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SONORA MEXICO











Sup homies, hows it going?

I just got back from Hermosillo, Sonora after spending the holidays down there. I met a buddy of mine in Phoenix who is from Hermosillo and he invited me to go down there and so we decided to drive. This report will mainly cover the city of Hermosillo which was where I stayed.


HERMOSILLO

Hermosillo has a population of about 700,000 people, a mid-size city right in the heart of the state of Sonora just a few hours away from the Arizona border. One thing to note is that its brutally hot here, which mainly has to do with the state being mostly a desert. If anybody has been to Arizona or Nevada, its similar to that. I can't imagine going there in the summer.

Where to Stay:

I stayed at the center of Hermosillo, also known as "centro". There are many cheap hotels to choose from like Hotel Colonial which is where I stayed, Fiesta Inn Hermosillo which is a chain hotel in Northern Mexico and Hotel Lucerna. Aside from that, you aren't going to find much. Hermosillo is not really a tourist destination spot so lodging is limited. Fiesta Inn is the best option imo since its right in the center of the city.


Getting Around:

Taxis are the best source of transportation. They are quite cheap and affordable. I actually befriended a taxi guy and he took me everywhere I wanted. They also have rental agencies with good deals or if you're brave enough to take the buses which I did as well.

Food

Sonora being a coastal state has a variety of seafood restaurants. I mean its Mexico so you won't really have a bad meal here if you know what you're getting. A place I really liked was "El Dorado." If you do come here get the "parrillada" which is essentially chicken fajitas grilled on a plate with skirt steak and different cuts of beef. Very recommended.

Another thing that stood out which gave me the runs was a thing called the Sonoran Hot Dog or "hot dog estilo Sonora." Apparently the American hot dog made its way into Sonora after World War Two and the people in Sonora basically Mexicanized it. Its a hot dog wrapped in bacon, put into a bun, topped with pinto beans, shredded Chihuahua cheese, guacamole, onions, tomatoes, jalapenos, mustard, ketchup, Mexican salsa and mayonnaise. Its a heart-attack waiting to happen. I ate two of these motherfuckers and landed in the hospital with the shits where I eventually met a cute nurse. More on that story later, but you can find Sonoran Hot Dogs anywhere in Hermosillo.



^^^ Not recommended if you are watching the weight. But tasty indeed.


Girls


^^^My buddy's sisters/cousins/second cousins/friends at the mall. I tried getting at the one on the top second to the right on top of the girl with the red shirt. I was really close until I realized later that she was married.


Alright, now on to the meat of this thread. The girls from Hermosillo are similar to what you will see in Sinaloa. Sinaloa is basically Sonora's cousin state and both states like to compete and brag about which state has the best women. You will see girls from all shapes and sizes from light skinned with big asses to more darker skinned with flat asses and vice-versa. It will be similar to what you see in Monterrey and virtually all of Northern Mexico. Hermosillo has some of the most feminine girls I have ever encountered. They love to dress up, wear high heels, and watch novelas all day fantasizing about their prince charming. Here are some of the chicks I was messing with.



^^^Met this one working at a bank in centro. Was very shy about my approach as she was trying to concentrate counting my money while I was talking to her, asked her out on a date, but told her that I had no clue about where to go out in Hermosillo since I was not from there. She suggested a rodeo dance outside the city because she didn't want to go by herself and she wanted to go, which was fine by me. Ended up having a good night dancing and of course fucking.








^^^ A nurse I met at the hospital actually. In my first day on the ground, my boy took me to a local hot dog stand to try out some of the Sonoran dogs he kept raving about so I tried them and loved them right away, so much so that I ate two of the large ones. Later on that night I had massive diarrhea that wouldn't stop and a huge fever. No clinics were open so I went to the local hospital in Hermosillo to have them check it out. Not exactly the place I wanted to spend my first day in Hermosillo. The doctor concluded that I had to stay overnight because I had lost so much fluid from my body (probably BS to try to get me out of some money). Regardless I was the youngest person in the hospital and was attracting attention from the nurses around. I know they were excited to have a young pocho (Mexican American) stay the night. A lot of them were laughing at the reason as to why I was there.

During the night, I met a cute nurse with a nice ass and me and her were talking and clicked right away. She asked me where I was from and what I liked to do and what the hell was I doing in Hermosillo, in which I simply responded with "business." We were flirting all night with each other and even brought me some breakfast from a nearby store. In some areas in Mexico, hospitals don't provide food to patients, you have to have someone buy it for you and bring it to you. I asked her for her number as I was getting ready to leave the hospital and she said yes.

Anyway I ended up taking her to a rodeo dance and a stroll around the city and made her my girl for the majority of my stay. I must admit, I don't know what happened to me, but the beta demon possessed me during my trip because I was falling for this chick hard! The girl would cook meals for me every now and then, washed my clothes only after I paid her the soap, went to great lengths to steal some medicine from the hospital to give to me and would make remedies for me like honey and tea when I had a sore throat. I didn't want to leave, but I had to because obviously it would require me to stay over in Mexico for a chick which was something I didn't want to do. Like 20Nation has said, you have to have the heart of a player. Before I left she gave me a pair of her earrings and a thong to "Remember her by" she said. I'm probably never going to see her again but it was a cool experience nonetheless. One of the coolest chicks I have ever met in my life. I'm yet to find a girl in America to do all of those things in the time span of three weeks.




^^^^ Another cute chick I met in the city working at a market. Was extremely shy to my approach and very nervous, her faced turned red with my opener. Extremely nice, feminine as hell. Cool chick.

Man, there is some stunning girls in Sonora. Of course, like in all over Mexico, you are going to have your ugly girls and your pretty ones but I saw many fine ass girls all over Hermosillo. I did better here in terms of game than anywhere else in Mexico, maybe cause my game wasn't as good back then. Because of discrimination, the browner, darker skinned girls will be a little more easier, but you will still need game. Anyway I came away surprised with the girls here and I recommended if any of you are around in Monterrey or Tijuana somewhere.

Day Game

I mostly went to the Galerias Mall for gaming. You get a lot of the middle class and upper class girls who go shop, weekends is the most packed. I also enjoyed approaching girls in the Plaza and main strip. I like going from store to store, and approach. I have a blast doing it. A lot of the girls here are very open to direct game I found. I know the forum is more pro indirect because by being direct you're complementing the girl and inflating her ego, but I found the exact opposite in Hermosillo. Girls here blush or get shy when you go direct which I love. I can't count the times where I would open with

"Te me hiciste guapa y vine a conocerte"

Only to blush and get red and shy. They love it.

There was a time where my opener whenever I walked into a small business with a cute girl I would say

"I'm here to buy some underwear, where can I find them?" I kid you not, one chick went out of her way to find one and she gave me a new boxer from her dad's box. I later told her that I was kidding, and that I just wanted to talk to her, but she said I could have it . I ended up getting that girl's number too.

All in all, I had success Day Gaming and its a great way to ultimately get notches here. I'm more of a Day gaming type of guy in general anyway.


Nightlife

Hermosillo has ok nightlife. Its not the greatest but its not the worst either. In this part of the country, nightlife revolves around going to a rodeo and Mexican Banda dances and getting wasted, but there are some bars and clubs worth checking out.

Tabu

Located near Galerias Mall. Its a sushi place by day and a martini lounge by night. I only came here one time and didn't like it too much. It was loud, and hot. There were lots of the upper class girls from Hermosillo. It felt a little cliquey. It just wasn't for me.

Vintage

This place seemed better. Mostly university students from the Universidad de Sonora. Typical generic nightclub. Dress to impress, no flip flops here.

Olympus

My favorite spot. Its a two story bar with no rooftop, pretty easy to game in. Lots of girls from all over the city go here. I had a girl I was talking to but didn't get the notch because I was with my boy who had no game whatsoever.

Here's a video to get an idea what it looks like

My experience with a narco

I had a very scary experience with a narco in Hermosillo. I found out later on in the trip that my friend works for the Sinaloa cartel, and was cursing him for not telling me as I witnessed a deal of marijuana being made right before my eyes. I was essentially cocked blocked by a narco too.

So me and my boy went to a bar, I forgot the name of it, but its a type of dance bar where you can actually take your own alcohol. My buddy had setup to meet 3 girls there and we brought our own beer. Once at the bar there was a group of girls and a few guys who I had no idea who they were. My friend was there with them and they were the girls we were setup to meet. Me as usual, I introduced myself to the girl I liked and started chatting her up. After an hour or so of talking with this girl, I asked her if I could have a beer from the cooler next to her, and she said sure. I took a beer from a cooler and started to drink it. No more than minute later a guy takes the beer off my hand and smashes it on the floor. I confronted him and said "what the fuck is your problem?" My boy and the girls pulled me aside and said "Did you get him mad?" I said no and demanded to know who the fuck that guy was, my friend then comes to me and whispers in my ear and tells me "he works for the Sinaloa Cartel, just apologize to him." I thought to myself, "Really?!" So I go and apologize to the guy for taking his beer, even though it was the chick who said it was ok to take it. We shake it out and that was that. At that point, I wanted to get the hell out of there.

No more than 20 minutes later, my friend wants me to go in the narco's car to get him a hit of coke and he wanted me to go with him. I refused and said "FUCKKKK NOOOO", but he made me feel guilty because he was my friend and he has done favors for me before. So then I complied. We get into a hummer with the girls and the narco, all while the narco is talking in his walkie talkie, I'm thinking to myself when will this ride be over. We come into this shady house way outside Hermosillo and in the house come out no more than 6 dudes with AK-47's. I look at my friend and he looks at me and tells me to relax. I go inside to the house with my friend, and as I was walking into the house, I was already trying to plan an escape in my head. I was thinking maybe grab a knife and walk behind one of those guys with the AK's and slit his throat and grab his gun to shoot the rest? My mind was racing at that moment. I was cursing my friend in my mind the whole way for bringing me along with him. Inside, he not only gets handed some coke, but is given at least 3 blocks of marijuana. I then tell my friend to go and that I wanted no part in some international marijuana deal. The narcos just laugh it off and offer me a beer, which I refused. My friend tells them that I'm from Chicago and doesn't know better. They surprisingly just leave me alone, once done with the "deal" they don't drive us back and tell us to catch a cab. So I'm right in the middle of nowhere in the countryside in Sonora with my friend who has a whole bunch of weed with him. I wanted to be nowhere near him and I walk to the nearest street and take a cab myself back to the hotel. I ditched him and didn't care, I was so pissed that day.

My friendship with him still goes on as we settled our differences and moved on from it. But it was just a bad experience at the time. I coudn't believe that all this time I had a friend who worked with a cartel in Mexico. What a pity.


Online game:

I never really have success with online game at all. Maybe the fact that I look like the people there has something to do with it, but most girls who I setup a date with through online flaked. Either they were busy or they ignored my texts. I think maybe a white guy, black guy or an Asian guy will have better success here since they stand out in sites like Badoo for instance.

Competition/Gringo status:

In terms of hooking up, I give Hermosillo a 3/5. You can get laid, but you are going to need game and work at it. Hispanic guys can rely on their Spanglish to make it known that you aren't a local. That is what I did, I would always speak Spanglish when I gamed to make it known to the girl that I'm from the U.S. and not some random guy from Hermosillo. All other races will have a slight edge, but of course you will need game. I did not see a single Black guy, white guy or Asian guy. I did see lots of Mexican Americans though but that's about it.


Safety:

Even with the isolated incident that occurred to me with the narcos, Hermosillo is still pretty much safe. I never felt unsafe at all anywhere in the city. Just exercise caution like in any other city in Latin America and you'll be fine. Even with this, like I do in all my Mexico threads, here is a warning from the US Department of State warning travel to Sonora:

Quote:

Sonora is a key region in the international drug and human trafficking trades and can be extremely dangerous for travelers. Travelers throughout Sonora are encouraged to limit travel to main roads during daylight hours. The region west of Nogales, east of Sonoyta, and from Caborca north, including the towns of Saric, Tubutama, and Altar, and the eastern edge of Sonora bordering Chihuahua, are known centers of illegal activity, and non-essential travel between these cities should be avoided. Travelers should also defer non-essential travel to the eastern edge of the state of Sonora, which borders the state of Chihuahua (all points along that border east of the northern city of Agua Prieta and the southern town of Alamos), and defer non-essential travel within the city of Ciudad Obregon and south of the city of Navojoa.

^^^^^ No mention of Hermosillo. Again, just exercise caution.


Overall Impressions

I loved it. I love traveling around Mexico to places where most people don't go to. Mexico to me is two countries within itself. One country being Mexico City, Cancun, and Guadalajara and the remaining of Mexico being the other country. I met some beautiful women, had some good food, and had crazy experiences. Although the city is good for women and food, Hermosillo can get boring very quickly if you're not gaming or having girls on the regular. Aside from the mall or the few bars and clubs, there is really not much to do. If you don't care about boredom then go check out Hermosillo, in terms of women you won't be disappointed.





INTRODUCTION TO MEXICAN BANDA MUSIC

I wanted to share with you guys a type of genre that has always been so dear to me. Dancing this type of music has gotten me laid in Mexico and in the U.S. in Mexican communities. Before I knew any kind of game or red-pill thinking, this has been an alternative. Northern Mexican girls love to dance and expect men to know it and to be good at it. If you don't know how to dance, family members would shun you and shame you for it. Its practically a religion for Northern Mexicans.

I'm very sure that probably none of you will dance this to get Mexican women, but fuck it, my thread.

What is Banda Music? Its essentially a mixture of both German Polka and Mexican mariachi music. During the late 1890s, German immigrants who didn't make it to Ellis Island, made their way to northern Mexico. Where do you think the stereotype of the drunk Mexican who yells and sings while drunk came from? It came from the Germans.

So you take German Polka like this

And you mix it with a mariachi dance like this:



You get this:

^^^ Banda Music is heard and danced in Sinaloa, Sonora, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Nuevo Leon, you name it, all over northern Mexico by the lower and middle class, including a good portion of the upper class (even if they won't admit it, but they know the basics). The elite in Mexico despise it and criticize it as they see it as a dance that caters to the "ignorant" or in other words opium for the poor if you will. The reality is that a large portion of the population love it, and dance it, poor or rich. The gentleman in the video is Valentin Elizalde and is one of my favorite Banda performers, I learned by mimicking his moves as a teenager to get the dance right, I tried to mimic his posture and body language, a true alpha who would get bitches everywhere he went in his concerts, and would dance with his fans. If his fan were fat or ugly he would only dance with them for about 5 seconds and move on to the next. His life ended when he was brutally executed by the Zetas, rumors say he was involved with drug trafficking.


If you live in the United States, especially where there are lots of Mexicans like in California, Texas, Illinois, the Southwest. You more than likely have come across hearing this type of music. To non Mexicans, the music can be annoying. I once recall a friend referring to it as clown music, and another friend calling it circus music. My dad would always play it aloud in our home, only to have neighbors call the cops on us to keep it down. Its understandable, Although Northern Mexicans themselves gather and applaud these Banda performances with passion, non-Mexican folks seem to avoid them with equal passion. The music is very loud and brassy and the driving percussion is sometimes quite demanding. The ferocity of brass playing and the dissonance of intonation and tuning is sometimes quite unnerving to unsuspecting ears. As a result, Mexican Banda music seems to be an uncomfortably acquired taste for people foreign to the culture.


How to dance:

Me being the son of a Zacatecan immigrant, my dad would not let me go down to Mexico until I knew how to dance banda. I would kick and scream, but my dad stuck to his guns and demanded I learned and I thanked him for it, because it has gotten me laid to no end. If you're good looking and adopt this dance, you will kill with the Mexican girls, no way to slice it. Banda represents macho Mexican culture where the woman follows the man's lead always. Its a chance to completely meet a hot woman and quickly skip into kino and touch her. Here are some steps in learning how to dance Banda.

1) Grab your partner in a close embrace and put your right arm around her waist. If you are a leftie, you still put your right arm around her waist. Grab her hand with your left hand. Hold her tightly, because you will move together across the dance floor.

2) Listen to the song being played. Find the heavy pulsing percussion that is being played out by the big tambora, a heavy drum that has a cymbal attached to it. When it is struck the cymbal also sounds. Banda percussion is hard and fast and should be easy to locate.

3) Alternate your steps in time with the percussion of the banda music. Holding the girl close, slightly jump back and forth from one foot to another, making sure she is following you on the opposite foot like a mirror image.

4) Turn in circles as you dance, keeping the embrace tight and the movements in time with the music. In banda music, dancers turn about in place as they move across the dance floor, turning first to one side and then to another. The man leads the turns from the woman's waist, bringing her around in from of him as he turns to the left or right. Couples dance forward and backward and from side to side, but the man usually stays in the center of the turns, and the female dances around him.

5) Kick your leg out to the side with each step, adding flair to your banda dancing. Do this to the rhythm, kicking only when there is a beat to be accentuated by the kick.

6) Move your hips from side to side as you dance. Stay in sync with your partner's hips and the music, using your hip movements to keep time to the music as you dance.

Here are some dance videos

^^^^The point is to put your leg in between her legs like in minute 1:58 so she could feel your leg slightly grinding on her crotch. If you want you're leg to rub her crotch even harder you do what my man Valentin does in minute 3:05 with the next girl.