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The Ultimate Martial Arts/Combat Sports/Boxing Thread
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The Ultimate Martial Arts/Combat Sports/Boxing Thread

Quote: (08-26-2015 01:17 PM)lowbudgetballer Wrote:  

Quote: (08-03-2015 03:21 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

Question here: why would you do Judo if you can do Jujutsu? From what I understand Jujutsu has the best grappling stuff of Judo (Judo comes from Jujutsu) while still incorporate tons of useful stuff like kick, punch, joint manipulation. That should be a much better combination.

Oldstyle judo--i.e. 70s judo--remained closer it its jujutsu roots and contained and regularly trained striking, grappling, and groundwork and featured randori (essentially live wrestling). Sports schools threw this out and tend to focus on winning competition based on the current, usually Olympic, rules. That's why Rousey armlocks so fast. Brazilian Jujutsu focuses on groundwork and features randori, but lacks striking and throws. Traditional Jujutsu features all three ranges but lacks randori.

You don't usually find non-BJJ jujustu schools, but the closest thing is aikido. Good aikido schools feature randori and require judo and even karate certification to reach higher levels. Aikido wasn't even intended to be practiced until you have ten years in karate, judo, or both.

'baller

Judo is a great skill to have BUT… A big reason that Rousey arm locks so fast however is her level of competition. MMA has had the likes of Olympic Gold Medallist Satoshii Ishii in the heavyweight division and he went nowhere.

Unless you have the ability to effectively cut distance Judo cannot come into play.

In the case of Rousey; Her competition is so low [As is Rousey's other skill sets outside Judo] that she can move forward in a straight line [Rookie error], plant her feet square and swing [Another rookie error], her opponents do the same, she grabs an arm and finishes the fight.

In mens MMA you get KO'd. A fighter in the elite level of the mens division will require feints, solid boxing, level changes and the ability to cut angles to land a takedown or get to the clinch. If he was to move straight forward he would get jabbed into a bloody mess or KO'd in a heartbeat.
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