they avoid face touching completely or touch their face excessively?

Like CH noted, Cinstrast is King.

This is a very deep topic, and there are no easy answers.

I dug into it a few years ago, and came away thinking that lie detection is less a skill and more along the lines of a trade in that it takes many years of study and practice to develop the talent.

More than I was willing to put in, anyway.

A good place to start is Paul Ekman's research on "Truth Wizards."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizards_Project

Funnily enough, the people who are best at detecting lies are not the ones you might think:

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O'Sullivan and Ekman[2] identified only 50 people as Truth Wizards after testing 20,000 (~0.25%)[3] from all walks of life, including the Secret Service, FBI, sheriffs, police, attorneys, arbitrators, psychologists, students, and many others. Surprisingly,[citation needed] while psychiatrists and law enforcement personnel showed no more aptitude than college freshmen, Secret Service agents were the most skilled.

For a while I followed a blog of a woman who was tested by Ekman and company and determined to be a truth wizard:

I'm a Truth Wizard

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Dr. O’Sullivan has tested over 15,000 people for her study, and has found 46 wizards to date. With that, I’m wizard 46.

So, what does being a wizard actually mean? It means I see most kinds of lies accurately at least 80% of the time (I’m not flawless as I have said before.), whereas the normal person is only as good as a coin-toss in spotting deception.

If you are interested in studying this stuff, check out the early posts of her blog. I have to admit that of late, she has become an anti-Trump SJW nightmare, and fairly deceptive herself, not in her truth ferreting abilities, but in the video clips she chooses to study, and the conclusions she draws from them.

Still, her early blog posts were filled with the nuts and bolts of how she perceives the world differently from the rest of us. It was good reading because she was still pretty humble, and didn't really know what made her different from average people, so the blog was a slow discovery and explanation of exactly what her gifts were.

Later she got cocky and dismissive and this work became paid work, and her attitude is basically insufferable.

Sticking to the early stuff still has value.

I am less acquainted with the work of this guy, but if you want to hear this stuff from a masculine perspective, here is another truth wizard who has a site.

http://www.iainterviewing.com/home.html

This is the dude:

http://www.iainterviewing.com/home.html#instructor1

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J.J. Newberry was a Senior Special Agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for 27 years, retiring with 30 years federal service. During that time he spent 2 years deep cover with the Organize Crime Strike Force and a number of other shorter undercover assignments. He made a reputation as a bomb and arson investigator, he worked a number of international firearms trafficking cases with success as well. His last 4 years with ATF he served as the San Francisco Field Divisions Intelligence Officer. He was the ATF Case Agent on a number of high profile cases such as the Black Panthers, SLA, The Mormon Bombings, and the Chinese International Firearms Smuggling Investigation.

J.J. had a dual career as a Military Intelligence Officer with the US Army Reserve having served 22 years and retiring as a Major.

J.J. is part of an elite group of individuals known as the Wizards. Through the research of Dr. Maureen O’Sullivan and Dr. Paul Ekman, Wizards have been identified as individuals with an exceptional skill at detecting deception. Rigorous scientific testing of over thirty thousand people discovered only 50 such Wizards of which only 10 have a consistent hit rate over 90% accuracy rating. J.J. is number 1.

This is a fascinating topic, and anyone who wants to spend some time tracking down information will have a lot of fun reading ahead of them.

There are many many body language experts on the internet, many of them self identified experts, and there is a lot of time to waste with bullshit, so these folks, the truth wizards, are the result of a scientific investigation, and are a good place to start.