Sup guys,
I was wondering what your thoughts are on body language and game.
Let me explain...
I work in sales, at one of the top retailers in the world. Daily I intreact with hundreds of people.
After reading the book The Definitive Book of Body Language (highly informative but also cheesy), I can't seem to stop trying to read people's body langauge.
Lately what's got me going is interpreting the cross armed gestures of males (closed), and the tilted head, exposed neck gestures of females (open).
This is a fun experience since I like the subtext and covert nature of body language, but at times it seems a bit...obsessive, like I'm reading every cue, hanging onto any gesture or movement, trying to decipher it all.
But I wonder if it's because I have entered a new depth of reality, and the rawness of interacting with the grimy subtext of body language is something I have yet to acclimate to. I could imagine there will be a day where this obsessive reading of body language becomes a part of who I am naturally and I will give less of a fuck, and it will just...be.
I wonder, also, what you guys' experience are with body language... Do you (or can you) read it? If so, what are your thoughts on the matter?
Also, to the experienced guys with game out there, what would some of your tips be to the man who wants to learn more about body language -- any books, insights, challenges, words of wisdom? I mean we all know the basics, right, like not leaning in, not smiling too much, kino, alpha posturing, etc, but I think there is a subtle undercurrent that eludes us when these topics are discussed in the manosphere. Mostly I find people gloss over them.
Even with the lack of literature aside, though, I think guys that are good at game have a solid grasp on the concepts of body language, even if on a primal, unconscious level. I'm curious to hear what you experienced guys have to say on the matter.
If I were to offer a tip myself to guys out there who are new to learning about body language, it would be to not ingest too much information at one time. Well, maybe you have a higher IQ than me and can handle it. But I found that it was information overload to read and decipher every little cue or gesture.
The process became easier for me as I chose to integrate the knowledge slowly, one gesture at a time.
My next tip would be to not try so hard. When I was trying really hard to read people's body language I would find myself getting lost in my head and not in the present, living and interacting with those around me.
My last tip would be that you really don't know, and won't ever know, you can only guess. I found some piece in letting go of my lack of knowing the absolute truth. Since I've adopted this belief I've stopped taking the reading of body language so seriously and am able to enjoy it for what it is a bit moreso than before.
Anyway, enough rambling, I'm curious to hear what you guys think
I was wondering what your thoughts are on body language and game.
Let me explain...
I work in sales, at one of the top retailers in the world. Daily I intreact with hundreds of people.
After reading the book The Definitive Book of Body Language (highly informative but also cheesy), I can't seem to stop trying to read people's body langauge.
Lately what's got me going is interpreting the cross armed gestures of males (closed), and the tilted head, exposed neck gestures of females (open).
This is a fun experience since I like the subtext and covert nature of body language, but at times it seems a bit...obsessive, like I'm reading every cue, hanging onto any gesture or movement, trying to decipher it all.
But I wonder if it's because I have entered a new depth of reality, and the rawness of interacting with the grimy subtext of body language is something I have yet to acclimate to. I could imagine there will be a day where this obsessive reading of body language becomes a part of who I am naturally and I will give less of a fuck, and it will just...be.
I wonder, also, what you guys' experience are with body language... Do you (or can you) read it? If so, what are your thoughts on the matter?
Also, to the experienced guys with game out there, what would some of your tips be to the man who wants to learn more about body language -- any books, insights, challenges, words of wisdom? I mean we all know the basics, right, like not leaning in, not smiling too much, kino, alpha posturing, etc, but I think there is a subtle undercurrent that eludes us when these topics are discussed in the manosphere. Mostly I find people gloss over them.
Even with the lack of literature aside, though, I think guys that are good at game have a solid grasp on the concepts of body language, even if on a primal, unconscious level. I'm curious to hear what you experienced guys have to say on the matter.
If I were to offer a tip myself to guys out there who are new to learning about body language, it would be to not ingest too much information at one time. Well, maybe you have a higher IQ than me and can handle it. But I found that it was information overload to read and decipher every little cue or gesture.
The process became easier for me as I chose to integrate the knowledge slowly, one gesture at a time.
My next tip would be to not try so hard. When I was trying really hard to read people's body language I would find myself getting lost in my head and not in the present, living and interacting with those around me.
My last tip would be that you really don't know, and won't ever know, you can only guess. I found some piece in letting go of my lack of knowing the absolute truth. Since I've adopted this belief I've stopped taking the reading of body language so seriously and am able to enjoy it for what it is a bit moreso than before.
Anyway, enough rambling, I'm curious to hear what you guys think